In Google We Trust: Information Brokers & Your Digital Fingerprint

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  • #119318
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    Ancientwisdom
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    Just watched the preview of the documenterary In Google We Trust. Anyone seen it? Ill watch it eventually, but Im not in the mood for any more negative stimulus at this hour, however sobering it might be.

    The preview reminded me of a 60 Minutes episode a couple of years ago about Information Brokers: a multi billion dollar industry in which agencies sell personal internet history to current or future employers via your digital finger print. It was really eye opening. Eapecially the fact that they have access to your searches via all of the free apps on your phone. You know, the ones that say, Allows access to your:

    Photos
    GPS (knowing your exact location)
    Measages
    Emails
    Calls
    Searches

    Etc, etc…

    Anyones thoughts on this? Its rather f~~~ing disgusting and concerning in my mind.

    Resident cynic.

    #119323
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    Anonymous
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    In late nineties this s~~~ was still in it’s infancy and as an employer of some 50-55 employees I was offered similar crap by several employment agencies for a nice fat fee. I just refused flat f~~~ing out.
    Any business or company that uses that s~~~ is more interested in prying into other peoples business than necessary. It is an invasion of privacy regardless what risks you may encounter. The employer or his menagerial staff should have enough competence and intelligence to deal with staff or recruits, after all that is what they get paid for and not to dick around on the internet.
    Just my 20 cents worth.

    additional: . . lets not forget that the same scum is gleaning all the information or as much as they can about your business at the same time and selling it on to others.

    #119327
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    RoyDal
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    Just watched the preview of the documenterary In Google We Trust. Anyone seen it?

    No, but thanks to your tip I plan to!

    In late nineties this s~~~ was still in it’s infancy and as an employer of some 50-55 employees I was offered similar crap by several employment agencies for a nice fat fee. I just refused flat f~~~ing out.

    Good for you! I have been employed by companies that were not so nearly ethical as yourself. They did teach me to play my cards close to the vest.

    Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

    #119329
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    RoyDal
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    In Google We Trust – Monday 9 September 2013
    http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/stories/2013/09/09/3842009.htm
    I haven’t watched it either, yet. Here is a 43-minute hour show with the same title, and I do plan to watch it when my circumstances permit, and that will be soon.
    Thanks for the tip!

    Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

    #119330
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    Anonymous
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    Good for you! I have been employed by companies that were not so nearly ethical as yourself. They did teach me to play my cards close to the vest.

    The more litigious the society the more likely law will try and infringe on individuals rights. Its a never ending f~~~ing tread mill.

    #119335
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    Ancientwisdom
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    I havent watched it yet, but I will. The eye opener for me as I mentioned was the 60 Minutes episode on Information Brokers via cell phone app “permissions”.

    I dont give a flying F~~~ what the “agreement said” in the app on my cell phone. Somethings are simply an invasion of privacy, regardless or not if its in the fine print.

    Its an eye opener for sure. Its also insane how much “tracking” is going on and how its such a big business. The ramifications of this are even clearer as you see PC agenda being pushed –

    “Oh I see you posted online that transgendered men who voluntarily have their penises CHOPPED off are unfavorable to you as opposed to ‘normal’ men”.

    Ya, thanks but no thanks. Keeping track of me in this political climate is looking uglier by the day.

    Resident cynic.

    #119345
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    Applejack
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    I work in IT and I’ve always know how important it was to keep your information private. Information is VERY valuable to the people around you. More and more nowadays, people want to know everything there is about you. Strangers, employers, large corporations, and the government. The best way to avoid it is to make sure to have an account, but make sure it can’t be traced back to you in any way.

    Personally, I use a virtually untraceable VPN for all my connections. I have dozens of different Google accounts, all with fake information about me. I have a “real” account on only a few websites. I know who I am and that’s all that matters. You can’t trace any of my accounts back to my real identity except for one or two…..and those are small websites that the government and corporations wouldn’t be interested in anyway. I pay for anything online using a prepaid credit card and use an alias even when having things shipped to me. No company knows what I buy, what websites I visit, or any personal information about me. I’m like a ghost. If you Google my name, I don’t personally come up. I have no personal Facebook or social media accounts.

    #119352
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    Ancientwisdom
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    Personally, I use a virtually untraceable VPN for all my connections. I have dozens of different Google accounts, all with fake information about me.

