I want to understand MGTOW better. Any help?

[GreekDragoonParticipant 460]

Greek to Greek: Πρώτα απο όλα καλησπέρα και δεύτερον και κάνενας εδώ δεν είναι φίλος σού εάν γράφεις μαλακίες που σε κάνει να δείχνεις σαν γυναικάκι.

1MGTOW wrote:

Hello my friends. I’m back since a month and a half of absence. This thread isn’t actually to announce my return, but to ask you, MGTOWs, about this mindset and way of thinking/being. I want to understand it better, because I don’t think I have fully gotten into it. So let me begin.

1 First of all, does MGTOW mean solitude? Not complete loneliness, ’cause some mgtow guys have friends and people to talk to, but I know that they refuse to have children, get married, or even have a relationship. So, will they be like that for the rest of their lives? Just hanging around with friends (maybe not even the same) until they die? It sounds very “shallow” and sad to me.

Whats sadder? Living your life as you please with your friends or getting married, have kids, get divorced and never see those kids again but pay through your nose for child support and alimony?

2 How MGTOW faces homosexual men? I’m asking that because gay men aren’t attracted sexually to women at all, and have a romantic relationship with a person of the same gender. But at the same time, some gay mens’ behavior and reaction is more feminine, and — in extreme cases, getting dressed like women. What’s the mgtow point of view about male homosexuals?

Most men here aren’t attracted to men, gays are gays not our problem.

3 Isn’t it a bit ironic, that during the day you critisize feminism and women (their acts, way of thinking, habits etc), but at the end of the day you actually fap looking at women?

The same way I find it ironic that women believe they can slut around at their youthful prime and still believe they are marriage and motherly material at their mid 30s early 40s. And yes, the above screams of woman’s thinking. Also, many ways to fap; personally I prefer hentai. Far prettier and the voice actresses are the only women involved.

4 Don’t you think is ugly the fact that men and women are most away from each other than ever before? How new life will exist if we all go our own ways?

Not my problem. I wasn’t born to be the wage slave of a c~~~ and a country that doesn’t give a f~~~ about me. Why should I give a f~~~?

Not my purpose to offend anyone, of course! That’s the last thing I want. I’m only writing some questions that I have and try to get things clear. I don’t force you to answer to all of these four, but if you do have an answer, I’d like to read it. Be well!

Εισαι επαγγελματίας μαλάκας η απλά προικισμένος ερασιτέχνης;

Sorry about the Greek guys, just had to put some things down.

[OldBillParticipant]

GreekDragoon wrote:

Sorry about the Greek guys, just had to put some things down.

No need to apologize for using your native tongue.

I will point out that, just because “The Greek” claims to be be Greek, it doesn’t mean they actually are Greek.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[GregB0Participant]

OldBill wrote:

The Greek wrote:

Hello my friends.

We’re not your friends and you need to leave before it gets ugly.

Each and every one of your “questions” could have been answered by spending some time reading these forums and you don’t need to be a member to read what it posted here.

Stop pretending you’re interested in MGTOW, stop pretending your a man, and get out.

Great points OldBill and this just reinforces the need to maintain critical thinking skills while reading and not falling into a pattern of blind acceptance of posts.

The lesson learned: Numerous MGTOW themed posts that are not criticized yet have a common nonMGTOW tone does not lend validation towards ones status long term.

Easy to forget and my compliments on your continued critique and analysis. You remain solid MGTOW and a member whose abilities it would be wise for others to learn and utilize.

Long way to say; Dang missed this by a country mile!

​"​My father didn't tell me how to live; he lived, and let me watch him do it.​" - Clarence Buddinton Kelland

[hmskl’dParticipant 6406]

1MGTOW wrote:

1 First of all, does MGTOW mean solitude?

Nope, that is, unless you want solitude .. then it does. It could also mean dancing your way through every beach across the Caribbean .. if that’s your desire.

1MGTOW wrote:

2 How MGTOW faces homosexual men?

I don’t know any homosexual men .. but, if I did, and they were my neighbors .. I’d probably say hi and buy them a cup of coffee just as I would for any other neighbors I run into at the Coffee Shop.

1MGTOW wrote:

3 Isn’t it a bit ironic, that during the day you critisize feminism and women (their acts, way of thinking, habits etc), but at the end of the day you actually fap looking at women?

