I'm going to be in a relationship one of these days. HELP!

[DayrepSpectator 69]

TYE wrote:

Well considering how I’ve been emotionally f~~~ed my entire life by the women in my family, I can’t quite understand your lust for companionship. I do on the other hand know what’s its like to lust for something thats not good for you, and trust me you playing with the fire that is woman will only result in you getting burned beyond ability to heal. I say leave it alone do whatever it is you have to, and eliminate that lust you have for women. The feelings you’re having are not real they’re nothing but an illusion, and when you learn to see women as nothing but sexual objects you will realize this.

I agree with most of what you said, but why do you say that I won’t be able to heal? That means my suspicion was right, that they will come to know my buttons and can emotionally f~~~ me over and I am handicapped in this arena as a man.

[JollyMisanthropeParticipant 3356]

If you are going to be in a relationship then make sure she is the one having to keep up with trying to please you and not the other way around.

The Children of Doom... Doom's Children. They told my lord the way to the Mountain of Power. They told him to throw down his sword and return to the Earth... Ha! Time enough for the Earth in the grave.

[Puffin StuffParticipant 24979]

However much I’ve been burned, been accused of all sorts of things to the police and in family court, I would still be in a relationship if the right one came along. To me the right one has to be one I just can’t go without f~~~ing and that I can bail on immediately with no second thoughts. Women I meet who want to get married right away are out. Women who can’t support themselves are out. I don’t care much about what they think. I’m looking for a quick shag.

If I were to consider having a woman live in, the very next thought I would have is how to get her out if things went south, and they always do.

Girls with a larcenous heart are more fun and much less likely to call the cops. I know it sounds mercenary but that’s what everyone, men and women should do. A relationship is for you. Not the both of you. You are two are not one person. This is feminist malarky.

You are a person and a parasite. The parasite will not let go so easily when asked to stop the sucking.

Plan for that. If, when thinking of these plans you suspect she will get around them, run away from her, don’t walk. A good woman will deal with you treating her fairly. A good woman would never expect you to stay if she were being a psycho-bitch. Which, sadly what she will become no matter how hard you try. And it may take up to four years for her to stop being able to hide this behavior. And there are nearly no good women.

Don’t trust her. You don’t have to tell her anything you don’t want to. Never sign anything. Document everything, especially don’t ever let her receive mail at your home. The law says she can claim residence and the cops will put you out of your home.

My bottom line advice: Don’t do it. If you do, have a great time but be super careful, your sleeping with a woman. Women are dangerous aggressive animals that bite.

#icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

[Anonymous 42]

He’s off to the saloon “again”, that’s not water they serve, It’s mind blowing whiskey! The horse is going to drink from the poison watering hole, thinking it’s going to quench his thirst……

[Smitty the Great OneParticipant 1535]

OK, time for my 2 cents.

As for relationships, here goes…. whomever needs the relationship the LEAST has ALL the power. Right now YOU are needy, and women can smell that s~~~ from a country mile away. In your current mind set you are setting yourself up to get ultra mega f~~~ed. I’m talking beat to death with a 10′ steel dildo f~~~ed.Listen to yourself, all the in the box thinking. Instead of arranging it in a traditional model, go completely rogue.

I am going for a harem, not a big one, only about 3 or four in rotation.All in different cities, and different ranges, and no “need” for any of them.

Women work best when everyone is embroiled in emotions and vulnerable. They are use to living in an emotional state and are less effected by it, it’s normal to them. Men are creatures of logic, and when we are emotional, we are confused—- that’s how women get over on us. The funny part is these emotional cripples are credited with being emotional giants. Women are incredibly vulnerable to their OWN emotions, they get caught up in their own bulls~~~ as much as they come out ahead.

Every man in here is shaking their head at you all thinking the same thing, “I am disappoint son, I am disappoint”. Not to say that this can’t be going your own way, it can. The question is why would you want to open yourself up to all the bad things that will PROBABLY happen? OK, let’s just go ahead and assume, yep he’s gonna go and be stupid.

