Is Calling A Slut A Slut Shaming or Fact?

[Soldier-MedicParticipant 2566]

First I want to say that I am not a English major nor do I do a lot of writing to earn my bread and butter.  There has been recently posts that question the ‘language’ in which we comment or discuss the activities of women, especially as directed at men.  The use of ‘shaming language’ by MGTOWs, and the possibility that it delegitimizes the discussion as we are using the same verbal tactics that are being used by the fairer sex.

If we examine the verbal tactics of women, they are pointed at getting us back to the alter….I mean plantation.  And if we examine the verbal tactics of the MGHOW, they are about refusing the yoke, and enslavement to another adult that is perfectly capable of taking care of herself.

Is it shaming language if it is true, and is it true if it is shaming language?  Words have power to persuade and to liberate.  Examining the definition of a word can answer the question of your own legitimacy let alone the legitimacy of those that would hold the whip.

If we are engaging in the same behavior as them, doesn’t it make us no better than them?  I believe that this is the point that some of us are trying to make.

A good point, but is it a valid point?

Recently I posted

Misogyny – dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against women.

Dislike – How is it, that in the process of seeing women’s behavior for what it really is, that a MGTOW will not dislike women?  However, many MGTOW still engage in sexual relationships.  So I believe the mindset that MGTOW have in common is distrust.  Invalid

Contempt – beneath consideration.  What consideration will you give a person that has the power, and could whimsically exercise the power to destroy your life?  The answer is a lot.  Invalid.

Prejudice – preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual experience.  All too untrue.  Actual experience is what MGTOW have based their decisions on.  Invalid.

If we take the inverse

Misandry – dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against men.

Dislike – Anecdotally, we can see that the behavior of women against men, can lead men to believe that women, many women, actively dislike men. – Valid

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Contempt – Beneath consideration.  To be honest, women have considered men for eons, mostly to part a man from his resources – Invalid

Prejudice – preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual experience.  I can’t lay claim to being able to ‘get in to a woman’s skin’ and speak the truth of her experience.  However, statistically the claims of feminists about the “Patriarchy” and our “Misogyny” and the abuse and dominance (financial, physical, emotional, social) by men are either outright lies or the ravings of a lunatic. – Valid.

Slut – a woman that has many sexual partners. – Is calling a slut a slut, shaming language or just a statement of the facts?

What could be said is that MGTOW aren’t misogynists.  We are human beings that are refusing the yoke, no matter how gently applied, or how demanding the woman.  We are saying no to domestication and enslavement.  We are also refusing to accept the cognitive dissonance that is modern feminism.  The unreality that a slut walk (lower case intentional) is somehow empowering.  The unreality that women are underpaid, oppressed, and are lacking in opportunity.  The unreality that men are the author of all of today’s social and economic ills.  Where is the shame or hypocrisy in this?

Women that want to domesticate men may or may not necessarily be misandrists.  I don’t like having to work for a living either.  But you don’t hear MGTOWs telling someone to “Woman up” and stop reading fashion magazines and watching soap operas, and get to the alter, kitchen, or bedroom.  Again, where is the shame or hypocrisy in this?

Am I rambling her or am I making a point?

"I asked you a question. I didn't ask you to repeat what the voices in you head are telling you" ~ Me. ........Yes I'm still angry.

[WolfParticipant 890]

Soldier-Medic wrote:

Slut – a woman that has many sexual partners. – Is calling a slut a slut, shaming language or just a statement of the facts?

Definitions are very subjective. Like many things in life, what is real doesn’t really matter; rather, it’s what is perceived. The term “slut” is a negative term to many, regardless of what the dictionary says.

Some will define it as a female having many sexual partners.

Some will define it as a female dressing promiscuously.

Some will say it’s a female who has sex without emotional investment.

Prostitutes typically meet all three of these criteria, and they do it for money. Also known as a whore.

I think a lot of MGTOW deems women as sluts because they meet all the various definitions. They ride the c~~~ carousel during their youth and have many partners. They dress promiscuously in order to attract the c~~~. They enter relationships without emotional investment – just viewing the man as a utility. And marriage is nothing more than legal prostitution.

So yes, IMO, women are sluts.

