I wanna Learn more about right wing side of politics

[CasualGuy227Participant 170]

Hey guys looking to learn more about right wing/conservative forms of politics and just the general political ideologies, philosophies and their view points.

From what I understand ( I may be wrong here) of the right wing in political sense is that it has to do with more individual progression over the collective, privatisation of services, tradition rules and customs in certain aspect such as nuclear family.

So far from when i was younger and blinded by bias feeds I would have said i was more a left voter and now a centre based voter listening to politics ( sorry but i hate identity politics made me kinda cringe a lil)

I thought it would be only more fair to expand my mind and look and study more right wing based ideologies since i have the media and such putting some what more and more zealotry far left ideas down the throats of us mere plebeians.

that being said I would like to learn from basics /101s up to some more complex ideas if possible from both the UK based and U.S based parties and views if possible.

Would any one have any sources, views, books, videos or any other forms of communication they think would help me learn a bit more and give it more of a fair shot and inspection to help me grow my overall knowledge.

Thanks in advance

– Casual Guy

[Solo MAN’S WisdomParticipant]

Conservative Politics 101.

Step 1. Remove your head from your ass.
Step 2. Enjoy the view and fresh air.
Step 3. VERY IMPORTANT. Learn the difference between Natural / Design Law and Imposed Law. Follow Natural Law first. Follow imposed law ONLY if it complies with Natural Law.
Step 4. Go Your Own Way.
Step 5. Embrace INDIVIDUAL liberties, accountability, and responsibilities.
Step 6. Recognize the destruction from allowing non-tax payers [i.e. women] to vote [for the collective].
Step 7. NEVER sign a marriage contract.
Step 8. Work for yourself, if at all possible. This will minimize your tax burden paying in to the gynocentric sewer that is centralized government.

When women lead, destruction is the destination. -- Me.

[CasualGuy227Participant 170]

Solo MAN’S Wisdom wrote:

Conservative Politics 101.

Step 1. Remove your head from your ass.
Step 2. Enjoy the view and fresh air.
Step 3. VERY IMPORTANT. Learn the difference between Natural / Design Law and Imposed Law. Follow Natural Law first. Follow imposed law ONLY if it complies with Natural Law.
Step 4. Go Your Own Way.
Step 5. Embrace INDIVIDUAL liberties, accountability, and responsibilities.
Step 6. Recognize the destruction from allowing non-tax payers [i.e. women] to vote [for the collective].
Step 7. NEVER sign a marriage contract.
Step 8. Work for yourself, if at all possible. This will minimize your tax burden paying in to the gynocentric sewer that is centralized government.

thanks I will look into the differences between those laws, no one has ever mention that terminology to me so that will be a new thing to study.

[Anonymous 12]

Conservative politics and Capitalism is what people do when they are left alone. Ever notice how the Left have to keep on hammering away their point and try to silence people, even people who are Left wing themselves? They need to have complete servitude from it’s followers because they change the rules so often.

Right wing is more about just being free.

And don’t believe the whole thing about the Nazi’s being Right wing, they were Left as well.

[CasualGuy227Participant 170]

that is very true they demand and socially engineer pressure it seems through buzz words, social collectivism and shaming language to try to crush their opposition instead of using policies and rational argument from what I have seen their actions have become quite predictable in my opinion to a degree

[JustAnotherGuyParticipant]

Milton Friedman. Thomas Sowell. Listen to them talking about markets, and apply that to government. That’s what government should be.

Beware the US Republican party because it’s just another flavor of collectivism. They just happen to understand fiscal policy and taxes. They still want to control you and your spending habits.

Cupcakes are Cold. MGTOW is Absolute Zero.
“Let us wait a little; when your enemy is executing a false movement, never interrupt him” –Napoleon Bonaparte, 1805

[Solo MAN’S WisdomParticipant]

CasualGuy227 wrote:

thanks I will look into the differences between those laws, no one has ever mention that terminology to me so that will be a new thing to study.

