Home › Forums › Marriage & Divorce › I'm too tired to ask anymore.
Tagged: husband, marriage, sex, sexless marriage
This topic contains 60 replies, has 29 voices, and was last updated by Crowbar 2 years, 11 months ago.
- AuthorPosts
I live in a marriage that is void of regular healthy sex. I have been trying to get it fixed on both sides, Even went for MC. At this point I am too tired to ask for it anymore. The w seems content not having it and in fact sees nothing wrong with her not wanting it. I know for a fact she enjoys it after she lets me prepare her. Any suggestions? I am at a loss.
OK since you asked…
(hello and welcome by the way)
You used the word “ask”. But the first rule of business and sales is: “if you give someone a chance to say “no”, they usually will”. So remove the question mark.
Never “ask” a woman for anything. It will be a command. She will not allow you to leave the house with a single drop of semen in your body …. because if you’re not dumping it at home, or you’re dumping it someplace else. You don’t actually have to act on this, you are just going to establish a new parameter.
She sees nothing wrong with it.
Would she see something wrong with it if you withheld a wedding from her?She sees nothing wrong with withholding sex from you, then she won’t have a problem with you getting it elsewhere. A simple flip of the script is often all that’s required. Why should you have to “prepare” her? Vagina is not YOUR reward. Dick is HERS to earn.
/audio/women-who-use-sex-as-a-bargaining-tool/
Forget “marriage counselling”.
You will not be interested in “working to fix her problem”.Remove the question mark. Don’t ask. TELL her how it’s going to be from now on. Until then, no “gee honey you look nice today”. No interest. A nice friendly sexual indifference goes a long way. Stop for a beer or 3 on the way home. Or go see a movie. “you’ll be home late”. Tell her to start dinner without you, and not to wait up. Let her wonder where you are. You get the idea.
All of this is just what I would do. Take it if it’s valuable. Throw it away if it’s not.
And Merry Christmas.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Key master,
Thank you for the response. However, she is the one who comes home late from work since she usually works nights.
I have tried showing indifference towards our sexual relationship. Believe me, she doesn’t notice because she doesn’t care.
But all in all you make good suggestions, and I will take what you write into account.
I thank you.
And Merry Christmas.
Thank you for the response. However, she is the one who comes home late from work since she usually works nights.
I have tried showing indifference towards our sexual relationship. Believe me, she doesn’t notice because she doesn’t care.And the most likely explanation is, that her sexual needs already get satisfied elsewhere. And you should do the same. Engage a professional.
Anonymous23Exactly what TS said. That’s the first thought that came into my head. In ALL my previous relationships where the woman cheated, they acted like how your wife is now.
Pretty much a money back guarantee here…when your sex life goes from 100 to 0, it’s virtually a 100% that she’s getting hers on the side.
“If daddy ain’t gettin’ it at home then someone else is hittin’ it!”
Translation=your marriage is f~~~ed
HISTORY...learn from it, memorize it, DON'T repeat it...Thank you for the response. However, she is the one who comes home late from work.
I see. Well that’s something else. And I’m inclined to agree with the others.
You are just going have to be a little more CREATIVE.
Let her continue. Let her cheat. Show now objection. Pretend it’s not even an issue. Make her cheat. Give her every reason to. Prepare for it. Get it on film (optional). Get a lawyer, give him the film and file for divorce based-on: “Gross infidelity” and file a civil suit AGAINST THE OTHER GUY for Alienation of Affection. A good lawyer will easily win both cases for you.
You pay her NOTHING.
And HE will pay YOU.Roll that case into a custody hearing etc….
And flatten your wife in legal fees.
You keep your children, wife gets NOTHING.Then you get to raise your children as you see fit AND you get a nice settlement to spend on yourself. Hell, why not buy yourself a hot sports car……. and you can now look around for a younger, tighter, hotter more reasonable model to assist with your stress level.
Man wins.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.But the marriage has always been this way. She never was interested in sex after we got married. Only before and even then a little. It did not go from 100% to 0%. All through my years of marriage I always had to go without except when she said yes.
