I'm Told That I'm Negative

[dicky1992Participant 11]

Hello guys! This is my first post here. Nice to be joining you!

So since being on my journey, I’ve been told by my Dad that I’ve become very negative and that NAWALT. It’s so frustrating, he doesn’t understand that my journey has consisted of learning how corrupt the system is, to learning how courrupt many females are. He only says this because my attitude is always like “I’m never getting married.” Etc. I have to keep repeating myself that I’m not being negative, and that he doesn’t see the world through my eyes. I’m sure some of you are similar to me in this way. I’m 23y.o and even if I’m negative I have every bloody right to be.

Anyway guys got many story’s to be sharing with you so I’ll be glad to hear from you all hopefully. Also to be sharing some story’s of my own with my own experiences. 🙂

[Anonymous 42]

Welcome dicky1992, you’re not being negative the slightest! You’re merely stating the facts from a logical perspective, your father doesn’t understand that when he says NAWALT, our minds ear hears NOT ALL FIRES ARE LIKE THAT.
Reality is NEGATIVE, and we’re pretty much POSITIVE!

[Anonymous 26]

Dicky…. am old enough to be your dad! Am 45 and I have heard the same thing you’ve been told by many people many of times! Been labelled “moody” and “dark”, and all of the other labels associated with being a guy who knows what he likes and what he doesn’t like.

I would like to politely advise you to keep the friction and tension with your father to a minimum if you can (you only have one afterall). That said however, you can respectfully agree with him and keep your own thoughts to yourself.

More than likely he doesn’t understand the way women are now a days, he himself may have had it quite easy and been spared the traps and pitfalls that many of us have fallen into. This may be the fact that his relationship with your mom have been good (I don’t know, just an assumption… I could very well be wrong).

What is important is that… yes you know the system is corrupt (no one here is going to argue with you on that point), yes you know how the modern western woman is like, and yes you are decided upon never getting married…. that’s all great! But sometimes just keeping your mouth shut is sometimes the best way to keep the peace. Especially at the age your at presently, bare with it, bare with your father and in time he may very well realize it on his own how things are now a days.

Just my 2 cents on trying to be helpful.

[Elric GreenstoneParticipant 1637]

Anonymous wrote:

keep your own thoughts to yourself.

Welcome to our forum! Pull up a chair, grab a beverage out of your own fridge, and enjoy.

I’ve been here all of one month, although I’ve been moving towards being MGTOW for a very long time.

So here’s what’s amusing.

Everyone, in the past month, thinks I’m much more cheerful and optimistic most of the time.

Because I no longer feel the need to discuss my thoughts on how completely f~~~ed up women, society, and the West are with them.

I have one or two friends IRL who I’m open with. The rest . . . not so much.

I have honest conversations here. It keeps me reasonably sane.

Unfortunately, once you have taken the Red Pill, you will find that the rest of the world did not take the Red Pill with you. They are still plugged in to the Matrix, and generally wish to remain so. Your relationships with these folks will almost certainly not be improved by your sharing the truth with them. They probably don’t wish to hear it. If you stick around here long enough, you’ll learn some useful verbal j’iu jitsu to deal with blue pill / pinks / normies.

Prophets are not appreciated in their home towns. Your family will probably not be delighted with your recent revelations and self-removal from the biofeeding tube. Think of us as a collegial group with which to learn and share. Gentle hints can still be dropped to friends and family, but odds are you’re not going to convert people.

Welcome.

"You can either love women, or understand women. You can't do both. Because once you understand women, you realize that there is really nothing to love."

[TheroniusParticipant 975]

A lot of men got married and had kids in order to continue their line. A son who doesn’t want to do the husband/daddy thing doesn’t sit well with them. They often see it as ungrateful. Also, the accepted wisdom has been that men NEED a wife to live a good life, and are likely to be miserable alcoholics without the family to keep them in line.

"I am is reportedly the shortest sentence in the English language. Could it be that I do is the longest sentence?" - George Carlin

[Mr. SpockParticipant 10907]

Welcome to the forum. I am 47 years old, been divorced and wished that I had a resource like this when I was 23. There is fantastic reading on these forums and the team that maintains this site is awesome. They clearly do a thankless and tiring job.
Good Luck and I look forward to reading some of your experiences.

NAWALT?………YAWALT!

Feminism isn't about equality with men, it's about leverage over men.

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

Welcome

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

[Blue SkiesParticipant 15665]

Welcome brotha, …………..just remember that often times the truth does not sound pretty…….it’s important to accept the truth and deal with it to improve your life

your dad grew up in a different generation…….

stay true to yourself, and stay MGTOW…….
Cheers

MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.

[Biggvs_DickvsParticipant 3725]

dicky1992 wrote:

I’ve been told by my Dad that I’ve become very negative

” I applied to join the Optimists Club….. but I don’t think I’m going to get accepted.”

