Introduction/Breaking up with girlfriend

[MeisterParticipant 2093]

El Duderino wrote:

That would have been a good way to go, but a bit too late for me.

If she really is in bad health then not even becoming a loser might’ve worked.

Again:
Get the dogs!
Now!

Seriously!
I’m really concerned about the dogs right now.

Google: Terrence Popp
His wife murdered the dog!

And brace yourself.
She already threatened suicide and made false claims about financial support.
A s~~~storm is heading your way!

Monk

[,Participant 1301]

the dogs will be a tool to use against your decision.
she will “need” the dogs for her healing.

No contact.
Block her number.

yep, sounds tough but worse would be a hanging possible interaction.

with joy/without hate

[MeisterParticipant 2093]

, wrote:

the dogs will be a tool to use against your decision.
she will “need” the dogs for her healing.

No contact.
Block her number.

yep, sounds tough but worse would be a hanging possible interaction.

No.

She wanted him to pick up the dogs and that’s what he should do.

No talking.
Run in, grab the dogs, run out.
Make sure nobody is following you!

With inanimate objects I’d say f~~~ it.
But not pets.
Rescue them!

No moe texting.
She’ll go bats~~~ crazy.
Hide!

Monk

[,Participant 1301]

Meister wrote:

No.

With inanimate objects I’d say f~~~ it.
But not pets.
Rescue them!

Understand the passion, but why run the risk of police getting involved?
This action is dangerous.

imo Women will harm children before pets. And I’m perhaps callous, but humans before animals even human women before animals.
Give her the consolation prizes as parting gifts. Enjoy the freedoms.

with joy/without hate

[El DuderinoParticipant 38]

, wrote:

the dogs will be a tool to use against your decision.
she will “need” the dogs for her healing.

No contact.
Block her number.

yep, sounds tough but worse would be a hanging possible interaction.

Meister wrote:

MRHOW wrote:

the dogs will be a tool to use against your decision.
she will “need” the dogs for her healing.

No contact.
Block her number.

yep, sounds tough but worse would be a hanging possible interaction.

No.

She wanted him to pick up the dogs and that’s what he should do.

No talking.
Run in, grab the dogs, run out.
Make sure nobody is following you!

With inanimate objects I’d say f~~~ it.
But not pets.
Rescue them!

No moe texting.
She’ll go bats~~~ crazy.
Hide!

I can’t take the dogs where I live- and even though they were “ours,” one was her mother’s dog and the other was one she took from a friend –

Yeah, the more I think about it, the more I think I need to change my number and wait a while before being selective about whom I give it to.

Meister wrote:

El Duderino wrote:

That would have been a good way to go, but a bit too late for me.

If she really is in bad health then not even becoming a loser might’ve worked.

Again:
Get the dogs!
Now!

Seriously!
I’m really concerned about the dogs right now.

Google: Terrence Popp
His wife murdered the dog!

And brace yourself.
She already threatened suicide and made false claims about financial support.
A s~~~storm is heading your way!

She lied about needing the surgery as an excuse to why she would want to hand over her house and car.

As much as I want to, there is nothing I can do about the dogs. And, I cannot risk going back to her house – period.

I sense a s~~~storm, and the more I think about it – I’m going to just have to bite the bullet and cut out all mutual acquaintances for the foreseeable future.

"The Dude abides." ~ The Dude

[El DuderinoParticipant 38]

Understand the passion, but why run the risk of police getting involved?
This action is dangerous.

Exactly, I can’t do it. Not even to get them to a friend’s home- which would be my only and best option.

"The Dude abides." ~ The Dude

[Mike-PoffwithPofParticipant 126]

I wish you well man. It’s a good move and you’ve made yourself a future of hope and happiness.

[The Manipulated ManParticipant 1856]

Her bad health, suicidal tendency, career/ money issues, and apologies are all out of the Woman’s Nature “Playbook.”

Everything that she is doing to you now, I have experienced myself towards the end of my multiple RelationS~~~s.

In the past, my belief in Unicorns delayed me on the MGTOW Road. Actually, it was mostly my addiction to a woman’s pheromones.

And it is interesting how many woman professed to me that I was their “Soul Mate” and they could not live without me.

You may be surprised to find out how many men have experienced the same behavior and heard the same words.

A few Old Timers gave me some advice in my youth about the dangers of Women and breaking up with them, which I did not appreciate at that time:

They claimed that RelationS~~~s were like a “Frying Pan.” So, I was instructed to stay single and avoid the “Frying Pan.”

Later, they discussed how to jump out of the “Frying Pan,” see poster below.

Maybe, you can do a better job than me at following their advice.

“You must jump high and handsome to avoid the flames”

What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?