So she put out just to get you to sign the contract?
And then stopped after the wedding?Well, fortunately you live in a world where you don’t have to put up with it – or go without. Tiger Woods wife didn’t get the job done either. Neither did SuperModel Elizabeth Hurley. So Hugh Grant went and got a $60 blow job someplace else.
What the f~~~ are men doing MARRYING these unfulfilling women in the first place?
That’s what women do. Instead of being worth marrying, they force their husbands to get it elsewhere, and they would rather you PAY THEM TO F~~~ OFF. She’s not interested in being your wife, man. She’s more interested in collecting lifetime alimony after you’ve had your 10 year anniversary. Talk to a divorce lawyer TODAY. If you do it fast enough, you will only have to pay 1.5 days alimony for every 1 day married. He will explain all of it to you.
If you’re going to pay a woman to NOT f~~~ you…… you may as well start paying other women who WILL.
And Happy New Year.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.When My Ex Wife and I were dating, the Sex was endless and I mean ENDLESS!. Two solid years go by into the Marriage?, it all ended and turned into a goddamn chore, Or having her open Her legs with a disgusted face and saying “Here, clean up after your finished”.
She might as well of detached the f~~~ing thing, and let Me go f~~~ it in the shower or something. That’s how withdrawn She was after awhile.
Anytime I hear “Working Late” that’s a huge red flag. Let Me tell you about Women, they hate working late, and if they do?, it’s because they have a” C~~~ Interest” at work or somewhere. Bulls~~~, She ain’t working late. My Ex Wife told Me that saaaaame story, only to find out later She was meeting up with Her lover in expensive hotels, getting $200 a night room services.
No my friend, Send her f~~~ing ass PACKING!. You deserve to get laid, get pussy and everything Sex wise headed your way. And if they don’t wanna give it up?, tell them ALOHA!, as in GOODBYE!. I seriously f~~~ing hate when Women do that s~~~, when you literally have to wash dishes, clean the house, build a new Bathroom and Sink(only for them to f~~~ it up later on with all their s~~~) or get a better job just to “Earn the Pussy”, oh man that boils my blood.
Let her continue. Let her cheat. Show now objection. Pretend it’s not even an issue. Make her cheat. Give her every reason to. Prepare for it. Get it on film (optional). Get a lawyer, give him the film and file for divorce based-on: “Gross infidelity”
TRUTH!
"If You have the Tooth of a Whale, You must have the Whale's Jaw to hold it". (i.e. One Must have the right qualifications for leadership) -Hawaiian Proverb
Bottom line…Marriage is not a Guarantee for Unlimited “GGG” Pussy. “Good, Giving, and Game.”
It’s terrible Pz1 has to experience the stereotypical “Wife Not F~~~ing Me But Working Late” Banana in the Tailpipe Bullshiet.
Unfortunately, we all have at some point have fallen for the Banana in the Tailpipe.
Pull that Bitch out and haul the Fruck out that F~~~less Mirage.
Marriage is not a Guarantee for Unlimited “GGG” Pussy.
In some jurisdictions it was. Meaning regular coitus, housekeeping and such being mandatory marital obligations for the wife, for which the husband even could sue her at court. Without coitus no children and with no children a marriage was considered failed and void.
Of course, feminism changed that for the western world. Still asking, why men stopped marrying?
Banana in the tailpipe! I completely forgot that scene. It’s a classic:
Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?
It absolutely amazes me how many married men are on this forum. I wish that there were resources like thai around when things started to go for s~~~ for my marriage. Ten years ago I looked everywhere on the net that I could think of the get some ideas of where this was leading.
As soon as she starts using sex as a bargaining chip it’s almost over. Start planning for the inevitable. Walk the f~~~ away. Maybe not NOW but as soon as you can get all of your preparations done. Seriously!
Man : your wife is cheating on you, no doubt on it. Women like sex more than men.