You have answered this one, yourself. You mention in your statement that we critisize women’s acts, way of thinking and habits. That’s it .. you nailed hit right in the head. You see, I don’t hate women. Never had, never will .. I just don’t care for their current acts, way of thinking and habits.

1MGTOW wrote:

4 How new life will exist if we all go our own ways?

That’s a good question. I’ll think about this one as I lie in my new hammock .. and gmow. You see, it’s not my doing as to whether the plant is saved due to separation of the sexes. The women will have to agonize over this one. If they have any worthwhile ideas as to how they might change themselves and their attitudes and behaviors to remedy this. I’m open to conversation and good ideas. I’ll even pay for the coffee.

[OldBillParticipant]

Thank you, Greg. Coming from a man of your education, learning, and experience, that was a compliment which left me abashed.

I often post Acta non verba or some variation of it. While Deeds not words is a good measuring stick to carry through life, what can you do when all you have to measure are words?

You wisely explained just what we can do:

Numerous MGTOW themed posts that are not criticized yet have a common nonMGTOW tone does not lend validation towards ones status long term.

We must examine the tone of the words, determine what is being implied, and identify what actual beliefs and opinions are behind it all. How someone is saying something is in many ways more important than what they are saying because someone can always say something they don’t actually believe.

Think of it as a Turing test for MGTOW.

In the classic Turing test, you communicate with an unknown party in order to determine whether you’re talking to a machine or a human being. The longer the conversation goes on, the more information you’re given with which to make your decision. Sometimes the fact that you’re talking to a machine is readily obvious, just as it is with blatant trolls, and sometimes you need more data.

The same process works with frauds like The Greek. While you can’t point to a single sentence or post when deciding they’re a troll, you can easily point to all their posts as a group when making the same determination. It’s all the tiny slips, inferences, unstated opinions, and implied thinking across all their posts which eventually culminate in a determination and not one single Aha! moment. The evidence slowly builds until the truth becomes self evident.

The Greek has finally posted enough for enough evidence to accumulate. The charade is now over and it’s best that they leave.

Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

[foghornleghornParticipant 3449]

In a nutshell MGTOW means going your own way. If that means that you are a man who enjoys solitude, embrace it and don’t give a f~~~ what the world tells you to settle down. If you are a guy who enjoys being social embrace it and don’t give a f~~~ when the world tells you to settle down.

Ultimately MGTOW is about telling society that we are no longer going to follow the trend of manning up and serving as a wallet for women.

[foghornleghornParticipant 3449]

1MGTOW wrote:

3 Isn’t it a bit ironic, that during the day you critisize feminism and women (their acts, way of thinking, habits etc), but at the end of the day you actually fap looking at women?

Feminism is ideology. Feminism isn’t women nor does it represent all women. So not really sure how the criticism of an ideology prevents someone from masturbating to women. Furthermore, understand that just because you go MGTOW doesn’t mean that you are done with sexual urges, you still have those. The only difference is that we realize how dangerous f~~~ing an actual woman is. From STD’s to being hooked for 18 f~~~ing years of child support. We live in a society where a woman has the ability to choose when she wants to become a mother but a man has no choice. Given this very realistic landscape I can tell you that beating off to porn is a lot safer than entering into any sort of relationship with a woman.

1MGTOW wrote:

4 Don’t you think is ugly the fact that men and women are most away from each other than ever before? How new life will exist if we all go our own ways?

No, I don’t think it’s ugly. I had no hand in causing this schism. Neither did my MGTOW bretheren. We are merely tailoring our lives to live in this new landscape. But just because this schism exist it won’t stop guys from knocking women up. For more on this, just look at the NFL player Antonio Cromartie who has 17 kids from many different mothers and I believe 4 of those kids were born after he allegedly got a vasectomy. Understand that the poor and the f~~~ing retards will always breed without conscience.

[AutoliteParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

Oh KM I think we’ve got another one.

I think it’s just a matter of subjective perspective. When some of you guys see Tuna, I see a typical male Torontonian…

[IRuleMeParticipant]

I’m here! And you know what that means…

[Anonymous 14]

1MGTOW wrote:

Hello my friends. I’m back since a month and a half of absence. This thread isn’t actually to announce my return, but to ask you, MGTOWs, about this mindset and way of thinking/being. I want to understand it better, because I don’t think I have fully gotten into it. So let me begin.

