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Eric Lauder 2 years, 6 months ago.
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is it possible for this to change? That is if later on down the road the same man increases his social status and wealth will a woman’s hyprgamous nature trump her initial decision?
I think the answer you’re getting is that hypergamy will prevail. And that’s not a good thing if you’re the guy.
Order the good wine
In either case, both are no place for any man with a shred of self respect to willingly remain in. All this demoralization just for the potential prospect of her pussy?
My inner feeling for all of those years during my public life…
And it broke the c~~~s’ hearts.
“How can you be so bitter?”
No, I am just plain honest and with clear values!
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I assumed this was because a woman can NEVER admit to making a mistake of any kind.
Same basic women behavior at work. They can never admit that they are wrong…
To her friend: “He thinks he can buy or impress me with his money!”
And then her friend gives you “the eye”…
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
“How can you be so bitter?”
I got this one recently too. I laughed when she asked this.
My answer: Because of c~~~s like you!
Fuck bitches... literally and metaphorically
Anonymous13The thing is since I took the red pill, I don’t give a flying f~~~ wether she’s wet for me or I’m in the friend zone.
I’m walking away.
FOREVER.
All her moods, zones and BULLS~~~ dramas are a complete non issue.
She’s rendered powerless.
When you’re MGTOW.
Women always try to recruit a wallet, before the wall.
Its funny how men are talking more about friend zone on the internet, and what women response is, “we get friend zone too.” What a stupid response by them. Always the victim never the suspect. Even when its obvious.
Shit Tested, Cunt Approved.
women response is, “we get friend zone too.”
Yes women get friend zoned but I bet it’s because they hit the wall, are ugly or weigh more than the man.
Feminism isn't about equality with men, it's about leverage over men.
I think you can get out
I agree with that but it’s not sincere. You can get out of the friendzone based on other unrelated factors …. like anything from business success to her limited options, to when she hits the wall.
I once got out of the zone simply by paying attention to other women instead, but in that case, the friendzone was just a s~~~ test of a sort.
Just time ( with no action from you ) can get you out of the friendzone. This has happened to me too. A woman who kept me at arms length 15 years ago, suddenly started calling me “handsome” which is something she never said in all the years I knew her. Now her eggs are drying up and she’s reflecting back on every guy who was ever interested and she wants me now?
No.
I know what “friendzone” really means. And if she wasn’t interested during her best 10 years, then I definitely won’t be interested during her worst 40.
The friendzone is permanent like being gay is permanent. I insist on it. A gay man doesn’t get to flip a coin to decide a woman is suddenly f~~~able now. Attraction is not a choice, so even though a woman thinks she can change her mind about it, and you’re out of the friendzone now…. why would any guy WANT to be?
Once chance. Per chick. Per lifetime. No exceptions.
Women shouldn’t be lying to men and saying “I just want to be friends” when they really mean “I am not sexually attracted to you”. Allowing them to change her mind about it ( when she already made up her mind and can’t change it anyway ) is playing by her stupid rules.
The “friendzone” is bulls~~~ in the first place. As far as women are concerned, there are TWO kinds of men in the world. Men she will f~~~, and men she will NOT f~~~.
Sex is the entire biological point between men and women. “Friends” is not, and dogs are “man’s best friend” for a reason.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.I know what “friendzone” really means. And if she wasn’t interested during her best 10 years, then I definitely won’t be interested during her worst 40.
If I can’t have her at her best, then why in the hell would I want her at her worst?
Men age like wine
Women age like milk
Fuck bitches... literally and metaphorically
Is exile to the “Friend Zone” permanent?
I hope so. It’s safer than the ‘child support’ zone.
If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.
I agree with that but it’s not sincere.
I still disagree. I think people change…if you as a guy get your s~~~ together, and I’m not even talking on a strictly financial or physical level, but get your f~~~ing head straight, it goes a long way. If you act like a desperate gutless blue pill cuck bitch you’ll get friend zoned over and over and over and the most you’ll ever be for a woman is a wallet, if you stop and actually act like a man you’ll get more female attention. When I look back at past interactions I know I’ve gotten friend zoned before because of how I acted, not because I was broke or ugly. I don’t think its impossible for a woman to change her mind about liking you if you’ve actually changed. If the only thing that has changed about you is your income and/or her hitting the wall hard…then yeah…its not sincere and its pretty transparent what is going on there.
To be fair the same thing happens to girls. What do you think happens when a chubby loses 50lbs and starts dressing differently than tie dye hippy t-shirts and baggy jeans? You think guys are gonna say hey you used to be chubby…gtfo…or you think guys are going to say damn…she got hot, I’d hit that.
Regardless though…it really doesn’t matter because if some chick friend zoned you and/or tried to make you an orbiter in the past one chance per chick per lifetime still applies and she already blew hers.
Anonymous3I usually say I dont need anymore friends. the friend zone is a toxic area. you become the guy she tells all the problems shes having with her most recent boyfriend. F~~~ THAT
The friendzone is permanent like being gay is permanent. I insist on it.
I always said: “It’s either love at first sight, or no love at all”.
“At first sight”, meaning “first encounter”. If she has “to decide” for too long if you are “this and that” and “good enough” or even ask her hive about you… Then you know that she has LOGICAL REASONS to “love you”.
Chad usually gets instant access to her pussy. Anything else is not biological, has nothing to do with attraction and is therefore worthless!
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Anonymous42“Is exile to the “Friend Zone” permanent?”
Is cement and water permanent?
Friend zones are reserved parking for idiots while others use the drive-thru and get their oil changed!
Friend zones are reserved parking for idiots while others use the drive-thru and get their oil changed!