MacOisdealbhthe sad thing is, it’s not even a bargaining chip. She just doesn’t like it and she sees nothing wrong with not wanting or liking it. Sure, when I give her you know what she likes it. But she won’t even admit that. I’m tired of asking anymore. I doubt she’s cheating physically. Sex is painful sometimes… at least that was the excuse she used. Besides, I doubt she has the time. I have to get back on my feet financially and stop this BS. I must have a way out if need be. I don’t want that to happen but if it will at least there is a way out.
Dear pZ1$.
Sorry you are feeling sexually deprived. I am glad that you feel like you have people you can turn to in this forum; however, I encourage you not to take all these comments to heart as people are making a lot of sexist comments and assumptions about your wife’s sexual endeavors without much information. I certainly wouldn’t feel hopeful or desirous of my wife if I were reading these comments on your end.
First and foremost, you said your wife was never very sexually motivated to begin with. Some people just aren’t. You knew that going in so my question is: did you assume that would change? Most people don’t change. Also, The comforts of marriage and the monotony of routine have seemingly decreased her desire even further. This is normal.
I am left wondering some things:
1) does your wife have a negative sexual history? Do you know if she has ever been sexually assaulted or forced into sex when she was not consenting? If so, that could be why she requires so much control over when and how often she has sex. It could also impact her level of motivation.
2) What does your wife think of her body? It’s clinically proven that women with negative self-image have less body confidence and thus less desire to have sex. If body image issues are the case maybe you can help. Ask what she thinks of her body and how you can help.
3) Have you asked her what the barriers are? If she is an honest person by nature she may give you insight into what is going on for her.
4) How is your communication in general? A lot of times sexual intimacy decreases in the relationship when emotional intimacy has decreased. When did you have your last date? How often do you chat about things other than work or kids or responsibilities? How well do you talk about feelings with each other. By nature, the majority of women are emotionally driven during sex. Put emphasis on turning on what is between her ears and you may find the key to turning on what is between her legs.
5) what does she do for work? Is it a high stress job? Maybe that is why it consumes her time. Also, stress causes fatigue. Fatigue can have a severely negative impact on sexual drive.
6) Forget what some forum members are saying: you do not tell your wife that she had to have sex with you, and that won’t make her want you any more. It Would probably make her want you less, actually. Consent is always necessary. Married or not married…without consent you don’t have trust. As s~~~ty as it is that your needs aren’t being met you should be proud and honored that this woman trusted you enough to choose to spend her life with you and trusts you enough to know she can say no.
7) have you ever explained how you feel when she doesn’t have sex with you or refuses? How do you feel when she says, “ugh, let’s just get it over with.” More than just sexually frustrated, you may feel undesirable, hurt, rejected. Tell her this if you haven’t. She cannot argue with your feelings and she can’t read your mind.
Anyways, as far as dropping out of a marriage just because of lack sex seems petty, but what I’m learning (obviously the hard way) is that it’s usually not just sex that is lacking, it’s the intimacy and closeness that leads someone to want sex, that is the important issue. I’ve been reading and talking to a lot of different people on related topics and in most cases there’s a lack of romance and intimacy way before the lack of sex becomes an issue. Sex usually masks the lack of attentiveness in a couple before the sex stops. An example would be the woman gets angry because the man forgets an anniversary or other important date they fight then make up. The real reason for the tension was because of lack of thoughtfulness on the husband’s part but it was made better with make up sex. Basically a quick substitute for the lack of attention she initially wanted. Sooner or later though that substitute loses value because the person realizes their feelings weren’t valued to begin with. Anyways, moral of the story sex and intimacy are two different things but if you can balance them equally neither loses value.
The movie “The River Wild” (1994) had a scene between a mother and daughter:
Daughter: “…but I’m really sick of the whole thing. I’m sick of the whole fight. Everything has become unbelievably hard.”
Mother: “Huh? Honey, forgive me, but you don’t know what hard is. That’s because you give yourself an out. In our generation, we had no out. That was the pact of marriage. Do you think if I gave myself an out…with your father, given his orneriness and his deafness…that I wouldn’t have taken it years ago?”