[ExecrationParticipant 1496]

I dislike inconsistencies, especially when behaviour seems incomprehensible based on the information provided .I have to agree somewhat with blades initial comment.

El duderino,

I Haven’t written you of as an asshole yet, but please explain:

If somone doest fight or generally have problems for 9.5 years I dont see logically how they make compromises in a relationship where ,someone does not fight or generally have problems with another person.Compromise does not exist absent of conflict.Compromise exists as a result of mutual concession . Compromise is not individual.

If your not fighting your not put into a situation where your compromiseing. I smell a possible lie.

Second, you state you became aware of red pill ideology 3 years ago but made sure that at the beggining of you 9.5 year residence with your ex you didnt put your name on anything. By nature I’m distrustful and everything you said is contradictory .You dont spend 9.5 years generally conflict free and arrive at the conclusions most do here.

[ExecrationParticipant 1496]

You might have left something out and I’m giving you the benefit of the doubt, but your explanation didnt leave room for a logical analysis to remain doubtless however I’m open to being completely wrong.

[MeisterParticipant 2093]

Execration wrote:

You dont spend 9.5 years generally conflict free and arrive at the conclusions most do here.

Actually, I did.
My girlfriends never wronged me in any severe way, nor was there much conflict. They just behaved like women are supposed to behave.

I just understood female psychology and came to the conclusion that dealing with women on an intimate level is pointless.

I also observed what happened to other men and that was all I needed to know.

In fact I consider this the proper way to go on your own way.

A lot of the stuff I read on here seems to be written by guys who are not going there own way, but are merely frustrated by there own misunderstanding of mating interactions. Even some of the terminology like “NAWALT” shows astonishing ignorance.

The OP on the other hand, after a ltr without much conflict, seems to have come to the same conclusion as me.

Monk

[El DuderinoParticipant 38]

Execration wrote:

I dislike inconsistencies, especially when behaviour seems incomprehensible based on the information provided .I have to agree somewhat with blades initial comment.

El duderino,

I Haven’t written you of as an asshole yet, but please explain:

If somone doest fight or generally have problems for 9.5 years I dont see logically how they make compromises in a relationship where ,someone does not fight or generally have problems with another person.Compromise does not exist absent of conflict.Compromise exists as a result of mutual concession . Compromise is not individual.

If your not fighting your not put into a situation where your compromiseing. I smell a possible lie.

Maybe my post wasn’t clear enough – but I wrote “compromises” in my OP with quotation marks because men don’t really compromises in relationships in the true sense of the word. I’ve seen the topic discussed a lot – to compromise in a relationship means doing what the woman wants, or having conflict. I’m pretty laid back guy -and we didn’t have a lot of conflict because I wasn’t willing to fight over much – and my ex never pushed for marriage or kids.

Execration wrote:

Second, you state you became aware of red pill ideology 3 years ago but made sure that at the beggining of you 9.5 year residence with your ex you didnt put your name on anything. By nature I’m distrustful and everything you said is contradictory .You dont spend 9.5 years generally conflict free and arrive at the conclusions most do here.

In my OP, I wrote:

I was introduced to Red Pill ideas about 3 years ago, and realized that I have always had a natural inclination towards a red pill/MGTOW mindset.So, even as a blue pill guy, I did some good things to help protect myself in the relationship that I think will minimize the fallout from the break up:

I hadn’t heard about the “red pill,” MRA, or MGTOW. I didn’t know about many things- like Briffault’s law – But, I knew I didn’t want kids and I had seen enough divorce to know marriage was a bad idea.

As far as moving into her house rather than having her move into mine- I had a situation with a roommate where the roommate was living in my house and I couldn’t get rid of her because of “toothbrush laws” – I didn’t want to be in that situation again – with a roommate or with a girlfriend.

"The Dude abides." ~ The Dude

[MeisterParticipant 2093]

El Duderino wrote:

Execration wrote:

I dislike inconsistencies, especially when behaviour seems incomprehensible based on the information provided .I have to agree somewhat with blades initial comment.

El duderino,

I Haven’t written you of as an asshole yet, but please explain:

If somone doest fight or generally have problems for 9.5 years I dont see logically how they make compromises in a relationship where ,someone does not fight or generally have problems with another person.Compromise does not exist absent of conflict.Compromise exists as a result of mutual concession . Compromise is not individual.

If your not fighting your not put into a situation where your compromiseing. I smell a possible lie.

Maybe my post wasn’t clear enough – but I wrote “compromises” in my OP with quotation marks because men don’t really compromises in relationships in the true sense of the word. I’ve seen the topic discussed a lot – to compromise in a relationship means doing what the woman wants, or having conflict. I’m pretty laid back guy -and we didn’t have a lot of conflict because I wasn’t willing to fight over much – and my ex never pushed for marriage or kids.