Where the f~~~ are you going to find even a manageable woman at?

How far are you going to take this?

Do you even have yourself in check?

Can you keep her in check?

Are you prepared when she asks, “Where is this relationship going”?

What do you have to lose?

What do you have to gain?

These are not minutiae, these are heavy-duty with a concrete booty questions. You better have an answer before they come up the first time. DO not kid yourself they WILL come up.Don’t be a dumb ass, you are here for a reason. I’m not telling you, NO DON’T DO IT. I’m only asking you record the whole thing so we can show others in the future. Think of it as failing it forward for all the other guys that come after you.

 

Life is too long to play by someone elses rules....

[Cipher HighwindParticipant 1144]

The fact that you mention “no fap”, that pile of pseudo-religious nonsense, indicates that you likely do not masturbate at a sufficient frequency. Once per day usually prevents thoughts of relations~~~s.

Finally, if your writing is any indication, you are too dumb to guard yourself against the machinations of females, so for that reason alone, I would advise against playing with that kind of fire.

Dayrep wrote:

How much more can I possibly jerk off!!?? lol. Nofap is good for health.

[Anonymous 11]

@dayrep: You want desperately to be in a relationship is what I’m detecting here. You are not putting yourself in a strong position here thereby setting yourself up for guaranteed failure. The guys I know that are in actual relationships are either jealous of me for my vastly simplified life. The others are manginas trapped in mangina hell.

Women really can sense this desperation and many will flee from you as you will come across as clingy and weak. The ones that will feign interest will use you only as an easy mark for a dickstand. Whenever the felon of their dreams gets released from prison poof you’re gone brother. These are soul less cruel creatures you are dealing with here always remember that.

I will freely admit that if a unicorn happened to show up in my life and could accept red pill me as-is. I might consider a relationship, but the odds of that asymptotically approach zero.

[Anonymous 11]

Dayrep wrote:

I also like it when they’re nice and help you out with emotional stuff or give advice

When they’re nice they always have ulterior motives. When they help you out with emotional stuff they are simply probing you for weaknesses to exploit. As for their advice, it’s only worth is to further manipulate you for gynocentric purposes.

You’ve got to get this idealized version of women out of your head. You are going to get used and burned guaranteed repeatedly until you learn that lesson. That’s what it finally took for me.

Only when you can accept them as they truly are will you be ready for a relationship. Even then, you’re going to waste countless hours dealing with their bulls~~~ and always need to protect yourself from every scheme imaginable.

[Anonymous 42]

Smitty the Great One wrote:

women can smell that s~~~ from a country mile away

So on your country mile journey remember when a woman asks; where does the road go? Answer; road don’t go nowheia, it stays right heia.

[John DoeParticipant 743]

Look guys, MGTOW is great but I just can’t control my urge to be in a f~~~ing relationship. I not only like having sex with women I also like it when they’re nice and help you out with emotional stuff or give advice….

Being insecure and horny is a bad combination.  You have to acknowledge this simple fact.   You are horny.  You are afraid of being alone.  Both these things are overrated in the sense that if you fulfill either the satisfaction will only be a temporary fix.

In regards to their advice, it cannot be that good otherwise you would not be here.  Do not mistake advice with being told what you want to hear.  This is a facet of a twisted female nature.  Women nurture, maybe not in today’s society, but biologically speaking that is what they are programmed to do .  Whether for the better or worse a woman will tell you not what you need to hear, but rather what you want to hear.

On a personal note, I had women tell me (multiple) that they had no clue what was in my mind.  They are far from omniscient.  I think you are more open with your emotions than you might care to admit, and this is where your confusion stems from.  You think they are smart, when in reality you are probably an easy read for them let alone everyone else.

they can be pretty good at it since they’re more in tune with their emotions or whatever and thus know us better than we know ourselves. Everytime I have a deep conversation with a woman I’m connecting with, she makes me introspect and often some good comes of it!

I am going to just flat disagree.  This is untrue at multiple levels.

Women know how to manipulate a man’s emotions because it is an acquired skillset.

