I'm too tired to ask anymore.

[Anonymous 42]

BrainPilot wrote:

If she is still in this relationship with you, and not complaining, then I’d say it’s because she’s getting her needs met. Trust me on this (or ask any mgtow here)

lets just call it what it truly is in the light of truth, NEGLECT, NEGLIGENCE, F~~~ING DEGRADING! That’s some of the poison when I speak of when mentioning venomous women. Brain Pilot is one of the most articulate members we have and his message rings true like a fine brass bell. Those of you younger members should really tune in on Brain Pilot when he speaks, he pulls the mind slivers of haze and deception from anyone’s Brain. When it comes to Brain Piloting this man is flying ACE! He splits arrows in the bulls eye’s target of truth! 3,4,5 arrows split down the middle!

BrainPilot wrote:

when women are not getting their needs met in a relationship, something changes. And it generally does not take two f*cking years. They’ll make a decision in less than two minutes!

Sometimes they’ve already made their decision and no telling how long the deception has been going on, she has transformed you from husband to husband orbiter/wealth provider, if it were me (but it’s not) I would have made my exit the moment I felt the slightest rejection, I have a custom hair trigger filed down on my ejection seat, otherwise lets call it the closest thing to ZERO F~~~ING TOLERANCE!

BrainPilot wrote:

As I’ve written elsewhere, I personally deserve the right to abandon any relationship I choose, for any reason I choose, or for no reason at all… just because I feel like it. That’s how much I matter. That’s how much my needs matter. That’s how much my cost-benefit analysis of a situation matters.

That’s a real nice hair trigger ejection seat you have there Brain (fighter ace) Pilot! You’re one of the best at emptying all 9 yards from 6 browning machine guns!

pZ1$ wrote:

It’s much, much longer than two years. I’ve just been posting here for two years. It’s much, much, much longer.

Rolling Tin Fist wrote:

I’m with Keymaster on this one.

You don’t negotiate with terrorists. If I marry you in good faith, and you then cut me off pu$$y for the foreseeable future, with zero recourse, that’s terrorism.

It’s like being trapped in a terrorist camp with a ticket in your pocket to a calm and peaceful country offering you citizenship in a land where you roam green meadows far away from the razor wire, dust, and the terror of being slaughtered by the terrorists.

Hey PZ, when are you gonna get it into your head that she belongs to someone or something else, she doesn’t belong to you, the marriage is NULL & VOID, long past time to drop that s~~~ and simply abandon it for what it is and move on, walk through the gate to the beautiful green pastures of complete and total sovereignty, you’re living in a WW-I trench filled with the stench of emotional death!

Blue pill you stay in the MATRIX:

Red Pill you go free in a new world:

[Tired Old ManParticipant 19]

I have been in a like situation for years. About a year ago I found my solution in depression medication. I killed my sexual appetite so now I don’t give a s~~~ either. We have kids together and I stay for them. I will be 55 in a few months and really do not want to go into retirement living at the city mission because I am broke. I don’t make enough to set money back for an escape so taking the depression meds (I do not have depression I take them because they are hardon killers) was the best answer for me. Once I killed my sex drive I stopped hating her so much and no longer cared if I got any pussy, hers or any other woman’s.

Take it from a guy in exactly the same situation as yours, the depression meds will end all of your sex/libido problems!

[pZ1$Participant 110]

Tired Old Man wrote:

I have been in a like situation for years. About a year ago I found my solution in depression medication. I killed my sexual appetite so now I don’t give a s~~~ either. We have kids together and I stay for them. I will be 55 in a few months and really do not want to go into retirement living at the city mission because I am broke. I don’t make enough to set money back for an escape so taking the depression meds (I do not have depression I take them because they are hardon killers) was the best answer for me. Once I killed my sex drive I stopped hating her so much and no longer cared if I got any pussy, hers or any other woman’s.

Take it from a guy in exactly the same situation as yours, the depression meds will end all of your sex/libido problems!

Hi Tired Old Man,
Thanks for the note. I have taken anti depressants. They never took away my libido. So it looks like I am out of luck. Besides, I’m not sure I would want that to happen. Maybe I should.

[Ain’t No RomeoParticipant 119]

OP, get a motorcycle. Ride it to the gym.

When the other skanks start noticing you and wanting you, your wife will too.