Soldier-Medic wrote:

What could be said is that MGTOW aren’t misogynists.  We are human beings that are refusing the yoke, no matter how gently applied, or how demanding the woman.  We are saying no to domestication and enslavement.  We are also refusing to accept the cognitive dissonance that is modern feminism.

This hits the nail on the head for me. I think women are sluts, but I don’t hate them. I would love to be with a NAWALT and live with her in a society that is not gynocentric with male destructive laws, but that is a pipe dream. Therefore, I simply have to go my own way.

[Oaken1Participant 67]

a slut f~~~s everybody

a bitch f~~~s everybody but you

 

 

did she give you some pussy or not?

[JstAntherGuyParticipant 10]

I think both

It’s true that a slut is a slut. It’s just the definition of the work. A man can also  be a slut. feminist would say there is less social stigma regarding a man being called a slut as opposed to a woman. That is true from one point of view. Men don’t hold sluts in high regard as valuable mates. They don’t want the woman that everyone else has f~~~ed. So that is something that is undesirable to be for men. Biologically, women are conditioned to be more picky about whom they sleep with due to their reproductive roles. Society further reinforces this. It causes confusion within sexually liberated women. Women often want men with the more assertive, more dominate, more sexually aggressive personalities. And a man like that has probably gotten around as well. Thus being a man slut is not as undesirable for a woman. But women regularly shame other women. so it becomes a perfect tool for them to use against women they dislike. I hear women harp on sluts far more than any man, so I am not sure how a slut walk is supposed to reclaim the term.

So while I do feel that it is a fact that a slut is a slut, there is no need to go around just calling sluts out, for no reason, or as emotional response to something that was said. I have never been a slut shamer. I would argue that society needs sluts – the poor man’s whores if you will. I would agree with the statement that slut shaming (or any form of shaming or name calling) can delegitimatize whatever topic is at hand.

 

[Mango IngawayParticipant 2264]

Sluts are easy sex for those who want easy sex.
Other than that, their vaginas are of no use to me, so I don’t give a flying f~~~ about what they do with it.
It just annoys me when total sluts act like prude angels, though.

It is a common failing of childhood to think that if one makes a hero out of a demon the demon will be satisfied.

[uchibenkeiParticipant 7965]

women call other women “slut” more than anybody else.  I think men do it to warn other men not to marry the girl because you might end up raising another man’s child but also to say you could f~~~ her easy.  like telling another guy there’s a sale on barbecues or something.  get the pussy on discount because she’s a slut.  the intention wasn’t to shame the woman.  shaming is why women call other women slut so they assume that’s our reason too.  they’re wrong.

I bathe in the tears of single moms.

[Anonymous 12]

In today’s society we are not allowed to call anything what it is anymore and the powers that be will even change the meaning of words to suit their agenda. The way it is going in the decades to come a Slut will come to mean something akin to Virgin and Virgins will be considered greedy for not sharing their bodies.

[DurdenParticipant 1051]

It is a fact someone who sleeps around is a slut. Is this wrong? That is up to individual deciding on their opinion. It does correlate to higher rates of infidelity  and other traits that are looked down upon for in both a mother and long time partner. This is fact and if a female who is a slut refuses to believe this well she is just being an idiot.

Is it bad for society is often the greater question. It is for the vast majority because women are not inclined to take or forced to take responsibility for their actions.

It's only after we've lost everything that we're free to do anything

[Soldier-MedicParticipant 2566]

Guys I feel as though the point that I am trying to make is this.

Is our dissection of hypergamous articles and behavior, shaming language?  If so, does this make it hypocritical?

"I asked you a question. I didn't ask you to repeat what the voices in you head are telling you" ~ Me. ........Yes I'm still angry.

[Elgos_GrimParticipant 254]

I don’t believe in ‘shaming language’, if they feel shame when beeing called out on their behaviour they cry ‘slut shaming’ and go on ‘slut walks’ to attempt to justify to themselves what even they know is wrong.

In fact, I encourage everyone to call sluts sluts and if they claim you are ‘shaming’ them, then you know they are STD ridden cum buckets, if they attempts to justify it then they are proud of it. Either way – best to steer clear, lest you be pushed back by the tremendous force generated when they hit the wall!

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