    I have read about these but can you expand on how this works? A couple of questions, for example:

    -lets say that for a website such as mgtow I have an email linked to it that doesnt have my name or personal info. In what way does a VPN serve as a further buffer? I mean, barring that Im applying for a CIA job or the like, who is going to discover my alias email account?

    -VPN’s seem rather transparent – they are clearly used for the purpose of un-tracability. . Why would anyone trust a site that willingly help you set one up?

    Any info you have on this is GREATLY appreciated. Those are just questions that come to mind immediately. Im sure you have more info and I would love to hear it.

    Resident cynic.

    #119366
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    Applejack
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    @ancientwisdom: Sure. A VPN is a service that routes your internet traffic through their servers. There are many different VPN providers out there. Most keep logs. Don’t bother with these. With logs, the government or corporations can obtain records of your activities if they want to. This is especially important if you’re doing anything shady online (such as pirating movies, music, software, etc.). The main reason a VPN service doesn’t keep logs is cost. These logs contain all the activity of all their members, which can take up to several hundred gigabytes per second! Without an absolutely massive server, it wouldn’t be possible to keep logs. However, some countries actually require by law that a VPN keep logs. You need to stay away from VPN’s that operate in these countries.

    The VPN service that I use accepts payment via MoneyPak, BitCoin, prepaid credit card, and other anonymous payment methods. When using these payment methods, the VPN won’t even know who you are.

    What you say is true. If you use a VPN but then aren’t careful and slip some of your personal information into your account, it’s basically useless. For example, if you’re registered on a torrent website and give your first and last name along with your city, it’s pretty easy to figure out who you are.

    You need to understand that with your IP address, anyone can find out who you are. By court order, KeyMaster would be forced to turn over your IP address to law enforcement, who would then obtain your identity from your ISP (Internet Service Provider). Companies like Google use tracking tools that track your IP and use cookies to serve you advertisements and spy on your internet activity. Without a VPN, they could obtain your IP address and use it to identify you personally. Just because you don’t GIVE that information to Google doesn’t mean they can’t get your IP address and your identity.

    Now the government and corporations want us all to believe that all these services on the internet are NOT connected, and that they are all concerned about our privacy. However one thing remains constant. Your ISP. You can’t hide who you are from your ISP. Even if you give them a fake name and use a prepaid credit card to pay your bill each month, they still know where you live. Where are you getting service? Even if you use a mobile hotspot, they can triangulate your position even if you never gave your ISP your address. The ONLY way to remain anonymous online is to make sure that ALL of your internet traffic is routed through a VPN. That way the ONLY thing that your ISP sees is that you’re connecting to a VPN. Then they go knocking on the VPN’s door demanding logs of what you’ve been doing online, but the VPN doesn’t store any logs! You’re home free.

    If you’re interested in getting a VPN, check out these services:

    https://torrentfreak.com/anonymous-vpn-service-provider-review-2015-150228/

    #119397
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    Untamed
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    The worst part about all that are blank stares you get when you tell all that to one of those drones they got managing our files and data at the guberment level. I was arguing those facts with a labor representative and she looked at me as if I as telling her Martians had just landed on the roof and she tried to tell me they don’t sell our private information. What world do they live in?

    Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
    Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
    #GenderSegragationNow!

    #119403
    Soldier-Medic
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    @applejack Thanks for the info. Link saved. Gonna do my own due diligence when I get the chance.

    "I asked you a question. I didn't ask you to repeat what the voices in you head are telling you" ~ Me. ........Yes I'm still angry.