I’m not telling you to cheat. Just make yourself worth competing fof.

[pZ1$Participant 110]

Ain’t No Romeo wrote:

OP, get a motorcycle. Ride it to the gym.

When the other skanks start noticing you and wanting you, your wife will too.

I’m not telling you to cheat. Just make yourself worth competing fof.

That worked big time when I was dating my wife. Another woman was really attracted to me and she felt threatened. She said “don’t go out, you look too good!” Of course, she said that in front of my mother, so it may have been my wife’s bulls~~~ way of ingratiating herself in front of my mother. But her coworker I DID WANT ME, so maybe it did open her eyes. Of course, that was 20 years ago. I think I still look okay. I’m just not as young as I was then. I’m really liking the idea of getting out of this marriage. After all, it’s not a marriage. But I have been saying this for years now. And other MTOWS have let it be known that I should be ashamed of myself. That’s cool. I probably should.

[Y_Participant 4591]

I don’t think we can do any more – it is up to you to pull yourself out now. I hope there are people you can talk to and a good lawyer you can get advice from.
Peace.

[learningParticipant 115]

pZ1$, the SAME thing happened to me about four years ago. At first, I started making an issue about it and one day just came out and said it (basically accused her of withholding sex, and said that it was not fair and demanded an answer). Through the conversation, I asked her what do you think is a normal frequency of sex in a normal marriage according to you. Her answer: I dont know, once a month?

That’s when I realised this that there was no hope. I mean she probably believes it to be even less and just said once a month so it wont sound that infrequent. At that point, i also felt pretty stupid and idiotic to be standing there and begging for sex. And that’s when I just stopped asking. After that, I have NEVER approached her for sex. After a while, she started approaching at certain intervals (you guessed it – apprx less than once a month). And the sex was dry and boring. Once in a while, at birthdays or holidays, I would enjoy proper involved sex (again initiated by her).

My question to you is, why are you even expecting sex from her? Just forget about it. Even if you do get it sometimes, how good do you think it will be? You are better off jerking off to a nice video of your choice (or go visit an escort or something) – you will find that much more fulfilling.

So what I’m saying is if you withdraw, then withdraw because you actually don’t want her anymore and not just because you think withdrawing will make her want you again.

As to her infidelity, I don’t know but what others have pointed out is true – if she isn’t complaining anymore – then that is certainly wierd. Maybe once you accept that things are never really going to work out, then you will be thankful that she isnt complaining and just focus on building your own life without her.

[pZ1$Participant 110]

learning wrote:

pZ1$, the SAME thing happened to me about four years ago. At first, I started making an issue about it and one day just came out and said it (basically accused her of withholding sex, and said that it was not fair and demanded an answer). Through the conversation, I asked her what do you think is a normal frequency of sex in a normal marriage according to you. Her answer: I dont know, once a month?

That’s when I realised this that there was no hope. I mean she probably believes it to be even less and just said once a month so it wont sound that infrequent. At that point, i also felt pretty stupid and idiotic to be standing there and begging for sex. And that’s when I just stopped asking. After that, I have NEVER approached her for sex. After a while, she started approaching at certain intervals (you guessed it – apprx less than once a month). And the sex was dry and boring. Once in a while, at birthdays or holidays, I would enjoy proper involved sex (again initiated by her).

My question to you is, why are you even expecting sex from her? Just forget about it. Even if you do get it sometimes, how good do you think it will be? You are better off jerking off to a nice video of your choice (or go visit an escort or something) – you will find that much more fulfilling.

So what I’m saying is if you withdraw, then withdraw because you actually don’t want her anymore and not just because you think withdrawing will make her want you again.

As to her infidelity, I don’t know but what others have pointed out is true – if she isn’t complaining anymore – then that is certainly wierd. Maybe once you accept that things are never really going to work out, then you will be thankful that she isnt complaining and just focus on building your own life without her.

Learning my wife has never, ever initiated sex in our long marriage, never! On average, our sex was once ever 3 months, on average. Sometimes less, fewer times more. There is no way in hell my wife will never want to have sex. There is no way in hell she will want to be intimate. It’s over between us. The crazy thing is, it’s been over since we got married! I see that now. My wife has issues about control. I think she just wanted to get married for the sake of getting married. I am no longer expecting anything from her. I did not save money to get out on my own. I really should have saved money. This is the year I get out.