In regards to the deep conversations I will be frank.  Women are not deep creatures, you just might be emotionally shallow.  Women rarely, if ever, give good advice that does not backfire in the long term.   Very simple evidence is that the more power they attain the more a society begins to crumble.  Or that fact that most gang members are raised by their mothers.  Do not mistake advice for being nurtured.  With that being said, nurturing is not enough.  If the devil was cute enough the average woman would be glad to breast feed him.  They have no sense of right or wrong with the exception of what was pass on to them by their fathers.  A woman’s morality is determined more by her father rather than herself.  Getting back to the nature of women: they nuture, and in today’s times poorly.  Do not mistake nurturing for a sense of right or wrong.

Women know when we are attached and when we’re ready to leave a relationship, I don’t know how they do it.

This is untrue.  Men know this too.  This is not an attribute based soley on “womanhood”, it is a facet of human nature.  With that being said, I am under the impression you are a very emotional man.  With that being said you probably gave off a lot of signals without knowing it.  Your “understanding” of women has less to do with women and more about yourself.

So PLEASE tell me how to have the upper hand in a relationship and be in a position to make HER feel bad instead? I mean, I won’t exercise this power, but I would love to be in a position of power you know?

Gain control of yourself.  You do not need to make her feel bad.  As a matter of fact you shouldn’t care what she thinks.  Women are always dissatisfied, unless their womb is full.  Your focus should be on gaining control over your emotions and passions.  You have to face your fear of being alone.   And once you face it you will understand being alone is not that big of a deal.  Focus less on her and more on yourself.  Your falsely placed faith in women underscores your own value as a man.

I don’t want her to MAKE me think that I’m in control but really it’s her.

Let her think she is in control.  Who cares what she thinks.

My diagnosis is that you are suffering from severe manginanism, with a very small touch of white knightery.  You need more redpills.  Approximately a few doses every 2-3 hours for the next six weeks.  This should alleviate some of your symptoms.  That and find a job or hobby that has meaning to you.

[RennieParticipant]

Maybe you just need to run into the proverbial iceberg to be forced to face the ugly reality of these things in a way you can understand. That’s how I learned. Never forgot it either.

#nofap is not good for you mentally, it makes you crazy, it makes you think stupid thoughts and the lack of control and clear thinking could get you into trouble legally, in more ways then one.

[AlbertParticipant 646]

@dayrep

Some excellent advice has already been written above but for my two cents I’d just like to throw in this quote from Walter White.

I think his words are worth keeping in mind before and during any relationship you enter into.

E=MC² Bitch

[TYEParticipant 291]

Dayrep wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>OldAtHeart wrote:</div>
Well considering how I’ve been emotionally f~~~ed my entire life by the women in my family, I can’t quite understand your lust for companionship. I do on the other hand know what’s its like to lust for something thats not good for you, and trust me you playing with the fire that is woman will only result in you getting burned beyond ability to heal. I say leave it alone do whatever it is you have to, and eliminate that lust you have for women. The feelings you’re having are not real they’re nothing but an illusion, and when you learn to see women as nothing but sexual objects you will realize this.

I agree with most of what you said, but why do you say that I won’t be able to heal? That means my suspicion was right, that they will come to know my buttons and can emotionally f~~~ me over and I am handicapped in this arena as a man.

Well it is true that she can learn your buttons, and emotionally f~~~ you over, but she can also land you in prison for something you didn’t do. We’re no longer just facing emotional destruction, but we now have to worry about our entire lives being ruined. Women do not know right from wrong, and getting into a relationship with one is like playing with a mentally retarded giant (no offense to anyone). The giant may care for you, but it doesn’t know it’s own destructive power one day it could be playing with you, and BAM you’re crushed. Women are just like the giant i’m talking about they have no idea whats going on, and no idea how to properly handle a man.

[DayrepSpectator 69]

JollyMisanthrope wrote:

If you are going to be in a relationship then make sure she is the one having to keep up with trying to please you and not the other way around.

How can I achieve that?

