Is it really the nature of women we dislike, or is it a human phenomenon

[Anonymous 0]

@ Wes

because our inherent drive is to spread our seed around

WOW! From where did you get this great information? Is it the result of you own studies?
I think not. It seems that it is not even the result of studying your own body. These are the results of studies made by the so called experts which studied the behavioral of stone age men and project this to the modern world man.

I heard this so often. Do you know what it meantime sounds too me?
All men are rapist, ALL, there is no exception and here is the evidence it is inherent to men.
Why did you mention the nature of women? Are there not on this planet to bear children instead going around taking a man’s money and spread false accusations?

I am telling you what. I don’t need to spread nothing to nobody. I am a Homo Sapiens Sapiens and not a Troglodyte.

I have known many men who simply wanted to subjugate me, even destroy or kill me, just    to reassure their own status.

How many of this men were blue pillars driven insane by there psychopathic wifes ? I guess all of them.
I know this guys. They have always something to prove because at home they have to shut up, standing henpecked.In my life some of them talked to me and told me that I am not like them, a real man, because I am not married and I first have to prove that I am able to father a child before I am at their level.What a crap.
Do you know what I thought when they talking to me in this way? Instead of giving me instructions, you should better care for your house bitch, I guess she is right now on the c~~~ carrousel.
Some of them I meet a few years later, divorced. Not a single word about marriage and children.

[Anonymous 42]

Agreed! The mighty oak tree has risen from the field, and now “towers”ha ha, over the grass and saplings, It’s our duty to keep this young tree alive, trimming, watering, and keeping the surrounding area cleared. We’ll be long gone before this tree has grown to it’s fullest potential. We do this because we realize, we are the only connection to past, a past when men ruled from their proper position, and not being trampled under the hooves of feminism, and yes, it will become much worse (destruction) before MANkind recovers his natural position, on top, over, above, and supreme in his relationship regarding all women.

How’s that for a chauvinistic pig? oink,,,,,, oink oink,,,,,,oink……

[Anonymous 42]

I am not married and I first have to prove that I am able to father a child before I am at there level.What a crap

 

Their “level” is tantamount to riding a horse from underneath, they’re being showered with kicks and mud and don’t know it, it’s always been that way, they know no difference! We have learned it is safer to walk, than be in such a destructive position, beneath a woman….

[Anonymous 0]

Right, their level not there Level…I corrected it….always writing it wrong, not my mothers tongue …hehe.

[…Spectator 1165]

Tempered and BrianK make the most sense to me on this thread. Wes: I think it dangerous to overgeneralize about mgtow but the beauty of it is that you can say whatever you want here and all male opinions have value.

[BrainPilotParticipant 7640]

I like the analogy of the oak tree. It reminds me of something I saw somewhere a few months ago…

“The mightiest oak tree in the forrest was, once upon a time, just a tough little nut that held its ground…”

I don’t think it is the nature of women we dislike…that is, women being the women that nature designed them to be. In order for any species to survive, it must eat and it must reproduce. These things are not flexible or negotiable in the environment and no matter how successfully a species has achieved them, failure to accomplish both requirements will result in the environment selecting that species for extinction. The more successfully and reliably it can achieve those two requirements, the more successful the species will be.

In some species, every single individual in the species is responsible for a achieving both tasks. This puts a big burden onto each individual. These species survived, but haven’t advanced very far. Mushrooms, worms, some bacteria…etc are about as far as those species have come. In humans, and in all vertebrates, these tasks are separated by gender, and each gender evolves and adapts to one of these two tasks, and the species survives more reliably and advances more efficiently.

Historically, women have naturally evolved and adapted to the primary role of reproducing, and there was nothing unattractive about them when they are pursuing that role. Lately though, they’ve been convinced that our role was somehow ‘better’ and so now they all want to be men. Feminists have told them that they can and should, and they are attempting it in greater numbers, but suck at pretty badly. There are all kinds of artificial (human) interventions and societal adjustments that have been made lately to try to make it appear to as though they can, but they still suck at trying to fulfill our role.

The original nature of women, and mates and mothers, when they were actually accepting of it, was probably not so unlikeable. I could have accepted it and fulfilled the other (male) role without complaint. But this crap feminists are peddling now is a fairly tale of smoke and mirrors to the women it’s being peddled to and irritating and insulting to men. Deep down, I think we all (men and women) know this is crap. If women really believed they were equal to men at the historically male role, they wouldn’t need to be told over and over again how great they’re doing at it, or to have a cheering squad every time they accomplish something without screwing up that men have done for eons. They’d just do it.