[mgtow_85Participant 752]

“This is the year I get out.”
LOL!!! Too funny.

I recall you saying the same S~~~ two years ago.
“I’m unhappy. My wife is mean to me. I can’t deal with her anymore. This is the year I get out!”

Then one year ago.
“Um…it’s complicated. But THIS is the year I get out! I MEAN IT this time!!!”

Six months ago.

“I’m getting a job, so I’m definitely gonna dump her RIGHT NOW. By the end of the week, we’re toast.”

Most of us know you’re full of s~~~ by now. Your b~~~~ have been in your wife’s purse too long.
Some slaves PREFER the plantation. You are one of them. You got your first whiff of freedom and it feels “scary” to you. You refuse to leave your wife but you keep asking for “advice” every goddamn week. Advice that you have no intention on following through on.

I don’t even know why you’re on this site these days. Maybe you just like to whine and ask for attention. You will never be a MGTOW in my book.
But keep taking those antidepressants. Maybe they’ll actually be able to do you some good someday.

[pZ1$Participant 110]

mgtow_85 wrote:

“This is the year I get out.”
LOL!!! Too funny.

I recall you saying the same S~~~ two years ago.
“I’m unhappy. My wife is mean to me. I can’t deal with her anymore. This is the year I get out!”

Then one year ago.
“Um…it’s complicated. But THIS is the year I get out! I MEAN IT this time!!!”

Six months ago.

“I’m getting a job, so I’m definitely gonna dump her RIGHT NOW. By the end of the week, we’re toast.”

Most of us know you’re full of s~~~ by now. Your b~~~~ have been in your wife’s purse too long.
Some slaves PREFER the plantation. You are one of them. You got your first whiff of freedom and it feels “scary” to you. You refuse to leave your wife but you keep asking for “advice” every goddamn week. Advice that you have no intention on following through on.

I don’t even know why you’re on this site these days. Maybe you just like to whine and ask for attention. You will never be a MGTOW in my book.
But keep taking those antidepressants. Maybe they’ll actually be able to do you some good someday.

okay

[Won'tGetFooledAgainParticipant 3293]

I thank god I split with my ex wife at 40, at least I have enough years to build up my finances again. You guys in your 50’s looking at getting divorced you have my sympathy as you will be looking at a life of having no money, not being to own a property and never being able to retire.

Once a woman has married a wallet and got the children of course she no longer wants to have sex with you. You are no more than a meal ticket and a utility, she only had sex with you to trap you, she never wanted to have sex with you because you made her ‘gina tingle. Why do you think you always have to instigate sex, it is because she doesn’t actually want to have sex with you as she thinks you are pathetic.

My wife got to the stage where she would do anything to get out of sex with me, they know that if they reject you enough you will be too tired to ask anymore as you already know what the answer is. First off they will start off with the “I am too tired” or “I am not feeling well”. Eventually it will be the “Stop pawing me, I can’t just turn it on you know” or “Try spending all day with the children and then see how in the mood you are”. They will start to move away from you if you even touch them in bed or will go to bed early and pretend to be asleep when you come in. Eventually they will just tell you that “I am just not interested in sex anymore”, what they are really saying is not interested in sex with you, they still want to be f~~~ed hard against a wall by some random chad though.

She is now dreaming of getting back on the carousel, trust me she will do things with a thug with neck tattoos that she only met that evening that she would never do with you.

For women, everything eventually boils down to Alpha Fucks, Beta Bucks.

[pZ1$Participant 110]

Won'tGetFooledAgain wrote:

She is now dreaming of getting back on the carousel, trust me she will do things with a thug with neck tattoos that she only met that evening that she would never do with you.

Hey man, I realize this is true….

[PuniShredderParticipant 2268]

You need to get off the f~~~ing pills dude. They are escapism and actually keep you from getting p~~~ed off enough to actually do something about your situation. Seriously. I have a buddy who did the same thing and I could never understand it. Good or bad, we FEEL for a reason brother! Those signals tell us what we really should do and anti-depressives just keep you in the boiling water without a care in the world!! Sure they also stop weak people from eating a 9mm…

Anyway, stop paying the bills. The divorce is going to ruin you anyway. Sell everything you can, horde the cash. Keep bill money and intercept all collectors phone calls. At 3 months or so disappear one day. Hopefully to a different city. File for legal separation and leave the divorce papers on the table. Get a small cheap place, job and start your new life using MGTOW principals focused on YOU. I suggest you give her the house, the car, all furniture, everything. Less she can go after you for.