Anonymous wrote:

He’s off to the saloon “again”, that’s not water they serve, It’s mind blowing whiskey! The horse is going to drink from the poison watering hole, thinking it’s going to quench his thirst……

I’ve tried the water of the shallows and it seems to quench my thirst very well

Cipher Highwind wrote:

The fact that you mention “no fap”, that pile of pseudo-religious nonsense, indicates that you likely do not masturbate at a sufficient frequency. Once per day usually prevents thoughts of relations~~~s. Finally, if your writing is any indication, you are too dumb to guard yourself against the machinations of females, so for that reason alone, I would advise against playing with that kind of fire.

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Dayrep wrote:</div>
How much more can I possibly jerk off!!?? lol. Nofap is good for health.

Yes maybe I’m too dumb and have been manipulated oh so much. But some of it doesn’t seem like manipulation at all so… idk

Rennie wrote:

Maybe you just need to run into the proverbial iceberg to be forced to face the ugly reality of these things in a way you can understand. That’s how I learned. Never forgot it either. #nofap is not good for you mentally, it makes you crazy, it makes you think stupid thoughts and the lack of control and clear thinking could get you into trouble legally, in more ways then one.

Nofap is actually really good. Try it for 30 days you’ll see.. People’s lives have changed.

Albert wrote:

@dayrep Some excellent advice has already been written above but for my two cents I’d just like to throw in this quote from Walter White. I think his words are worth keeping in mind before and during any relationship you enter into.

I agree. Thanks!

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Dayrep wrote:

How can I achieve that?

A big part of it is making sure she knows you are completely free to bail from the relationship at any time for any reason so that she has to give you incentives to stay.  This is exactly the reason why women are so keen on “commitment”, because all commitment means is she no longer has to work to earn your attention.  Or anything else she wants from you.

So never commit.  Ever.

Dayrep wrote:

But I’m afraid that she will know my weaknesses too and be able to use them to manipulate me.

Relationships are dangerous, risky things.  But then so is driving on a freeway.  So always watch at least a half mile ahead, check your blind spots before making any moves, and always leave yourself an open out in case things get dangerous.  Oh, and check your mirrors every five seconds.  Seriosuly, every five seconds you need to be asking yourself if what you are doing in the relationship right now is something you really want to do and if it is something that might affect your future happiness.  And if it isn’t, immediately pick an open way out and bail.  Oh, and never under any circumstances do anything that might attract the attention of law enforcement.  Traffic court fines are nothing compared to the pain and suffering family court can lay on you.  These days you also want to make certain to document everything just in case, so it’s essential to have the relationship equivalent of one of those dashboard cameras the Russians all seem to have.

In other words the only way to manage risk is constant vigilance. If you aren’t prepared to be constantly on alert, and I do mean constantly, then it’s probably best to stay out of relationships.  And off the freeway.

[DayrepSpectator 69]

Puffin Stuff wrote:

However much I’ve been burned, been accused of all sorts of things to the police and in family court, I would still be in a relationship if the right one came along. To me the right one has to be one I just can’t go without f~~~ing and that I can bail on immediately with no second thoughts. Women I meet who want to get married right away are out. Women who can’t support themselves are out. I don’t care much about what they think. I’m looking for a quick shag. If I were to consider having a woman live in, the very next thought I would have is how to get her out if things went south, and they always do. Girls with a larcenous heart are more fun and much less likely to call the cops. I know it sounds mercenary but that’s what everyone, men and women should do. A relationship is for you. Not the both of you. You are two are not one person. This is feminist malarky. You are a person and a parasite. The parasite will not let go so easily when asked to stop the sucking. Plan for that. If, when thinking of these plans you suspect she will get around them, run away from her, don’t walk. A good woman will deal with you treating her fairly. A good woman would never expect you to stay if she were being a psycho-bitch. Which, sadly what she will become no matter how hard you try. And it may take up to four years for her to stop being able to hide this behavior. And there are nearly no good women. Don’t trust her. You don’t have to tell her anything you don’t want to. Never sign anything. Document everything, especially don’t ever let her receive mail at your home. The law says she can claim residence and the cops will put you out of your home. My bottom line advice: Don’t do it. If you do, have a great time but be super careful, your sleeping with a woman. Women are dangerous aggressive animals that bite.