Thank God I got out of the parking lot 20 years ago! HA HA
Friend zones are like a Forex or CFD trade.
You open the position and if it’s not going anywhere you try get out without loss…
Waiting for 3 confirmation points and then you are sure to see where it’s going…
And I always has a tight “stop loss” set…
Lose 20 to 30 pips and get out… Never more…
But once you see that with women you always go long in a “short” bearish market.
No winning.
Marriage: Dealing with 1:100000 leverage…
No winning.
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I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Women do not put men in the “friend zone”. Men put THEMSELVES there.
Let’s be honest with ourselves. The friend zone occurs when a man wants to have sex with a woman who does not want to have sex with him and instead of taking the “no” (whether the no is implicit or explicit, he knows it ain’t happening), he PRETENDS to act like her friend in order to be able to continue taking shots.
Not only is he going to continue taking shots, but he’s going to EXPEND HIS TIME, EFFORT and RESOURCES to convince her to f~~~ him. He’s going to act cool, wave his wallet around, try to be nice, defend her from other guys… whatever he thinks will get those pants off her.
And what does SHE do? She just sits there and SOAKS IT UP. His attention, his money, his bitter tears, his begging and pleading… they’re like honey to her.
So who is the guilty party? Who is the party actively attempting to deceive? Who is the party pretending to be one thing while secretly being another in an attempt to get the other to give up the goods?
Gentlemen, here is how you avoid the “friend zone”:
1) Make NO EFFORT to engage with women.
2) If a woman approaches you, treat her like you would a man.
3) If she takes her clothes off and jumps on your dick, go ahead and f~~~ her if you want (and are willing to endure the consequences)
4) At the FIRST SIGN of any disinterest, dealing, mind gaming, teasing, negotiating or dominating behavior… anything that isn’t her taking her clothes off and jumping on your dick… GET UP AND LEAVE.
5) Never look back.Voila. No friend zone. If you don’t create it, it doesn’t exist.
Everything else is self-delusional horse s~~~. Talking about a woman’s motivations. Hah. We all know their motivations. They want protection, provision, consequence free pleasure and authority over everything without any responsibility.
Write that down and the next time you think to ask a question about whether some unicorn you’re hopelessly stupid over will ever let you f~~~ her, just read it to yourself.
Yeah, I used to get friend-zoned back in the day…now I never even talk to nor have seen any of them in a long time. Well, there was ONE I saw today but I just ignored her. Blue-pill SIMP me would have immediately went over and talked to her and IDK, maybe tried again to get another shot but luckily that sumbitch is dead and ain’t ever coming back. I don’t honestly know if a man could ever get out of the friend zone because I have no experience(whenever I got friendzoned I usually just lost interest soon after and GTFOT) but at this point what does it even matter?
I, Lelouch Vi Britannia, command you, all of you, to Go Your Own Way!!
1) Make NO EFFORT to engage with women.
2) If a woman approaches you, treat her like you would a man.
3) If she takes her clothes off and jumps on your dick, go ahead and f~~~ her if you want (and are willing to endure the consequences)
4) At the FIRST SIGN of any disinterest, dealing, mind gaming, teasing, negotiating or dominating behavior… anything that isn’t her taking her clothes off and jumping on your dick… GET UP AND LEAVE.
5) Never look back.Voila. No friend zone. If you don’t create it, it doesn’t exist.
I always had a very short “timer” on that. Meaning a few encounters over a few days and if her sympathy would not “move” my indifference kicked it.
But there are these women that have seen you give them an inch and secretly they want a mile. They tease you all the time, shower you with praise and “keep you hanging on” that way.
They keep the illusion inside of you alive. Just like a moving price line in an active market. And every time you try to “move in” she has a f~~~ed up excuse for blocking you off.
And then it becomes an act of discipline for a man to get out.
Sometimes women “keep you warm” by behaving “unicorn style”, to make you fall in love because they know you will stick around and keep doing favors for them.
After all, “capable” craftsmen can do “favors” for women that would normally come in at a very high hourly rate.
In practice: She wiggles her ass around, establishes repeated physical contact, bumbing it into you, touching your thighs… Until you finished all of her computer repairs, bought all accessories for her, lent her some money, drove her everywhere…
And then she is “too tired” and needs sleep… “Better if you go home now”…
Bingo. User c~~~.
Then it’s time to run and get out. If she loves you, “too tired” is no excuse. That is the maneuver to get you out of the house…
I always did “half-favors” (always by her wish, never to press myself on her), the typical things you can’t refuse… And never put in any real expensive “core” work.
If something needed fixing, I put it into “the near future”, pretending to need “extensive preparations”…
With logical excuses of just “forgetting”… And to see if her next “contact effort” would be based an “seeing me” (love) or if she only called me to “continue work”…
“Get out” by telling her: “Not today, maybe next week” Give them the same medicine that they give us: “Oh I am too tired”…
And then if she calls again for you to “fulfill her order” (!) you know that you were smart enough not to jump like her trained dog.
And in my case, I saw too often:
Some other orbiter came and did all the work for snowflake… She was only able to exploit me for the initial “Take a look”.
She only committed “advice theft” on her part.
Active damage control.
And s~~~ talking me behind my back only triggered my indifference and made the hive see that I only function on an hourly rate.
“Oh, he has such a bad personality…!”
“Lazy, undisciplined” and all the s~~~ you will hear about you for not letting them take advantage of you. (sometimes years later these stories will reach you as a shaming attempt)
As an entrepreneur you have to be immune to female shaming or go bankrupt.
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
Is this the friends with benefits zone? The only one that makes sense to me…
Why be friends with women anyway and why pussy beg?If you fall down 7 times, get up 8
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