Be professional be polite but always have a plan to kill everyone you meet.

[pZ1$Participant 110]

PuniShredder wrote:

You need to get off the f~~~ing pills dude. They are escapism and actually keep you from getting p~~~ed off enough to actually do something about your situation. Seriously. I have a buddy who did the same thing and I could never understand it. Good or bad, we FEEL for a reason brother! Those signals tell us what we really should do and anti-depressives just keep you in the boiling water without a care in the world!! Sure they also stop weak people from eating a 9mm…

Anyway, stop paying the bills. The divorce is going to ruin you anyway. Sell everything you can, horde the cash. Keep bill money and intercept all collectors phone calls. At 3 months or so disappear one day. Hopefully to a different city. File for legal separation and leave the divorce papers on the table. Get a small cheap place, job and start your new life using MGTOW principals focused on YOU. I suggest you give her the house, the car, all furniture, everything. Less she can go after you for.

Thanks for the post. However, I do not take any medications.

[mgtow_85Participant 752]

You mentioned in an earlier post that you take antidepressants. I’m sure that qualifies as a “medication”.

Do us a favor. Stop wasting our time and asking for advice that you never have any intention of listening to. Shouldn’t you be bending to the latest whims and demands of your wife that you love too much to ever be able to leave?

What a troll.

[pZ1$Participant 110]

mgtow_85 wrote:

You mentioned in an earlier post that you take antidepressants. I’m sure that qualifies as a “medication”.

Do us a favor. Stop wasting our time and asking for advice that you never have any intention of listening to. Shouldn’t you be bending to the latest whims and demands of your wife that you love too much to ever be able to leave?

What a troll.

I took antidepressants a few years ago. I no longer take them.

[AutoliteParticipant]

They’re now divorced, but I had a buddy who’s wife denied him sex for many consecutive years. He got to a point where he decided to get what he could outside of the marriage.

She pointed the finger and accused him of cheating. It was all just a game to her to force him to initiate the big D while trying to make it look like it was all his fault.

These f~~~ing c~~~s have no soul…

[Clint EastwoodParticipant 323]

My advice (based on continuing experience) would be to start divorce proceedings at once. Give it a month or two, so she knows it’s really happening, then she’ll be scraping at your door like an oestrogen dripping pussy viper.

Happened to me but I resisted. Gave in just the once. Christ it was like f~~~ing a rabid whore. Thought my bell end was gonna fall off. After that, it kind of lost it’s appeal and have been happily choking the chicken since. 🙂

P.S. She still hammers on the door of the caravan at night, like an extra from Shaun of the Dead.

Stay vigilant. They're everywhere.

[pZ1$Participant 110]

Clint Eastwood wrote:

My advice (based on continuing experience) would be to start divorce proceedings at once. Give it a month or two, so she knows it’s really happening, then she’ll be scraping at your door like an oestrogen dripping pussy viper.

Happened to me but I resisted. Gave in just the once. Christ it was like f~~~ing a rabid whore. Thought my bell end was gonna fall off. After that, it kind of lost it’s appeal and have been happily choking the chicken since. ?

P.S. She still hammers on the door of the caravan at night, like an extra from Shaun of the Dead.

Isn’t that crazy how women do that? I have no doubt my W would do the same. 🙁

[Clint EastwoodParticipant 323]

pZ1$ wrote:

Dead Inside wrote:

My advice (based on continuing experience) would be to start divorce proceedings at once. Give it a month or two, so she knows it’s really happening, then she’ll be scraping at your door like an oestrogen dripping pussy viper.

Happened to me but I resisted. Gave in just the once. Christ it was like f~~~ing a rabid whore. Thought my bell end was gonna fall off. After that, it kind of lost it’s appeal and have been happily choking the chicken since.

P.S. She still hammers on the door of the caravan at night, like an extra from Shaun of the Dead.

Isn’t that crazy how women do that? I have no doubt my W would do the same.

Yep, they seem to be naturally programed to provide whatever’s required when the chips are down. They can go from genuinely not interested (not even pretending to be), to it’s the only thing on their mind, like they need it to exist or something.

Stay vigilant. They're everywhere.

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