That dialog struck me when I saw that otherwise mundane action/adventure film and has stayed in my mind ever since. I see it as stating marriage isn’t as convenient as basic dating, that if it isn’t working out and gets too difficult that it can just be ended quickly and cleanly; rather marriage requires work, even for those who are a “perfect match”. Too viewpoints I’ve read recently on what someone in a marriage should do when the first inkling of the thought of divorce enters his/her mind:
- Don’t let the problems get so bad that you can’t easily recognize then fix them. The problems sneak up on you and metastasize very quickly. You need to act quickly to save yourself and your relationships.
- It’s tough in life, and it’s better to go at with a partner than by yourself.
Finally, If you want support figuring out how to improve your sex life my suggestion to you is to talk to your wife. Ask questions instead of jumping to conclusions. She is the keeper of all the insight you need to resolve this.
I wish you strength and courage with communicating these issues and figuring out a way to resolve the concerns.
@augustchief said “…however, I encourage you not to take all these comments to heart as people are making a lot of sexist comments and assumptions about your wife’s sexual endeavors without much information.
@augustchief…I respect the amount of effort and sincerity you put in your response (i.e. “does your wife have a negative sexual history? Do you know if she has ever been sexually assaulted or forced into sex when she was not consenting? What does your wife think of her body?)
BUT….I’ll take being an alleged Sexist over some Pseudo-Freudian White Knight analytics any day. Fruck the Bullshiet.
Bottom Line…We just want Brother @pz1 to be OK. We’re a Red Pill Dispensary in this Muthaf~~~a. And we’re not shy about sharing our pill stash with those who like deez Bitter Muthaf~~~as. You’re not going to get any Skittles/’Taste the Rainbow’ up in here. Not even the sweet and sour Skittles.
Like Many MGTOWers here, I vociferously read EVERY INTRO….and see the same Goddamn patterns where the woman was feigning “I’m just not interested in Sex”, “I have to work late, again”. …then all of a sudden… BAM!! Hypergamic Bullshiettyness: Wifey’s been getting Nutted In by some Grandmaster Super Saiyan Asshole for the past 2 years.
Search some of the other Intros. Go ahead. Look. @Deux Ex Machina’s narrative will scare you furken’ straighter than any of those “Take the Local Bad Ass “I like Doin’ Bad ‘Dings” juvenile knucklehead to the Penitentiary Day’ TV shows. I. Will. NEVA. Get. Married. Thanks You Brother Deux. Praise be to Al-Deux.
Moral of the Story: We share our Blue Pill Massacre stories and dispense our Red Horse Pills because we would just hate to see any of our new brothers imploded by Bullshiettery.
Ignorance is not Bliss.
@ninja. That picture is so excellent. +10!!!!
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Ninja: the wife may very well have cheated (is cheating). If that’s a non-negotiable, deal-breaker for pZ, then his choice on what to do is obvious. However, if he’s willing to accept her cheating or confront her on it and get convinced that she hasn’t cheated, then he’s got some more work to do.
It’s really s~~~ty to see someone let a marriage drag on past when it’s a useless act, and then during the divorce justice is not done. So pZ needs to nip this in the bud, i.e. f~~~ing fix his life. I believe that starts with having a come-to-Jesus talk with his wife. If that doesn’t resolve his situation, then it’s time to get a lawyer. Either way, he’ll have a way forward.
- AuthorPosts
You must be logged in to reply to this topic.

921526
921524
919244
916783
915526
915524
915354
915129
914037
909862
908811
908810
908500
908465
908464
908300
907963
907895
907477
902002
901301
901106
901105
901104
901024
901017
900393
900392
900391
900390
899038
898980
896844
896798
896797
895983
895850
895848
893740
893036
891671
891670
891336
891017
890865
889894
889741
889058
888157
887960
887768
886321
886306
885519
884948
883951
881340
881339
880491
878671
878351
877678