Execration wrote:

Second, you state you became aware of red pill ideology 3 years ago but made sure that at the beggining of you 9.5 year residence with your ex you didnt put your name on anything. By nature I’m distrustful and everything you said is contradictory .You dont spend 9.5 years generally conflict free and arrive at the conclusions most do here.

In my OP, I wrote:

I was introduced to Red Pill ideas about 3 years ago, and realized that I have always had a natural inclination towards a red pill/MGTOW mindset.So, even as a blue pill guy, I did some good things to help protect myself in the relationship that I think will minimize the fallout from the break up:

I hadn’t heard about the “red pill,” MRA, or MGTOW. I didn’t know about many things- like Briffault’s law – But, I knew I didn’t want kids and I had seen enough divorce to know marriage was a bad idea.

As far as moving into her house rather than having her move into mine- I had a situation with a roommate where the roommate was living in my house and I couldn’t get rid of her because of “toothbrush laws” – I didn’t want to be in that situation again – with a roommate or with a girlfriend.

Now I know what Briffault’s law is, too.
Reading this mgtow stuff is sometimes like watching cavemen discover fire. You’d think this stuff is pretty much common knowledge.

I heard about “mgtow” for the first time about a year ago and realized that that’s what I’ve been doing for many, many years.

This forum is good because some people on here made some horrible mistakes because for some reason they were completely oblivious to what relationships with women are all about.

Monk

[The Manipulated ManParticipant 1856]

El Duderino wrote:

…….to compromise in a relationship means doing what the woman wants…….

Women’s Requests are Unrelenting and Shameless.

When a man gives into a woman’s request, you will NEVER hear her say:

(Thank you very much)…..

This is enough. I don’t need anything more.
And I will not need anything more for quite some time.

Thank you for granting my request, I will retreat now.

Thank you for granting my request, I will stop beseeching now.

What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?

[BadgerParticipant 2277]

The Manipulated Man wrote:

And it is interesting how many woman professed to me that I was their “Soul Mate” and they could not live without me.

That is until they decide you are their “ASSoul Mate” and they don’t want to live with you anymore.

[The SavedParticipant 101]

IMHO: Forget the whole siuation and leave it behind you (including the dogs).

Easier said than done – I can honestly understand that given the circumstances.

I think you handled the threat of suicide well.

Stay away, change your number and go no contact. She’s no longer your problem anymore.

You have got to be resilient.

"A man's feelings are inconvenient to a woman's needs".

[bstoffParticipant 4865]

I think you’ve done everything in the least-damaging way for both yourself and even your ex. Playing the suicide card is an ugly tool manipulators use to emotionally blackmail you, and possibly others around her. My first wife pulled that on me and, I found out later, my kids, as well. It tugged at my heartstrings and I know it dramatically changed the way my kids saw me.
As inhumane as this sounds, even if she does go through with a suicide or an attempt; she is doing this to herself. Unless you are going out of your way and really, deliberately, torturing her emotionally, you are not at fault for what she does. In all likelihood, she is using this ploy to make you come back to her.
I also suspected that, right before the breakup, when she was trying so hard to get you to have sex with her, she may have already been wise to your plans and she may have been trying to lure you into staying with a better-than-usual sexual performance, or possibly a surprise pregnancy. That’s just my take on it, based on your information given. Please keep us posted with how things go in the future. It’s not over by a longshot, and this may drag out for a year or more before she leaves you alone.
I agree that you should change your number and lay low for a long time. Do not discuss anything with mutual friends, and don’t believe half of what you hear from any of them.
Good luck

[NeroParticipant 1466]

Apologize to no one for your actions. You are living your life as a man going his own way. Most of us wish we were more like you. I married young, had kids, was very blue pill, and was trapped in a life that I didn’t have the guts to walk away from years ago, even though I knew it would have been better for me. Fear, Obligation, and Guilt (FOG) is a very powerful social weapon that got installed in men’s brains since childhood. Give zero f~~~s and live life for you, just like everyone else is doing, except men.

[Mister StealthParticipant 362]

Glad you are doing well brother.

After years of programming it is difficult to come to your own conclusions of how to end a relationship (in person, a note, via phone, just leave, etc).
At the end of the day you made wise decisions and have started your own journey of deciding what way is best for you.

From a professional stand point where I have had to respond to calls of suicidal exs, I always pass on that these person is trying to manipulate you to have contact and feel bad for her. (The suicidal comments are a last ditch effort to distract from her own behaviour and try and make themselves the victim and in need of that pre-programmed white knight to come and save her – don’t look back, keep walking, and enjoy life)

Steel sharpens steel

[ExecrationParticipant 1496]

Apologies op, I jumped the gun and was incorrect in my assumptions.Welcome !

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