    #119381
    Dark Kenshi
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    @ancientwisdom: Sure. A VPN is a service that routes your internet traffic through their servers. There are many different VPN providers out there. Most keep logs. Don’t bother with these. With logs, the government or corporations can obtain records of your activities if they want to. This is especially important if you’re doing anything shady online (such as pirating movies, music, software, etc.). The main reason a VPN service doesn’t keep logs is cost. These logs contain all the activity of all their members, which can take up to several hundred gigabytes per second! Without an absolutely massive server, it wouldn’t be possible to keep logs. However, some countries actually require by law that a VPN keep logs. You need to stay away from VPN’s that operate in these countries.
    The VPN service that I use accepts payment via MoneyPak, BitCoin, prepaid credit card, and other anonymous payment methods. When using these payment methods, the VPN won’t even know who you are.
    What you say is true. If you use a VPN but then aren’t careful and slip some of your personal information into your account, it’s basically useless. For example, if you’re registered on a torrent website and give your first and last name along with your city, it’s pretty easy to figure out who you are.
    You need to understand that with your IP address, anyone can find out who you are. By court order, KeyMaster would be forced to turn over your IP address to law enforcement, who would then obtain your identity from your ISP (Internet Service Provider). Companies like Google use tracking tools that track your IP and use cookies to serve you advertisements and spy on your internet activity. Without a VPN, they could obtain your IP address and use it to identify you personally. Just because you don’t GIVE that information to Google doesn’t mean they can’t get your IP address and your identity.
    Now the government and corporations want us all to believe that all these services on the internet are NOT connected, and that they are all concerned about our privacy. However one thing remains constant. Your ISP. You can’t hide who you are from your ISP. Even if you give them a fake name and use a prepaid credit card to pay your bill each month, they still know where you live. Where are you getting service? Even if you use a mobile hotspot, they can triangulate your position even if you never gave your ISP your address. The ONLY way to remain anonymous online is to make sure that ALL of your internet traffic is routed through a VPN. That way the ONLY thing that your ISP sees is that you’re connecting to a VPN. Then they go knocking on the VPN’s door demanding logs of what you’ve been doing online, but the VPN doesn’t store any logs! You’re home free.
    If you’re interested in getting a VPN, check out these services:
    https://torrentfreak.com/anonymous-vpn-service-provider-review-2015-150228/

    Sound advice… Thanks, Applejack!

    "Young was I once, I walked alone, and bewildered seemed in the way; then I found me another and rich I thought me, for man is the joy of man." Odin, Hàvamàl, stanza 47.

    #119547
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    Megatoad69
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    Really, why bother trying to hide any more, they will get what they want, they are in no rush.

    One way,…. or another, They’re gonna getchya, getchya, getchya, getchya, getchya, getchya, getchya,

    If you have money, they will know
    A pedophile, they will know
    A terrorist, they will know.
    They probably know how many hours/week I jack off to porn.

    Be good people, but fight the good fight!

    You can't reason with unreasonable, there; women, figured out, there is nothing to reason.

    #119554
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    Ancientwisdom
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    One way,…. or another, They’re gonna getchya, getchya, getchya, getchya, getchya, getchya, getchya,

    ? damn she was a pretty sweet piece of ass back in the day, eh?

    Resident cynic.

    #119557
    Dark Kenshi
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    Nope, not this motherf~~~er here… And the motherf~~~er next to me, and the one next to him, and the other… Off ya go, c~~~!

    "Young was I once, I walked alone, and bewildered seemed in the way; then I found me another and rich I thought me, for man is the joy of man." Odin, Hàvamàl, stanza 47.

    #119564
    Ancientwisdom
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    Nope, not this motherf~~~er here… And the motherf~~~er next to me, and the one next to him, and the other… Off ya go, c~~~!

    (?).

    Resident cynic.

    #119565
    Dark Kenshi
    Dark Kenshi
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    Nope, not this motherf~~~er here… And the motherf~~~er next to me, and the one next to him, and the other… Off ya go, c~~~!

    (?).

    “One way,…. or another, They’re gonna getchya, getchya, getchya, getchya, getchya, getchya, getchya,”

    This, bro… I forgot to include the citation on my previous comment… Sorry!

    "Young was I once, I walked alone, and bewildered seemed in the way; then I found me another and rich I thought me, for man is the joy of man." Odin, Hàvamàl, stanza 47.

    #119587
    Megatoad69
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    If you use the internet, they probably know more about you than you know about you already.

    And Ancientwisdom, I’d still do Blondie even now.

    You can't reason with unreasonable, there; women, figured out, there is nothing to reason.

    #119596
    Ancientwisdom
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    #119606
    Just a Man
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    Companies have always sold our data. Now that people are aware of that fact, they are suddenly becoming “hacked”. It is just business as usual, the companies selling your data, but they claim “hack” because lets face it, most people are not educated enough to know the difference. Like third world countries and even fourth world people’s have the knowledge, capability, infrastructure, etc. to even CONSIDER hacking a computer powerhouse such as Sony or Apple. But the “masses are asses’ so we get to hear these lies now.
    I really like the VPN idea, but cannot afford one ATM, but it is on the list of MANDATORY’s. Thanks AJ.

    Philosophy, the female repellent

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