Natural/Design Law — Laws of physics/chemistry/mathematics. Laws of health. Laws of worship [called “Modeling” by psychiatrists]. Laws of giving. Laws of Liberty. Laws of Love.

Natural Laws have inherent penalties associated with ignoring them or thinking they don’t apply to you. For example — if you think that the law of gravity only applies to others, and you step off of a cliff, gravity will still exert its influence on you. No magistrate will need to judge against you and fine you for “breaking” the law of gravity. The same principle governs the laws of health. For example — if you think that the law of respiration does not apply to you, you’re free to tie a plastic bag over your head and keep your CO2, however, the attempt to violate the law of respiration has its own consequences, and no police force, or judicial system is needed.

The understanding of these “Natural” laws were at the foundation of the USA’s Declaration of Independence and Bill of Rights.

Look how far we have fallen . . .

When women lead, destruction is the destination. -- Me.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22561]

The progressives claim the right is becoming more fascist. The conservatives claim the left is becoming more communist.

Both groups are wrong. What is happening presently is that the left is become more fascist, while the right is becoming more communist.

Fascism attracts those whom believe they are better than everyone else and whom believe they should control everyone else. This explains the whole SJW movements and other arrogant people embracing the left.

Communism attracts the disenfranchised and those whom desire justice against those whom have wrong them, which what we are seeing on the right.

[743 roadmasterParticipant]

If a Conservative is a vegetarian, he doesn’t eat meat.
If a Liberal/Progressive is a vegetarian, he wants all meat products banned for everyone.
If a Conservative is down and out he thinks about how he can better his situation.
If a Liberal/Progressive is down and out, he thinks the government should take care of him.
If a Conservative does not like the speaker at a rally, he does not go to it. If a Liberal/Progressive does not like the speaker at a rally, he wants the rally stopped and the speaker jailed.

mgtow is its own worst enemy- https://www.campusreform.org/

[narwhalParticipant]

Just don’t assume anything someone is telling you is rational and correct. Think it through always. Then develop the principles you understand and believe in regardless of whether that fits a left or right political agenda.

Just to give examples. I not for entitlement programs. The argument on the left seems to be that if you are not for government entitlements, you’re a selfish person. However, I see nothing generous or altruistic in forcing one person to give money to another, particularly when the person receiving the money isn’t going to do anything constructive with it.

At the same time, I think many conservative values are selfishly motivated. When it comes to homosexuality for example, there are a lot of conservative who want to use the government as a tool to push their own morality on others. I’m not a fan of that either.

Ok. Then do it.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22561]

narwhal wrote:

At the same time, I think many conservative values are selfishly motivated.

All politics are selfishly motivated in some way.

[Y_Participant 4591]

Sir, if you want to understand the right-wing then I suggest you need to understand the left-wing first including case studies of the USSR, Nazism and Stalinism.

Look up my prior posts on Trotsky and the Fourth International – the basis of the DC swamp.

Economics plays a BIG part. You will not get the fundamentals without understanding in detail the monetary policy of each.

Please note that in today’s government there is no such division or distinction as what I advised. It is all about the gravy train.

I suggest to go back to basics and the Constitution. Jefferson was no fool. There is no better teacher than the Bill of Rights.

[Solo MAN’S WisdomParticipant]

narwhal wrote:

Just don’t assume anything someone is telling you is rational and correct. Think it through always. Then develop the principles you understand and believe in regardless of whether that fits a left or right political agenda.

AMEN brother.

Learn to think for yourself. Can’t say it enough.

When women lead, destruction is the destination. -- Me.

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

Let me know when you want a no f~~~s given politics class.

Im a senior profesor in zero f~~~ given, don’t give a f~~~ 101 and who gives a f~~~ advance.

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[BoBParticipant 823]

CasualGuy227 wrote:

thanks I will look into the differences between those laws, no one has ever mention that terminology to me so that will be a new thing to study.