I also think that if men really believed that women were a real rival at fulfilling our roles, more men would be taking them seriously (instead of just tolerating them) and would be openly and directly, seriously competing with them. As it is, most of us freely acknowledge among ourselves that this is bulls~~~, and in society, just try to stay out of their way so as not to trigger the bitching and moaning about how we’re keeping them down.

That they won’t ‘just do it’ (the way we have for eons) while continuously bitching about how they can do it as well as we can… is grating on my last nerve…

Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you

[Soul ManParticipant 1856]

I don’t like C~~~S…

Can’t

Understand

Normal

Thinking

It just so happens that this describes pretty much every female in western society.  Like much of modern theoretical physics I think NAWALT is possible but I have yet to see the empirical evidence of such a mythologized phenomenon.

 

HISTORY...learn from it, memorize it, DON'T repeat it...

[Anonymous 42]

BrainPilot wrote:

There are all kinds of artificial (human) interventions and societal adjustments that have been made lately to try to make it appear to as though they can, but they still suck at trying to fulfill our role. 

Like women wearing construction helmets? Like white males being portrayed as dweebs ?

New Ghost busters? Supper man was even portrayed as a dweeb. My whole world is being dweebed! It’s not that they (feminists) don’t realize we know, and we see all they have done (ruined), they just don’t care, even if it kills them!  How rational is that?

[AussieBlokeParticipant 144]

Anonymous wrote:

<Quote>It’s not that they (feminists) don’t realize we know, and we see all they have done (ruined), they just don’t care, even if it kills them! How rational is that?

This is the crux of the whole issue in my mind, any rational person would make the connection between the changes forced on western society by the Feminazis and the utter destruction of social, financial and gender cohesion, EXCEPT the c~~~s that are responsible for it!

The (Female) mind boggles!

The harder the fight the sweeter the victory

[John DoeParticipant 743]

I believe I can make this thread simpler:

Women cannot be trusted.

The men who back up their decisions politically/financially/emotionally etc. are not to be trusted.

I am perfectly able to attract a wife.  I have zero doubt.

However marriage is dead.

When you are in a relationship with a woman, you are stuck with her male friends and family.

Comraderie is dead.

I want peace and quiet so I can focus on more important things.

I am not the only one.

 

[AFTParticipant 2722]

Where to next? I wonder is it going to keep getting worse, till it fails, then resets? MGTOW truely is the best response. It’s this generation that pay the price for the feminist, Marxist corruption of the past, I don’t dislike woman, it’s just this new social order. I feel woman are just as much disatified, and victims of this as men.
Sure we pay the price with out rights being stripped, and subjugated to pay for everything. Woman pay the price with new social norms, not allowing them to develop into worthwhile human beings, the freedom and coercion to become trampy welfare hoes must effect their self image and true happiness.
I for one dislike the prevailing social structure, and see both woman and men as victims, men direct victims and women indirectly. Imagine a new social structure where rights were reversed, I wouldn’t be truely happy with a situation where I had total control over a woman by using artificially constructed social rules to dominate her. Maybe it’s just my nature but I prefer to be with someone openly and freely that wants to be with me. If it ends then we go our own way, no blackmail or extortion.
The choice today is risk everything, subjugate yourself or go your own way.
I’ve already lost on one marriage and divorce, that’s enough.

When the war cemeteries are half full of the corpses of dead conscripted women, only then will women have earned the right to speak of equality. Sidecar “A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do.” - Bob Dylan

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

Various arguments have been put forth as to how the divide between men and females will work out.

Some argue that the collapse of a cheap fuel culture, cars, automation and domestic comfort will make females more dependent on men once again and cause them to rescind their independence in favor of being taken care of. Others have argued that the collapse of the welfare state as nations are unable to meet the financial demand of supporting their females and children on the thinning tax base of productive men will drive us back to a point where we have to re-imagine our governments and strip females of the right to vote themselves cake and parties.

I am sure there are other theories as well but it seems that most of them envision a time I the future where the genders will reconcile and men and females can live in harmony again. I don’t believe that there is an impending ec line in oil production or collapse of service economies and welfare states regardless, but I RALLY don’t believe that there will be a sea change in human nature that makes men docile or females loyal.

What I see is a worst case scenario where the values of men and females continue to diverge as the social barriers that held our behaviors in alignment with each other continue to come down. Females will get more entitled and more inclined to practice hypergamy and men will get more selfish and less willing to contribute to society until such a time where we either have a White Knight vs. MGTOW war (as female proxies move to seize resources and enforced labor from MGTOW) or where female behavior literally blows up in their faces and men of all stripes simply stop caring about them.

Then we’ll have a collapse of the social order and we’ll probably go back to a point where females are a liability… at best no more valuable than a working automobile or functioning technology of any sort.

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