–Steven Wright

"Data, I would be delighted to offer any advice I can on understanding women. When I have some, I'll let you know." --Captain Picard,

[MalfunctionNeedInputParticipant 257]

You’re not negative, you’re a realist. You are able to see things as they are.

To quote Morpheus from The Matrix: “The Matrix is a system, Neo. That system is our enemy. But when you’re inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that system and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it.”

Many men don’t want to believe it is really that f~~~ed up and would rather believe the fairy tale in their mind, pretend everything is ok and life is good despite feeling otherwise. Or they cling to some other belief such as a religious one that says divorce is wrong.

The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existing. One cannot help but be in awe when he contemplates the mysteries of eternity, of life, of the marvelous structure of reality. It is enough if one tries merely to comprehend a little of this mystery every day. Never lose a holy curiosity. --Einstein

[FrankyParticipant 2338]

1-Water is wet
2-C’mon man you’re just being negative!
1-Look, if reality seems negative to you, you might want too reassess what you use that word for.(or your view on life)

Welcome!Do not dwell too long on what blue pill men have said to you, even if it’s your father.I have a similar relationship with mine too, but the thing is mine is starting to open his left eye a bit, sometimes he leans to the red pill out of curiosity.
The way i started waking him was just by living good.No need to say anything he’s smart enough to figure it out by himself.

[NotMyProblemParticipant 965]

Try this:

Instead of explaining how females are huge burdens that are no fun to be around…

Talk only about POSITIVES. Which means you will have to steer the conversation away from women.

I know you’re young but I’m sure you have some ideas on what you want to do with your life. Purge the pussy and you now have way more options, freedom, time, energy.

Tell your dad about all the cool s~~~ you’d rather spend your life doing.

It’s an interesting feeling to been given that much freedom at an early age.

You can now go do anything you put your mind to.

Not my property... Not my problem

[dicky1992Participant 11]

Hello guys!

Thank you for your replies it’s nice to hear from you all!

I’ll answer back to all of your posts shortly, in which I’ll be looking forward to. Gotta head to bed for now and get some sleep.

It might take a while due to not being able to access the site at certain times, the Internet provider I’m with blocks the sites between 21:00-05:30 UK time, due to apparently not being suitable content, it’s auto listed as hate speech.

Dicky! 🙂

[KeymasterKeymaster]

dicky1992 wrote:

, I’ve been told by my Dad that I’ve become very negative and that NAWALT

Classic shaming. Know it when you see it.,

dicky1992 wrote:

if I’m negative I have every bloody right to be.

Damn right you are. Here’s how you shatter that s~~~:

“Son, you’re so negative.”

“Hey Dad, if I observe the moon has no atmosphere, that’s not a “negative” statement. That’s the way it really IS. It’s not the way I see it…. it’s the way things actually ARE.”

“Son, not all women are like that.”

“Hey Dad, Here’s a box of hand grenades. Pick one and pull the pin!! Don’t worry. Not all grenades will explode in your face. What’s the matter?? Don’t be so negative!! Not all grenades are like that!! Why do you hate grenades so much?? Don’t be so negative!!’

For the win.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[BudtaoParticipant 293]

As a realist I hear the “You’re a Pessimist” fallacy so very, very often. To explain to these people that I am a realist and not a pessimist I use the thrice damned and over used water glass analogy(cause everyone knows it).

The Optimist will say the glass is half full.
The Pessimist will say the glass is half empty.
The Realist recognizes that he grabed the wrong sized glass, says so, and grabs a better suited size.(Although why you would bother grabbing another one in reality is anyone’s guess.)

Ehh, use it or dont, I usually just stop talking to people who use this particular Ad Hominim(I guess its essentially an Adhom, I mean being called a pessimist is usually used as a perjorative.)

Nirvanna is never having to worry about a woman ever again.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Budtao wrote:

The Optimist will say the glass is half full.
The Pessimist will say the glass is half empty.
The Realist recognizes that he grabbed the wrong sized glass……

… and the feminist will say the glass was raped.

( Oh pardon me…. I was just being “negative“. )

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[HitmanParticipant]

dicky1992 wrote:

Hello guys! This is my first post here. Nice to be joining you!

glad to have you on board ! welcome brother – man ! ..

[WallyParticipant]

Your dad may only be doing what he’s thinks is best, we know what he’s saying is wrong, but he may be coming from a different perspective. Perhaps showing him some evidence of the true state of the male/ female dynamic would change his mind.

I always remember what a three times married friend once said to me “when you get married and she has your back its the best thing in the world, unfortunately none of them ever had my back.” All women are like that manner, I simply go by my dad’s advice when he said essentially on his deathbed “don’t get married.” Listen to my dad not yours.

"what a waste of a life, to marry, give up your freedom, just for the hope of not dying alone. Don't get married Son."

[martygParticipant 103]

Your dad, all dads for that matter. We still love them. But most are total manginas, having been in mangina training for the past 30 -40+ years. They have a deep bias in favor of the status-quo.

[dicky1992Participant 11]

Bare with me, trying to figure out how to quote on here properly… sorry all.

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