1 First of all, does MGTOW mean solitude? Not complete loneliness, ’cause some mgtow guys have friends and people to talk to, but I know that they refuse to have children, get married, or even have a relationship. So, will they be like that for the rest of their lives? Just hanging around with friends (maybe not even the same) until they die? It sounds very “shallow” and sad to me.

2 How MGTOW faces homosexual men? I’m asking that because gay men aren’t attracted sexually to women at all, and have a romantic relationship with a person of the same gender. But at the same time, some gay mens’ behavior and reaction is more feminine, and — in extreme cases, getting dressed like women. What’s the mgtow point of view about male homosexuals?

3 Isn’t it a bit ironic, that during the day you critisize feminism and women (their acts, way of thinking, habits etc), but at the end of the day you actually fap looking at women?

4 Don’t you think is ugly the fact that men and women are most away from each other than ever before? How new life will exist if we all go our own ways?

Not my purpose to offend anyone, of course! That’s the last thing I want. I’m only writing some questions that I have and try to get things clear. I don’t force you to answer to all of these four, but if you do have an answer, I’d like to read it. Be well!

All the answers you seek are held here within these forums. Start clicking and start reading 🙂

[Anonymous 14]

IRuleMe wrote:

I’m here! And you know what that means…

Nodding my head now.

[ghostParticipant]

OldBill wrote:

We’re not your friends and you need to leave before it gets ugly.

I think Bill has given you some sound advice.

[TicParticipant 4329]

no guy would come here and ask: “explain mgtow.”
it’s obviously a ploy to get responses for an article or school project or whatever f~~~ she’s writing for.

bitch, I don’t have time to explain s~~~ to you. do some research.

God bless peace and freedom.

[LonestarParticipant 333]

Wha no membership card? No secret handshake? F~~~!

So often times it happens that we live our lives in chains and we never even know we have the key. Eagles

[Can’t Stump TrumpParticipant]

The new school year has begun, and all the weemin’s studies classes have assigned their misandrist research paper assignments. I’m a teacher, so I’ll gladly help you out.

MGTOW are a collection of bitter, narcissistic, misogynistic losers who live in their mother’s basements eating chips, watching porn, playing video games, and griping about women. A MGHOW can be identified through the following characteristics: he is overweight, unintelligent, a virgin, and has a tiny penis (about which he is extremely insecure). His bitterness typically stems from the fact that he can’t get laid because no girl wants to date him.

You have my permission to quote me verbatim. If you are using MLA format, remember to follow the rules for block quotes: indent the entire quote, don’t use quotation marks, and include the citation in parentheses after the final period (or use a footnote).

Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.

[Eric LauderParticipant 12043]

It’s not a tuna, it’s our still very confused Greek brother.
I’m on mobile now, give me about twenty minutes and I’ll answer to all his questions.

SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.

[ghostParticipant]

Can’t Stump Trump wrote:

The new school year has begun, and all the weemin’s studies classes have assigned their misandrist research paper assignments. I’m a teacher, so I’ll gladly help you out.

She should be FIRED! Out!

[Eric LauderParticipant 12043]

Can’t Stump Trump wrote:

The new school year has begun, and all the weemin’s studies classes have assigned their misandrist research paper assignments. I’m a teacher, so I’ll gladly help you out.

MGTOW are a collection of bitter, narcissistic, misogynistic losers who live in their mother’s basements eating chips, watching porn, playing video games, and griping about women. A MGHOW can be identified through the following characteristics: he is overweight, unintelligent, a virgin, and has a tiny penis (about which he is extremely insecure). His bitterness typically stems from the fact that he can’t get laid because no girl wants to date him.

You have my permission to quote me verbatim. If you are using MLA format, remember to follow the rules for block quotes: indent the entire quote, don’t use quotation marks, and include the citation in parentheses after the final period (or use a footnote).

I also have debts, and a very low sex drive, also a small dick, and I’m used to fart a lot.

NEVER forget to add “debts” and “very low sex drive”: that’s essential.

SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.

[PistolPeteParticipant 27143]

I don’t believe this is a tuna either rather a young man immersed in the gynocracy trying to get out of it!

[Can’t Stump TrumpParticipant]

PistolPete wrote:

I don’t believe this is a tuna either rather a young man immersed in the gynocracy trying to get out of it!

I’m sure you have your reasons. I haven’t pressed the button yet since there’s been no follow up. However, if “he” thinks we’re so lonely, sad, shallow, and hypocritical, why is he here?

Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.

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