Good women don’t exist. They only appear good, but 100% guaranteed they’re bitches and you’re not the one seeing that side of them. But if you stick around long enough, you will!

 

I’m a foreign student in a university. Sometimes I forget how easily a woman could f~~~ up my life. Thankfully though, most women don’t report false rape.

[DayrepSpectator 69]

Anonymous wrote:

@dayrep: You want desperately to be in a relationship is what I’m detecting here. You are not putting yourself in a strong position here thereby setting yourself up for guaranteed failure. The guys I know that are in actual relationships are either jealous of me for my vastly simplified life. The others are manginas trapped in mangina hell. Women really can sense this desperation and many will flee from you as you will come across as clingy and weak. The ones that will feign interest will use you only as an easy mark for a dickstand. Whenever the felon of their dreams gets released from prison poof you’re gone brother. These are soul less cruel creatures you are dealing with here always remember that. I will freely admit that if a unicorn happened to show up in my life and could accept red pill me as-is. I might consider a relationship, but the odds of that asymptotically approach zero.

Yes I agree with you 100% I am desperate and will fall flat on my f~~~ing face if I don’t pull my head out of my ass! My friends hate being in relationships too. Except the manginas and white-knights who pay in other ways, if you know what I mean lol.

 

I feel like the blue-pill society is too strong and I’m crumbling under the pressure. I don’t know what to do! It’s so hard being a red pill man. Though if social pressures on being a certain way weren’t there, life would be good…. The deception is too deep and powerful.

 

Anonymous wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Dayrep wrote:</div>
I also like it when they’re nice and help you out with emotional stuff or give advice

When they’re nice they always have ulterior motives. When they help you out with emotional stuff they are simply probing you for weaknesses to exploit. As for their advice, it’s only worth is to further manipulate you for gynocentric purposes. You’ve got to get this idealized version of women out of your head. You are going to get used and burned guaranteed repeatedly until you learn that lesson. That’s what it finally took for me. Only when you can accept them as they truly are will you be ready for a relationship. Even then, you’re going to waste countless hours dealing with their bulls~~~ and always need to protect yourself from every scheme imaginable.

Are you sure about this? Last month I was talking to a girl online who didn’t want anything to do with me sexually, but just wanted to be friends. She and I discussed a lot of deep stuff and she was very nice. But then she left without warning. lol. She also said that she would LOVE to help someone become a better person and how she feels sorry for bitter and angry people on the internet.

 

I guess you are right though. Still, somewhere deep in my subconsious, I have an idealized image of women. And this is causing a lot of problems for me. It’s hard to get this out, because this image is what society keeps on reinforcing.

[DayrepSpectator 69]

gtg to class now. Will reply to the rest later. Thanks everyone! I’m making a new thread plz help me out there lol

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Dayrep wrote:

I’m a foreign student in a university.

Whatever you do, don’t date any women in the university.  Just don’t.  Those girls have been indoctrinated from day one about “rape culture” and other bulls~~~ and they know the legal advantages they have over men at university.  They are not worth the risk.  Seriously.  Stay the hell away from them.

If you absolutely must try to meet women, go into town.  It’s a university town, so the risk among the townie girls will be higher than normal, but nowhere near the suicidal levels on campus.

[DayrepSpectator 69]

sidecar wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Dayrep wrote:</div>
I’m a foreign student in a university.

Whatever you do, <strong class=”d4pbbc-bold”>don’t date any women in the university. Just don’t. Those girls have been indoctrinated from day one about “rape culture” and other bulls~~~ and they know the legal advantages they have over men at university. They are not worth the risk. Seriously. Stay the hell away from them. If you absolutely must try to meet women, go into town. It’s a university town, so the risk among the townie girls will be higher than normal, but nowhere near the suicidal levels on campus.

How did you know that I’m in a university town? O_O

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