If you’re up for it, check out F.A. Hayek’s “Road to Serfdom”. It is translated from German, so it is a bit clunky. It distinguished between “natural order” or those systems that built itself (ie. capitalism) and “made orders” which attempt to create systems (ie. central planning). The first is predicated upon the idea that markets are drawn to efficiency and create efficient systems. The second makes an assumption that an uber-smart committee can plan out the production and distribution for everyone. (this is called communism and it’s cuter cousin, socialism).

Don’t get caught up in all the “social conservative/liberal” junk. You honestly can’t be both a fiscal conservative and social liberal. This is because social liberals insist on spending for a million different identity groups and causes. There is no definition of what that final equality looks like. How does one measure or quantify social justice? You can’t. This is a blank check.

[JuehueParticipant 1316]

Conservative politics: Small government big church (less government control but more social control)

narwhal wrote:

At the same time, I think many conservative values are selfishly motivated. When it comes to homosexuality for example, there are a lot of conservative who want to use the government as a tool to push their own morality on others. I’m not a fan of that either.

Well by default there were no gay marriage, so they didn’t really use the government as a tool to push their morality on others. Not disagreeing with you, but this is a poor example.

From a small government stand point, they see it as a slippery slope argument. Now if gay marriage are legal, will the government intervene if your institution refuses to do it? (Case example: the baker who refuses to bake a cake for a gay couple)

[Anonymous 14]

Juehue wrote:

Conservative politics: Small government big church (less government control but more social control)

This type of Conservatism is really Leftist in disguise, as these people like big Government and HUGE Military to further their Religious beliefs in the Mid East. Trump pandered to the Libertarian types while campaigning, but he is proving to be yet another one of these fake Conservatives with the signing of the latest budget, spending even more on Military as Generals talk about dying for Israel…I highly doubt he will be reelected. This branch of Right Wing politics is really just Leftist, as they want your money, in massive amounts, to further their cause, just for different things than many on the “Left” want. Religious Conservatism is just another form of Collectivism. These guys and those on the Left are no different than one another as they all want your money to pay for their s~~~.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-03-19/top-us-general-says-american-troops-should-be-ready-die-israel

That is pretty Leftist right there ^, even worse, it is Leftist in favor of a particular nation which is not YOURS. It is ten times more f~~~ed up than Leftist Politics within your own country. Unfortunately there are many here, and in Right Wing Politics in general for that matter who support this. They are the types who will bitch about their taxes being used for abortion, but never bitch about their taxes being used to fund and provide military actions of aggression for Israel costing the U.S. TRILLIONS, and killing over two million just since 9/11.

True Right Wing politics are more Libertarian, everyone stay the f~~~ out of everyone’s pockets. It is about Freedom, Liberty, Small Government, as few oppressive laws as possible, small Military, little to no intervention in other countries affairs/disputes. Basically do what you wish as long as it causes no harm or loss to others, no victimless crimes. The Republican party has been moving more and more in this direction. Rand Paul and his father Ron Paul being the driving force in this direction.

[CasualGuy227Participant 170]

Carnage wrote:

Let me know when you want a no f~~~s given politics class.

Im a senior profesor in zero f~~~ given, don’t give a f~~~ 101 and who gives a f~~~ advance.

well i am happy to expand and learn to improve myself in all aspects when possible, not giving a f~~~ in a productive way would be a welcome aspect to have as well as how to deal and navigate my way threw political correctness bull s~~~

[Gravel PitParticipant]

Juehue wrote:

Small government big church

Juehue wrote:

a slippery slope argument. Now if gay marriage are legal, will the government intervene if your institution refuses to do it?

This is where I think Conservativism fails, (I’m more or less conservative and vote rightwing usually) they are far too motivated by Christian values. Case and point, their failure to stop gay marriage.

The thing is, there are numerable arguments against gay marriage which don’t require appeals to religion. The RIGHT didn’t use those arguments, they just kept deferring to religious arguments and that is why it fell to the states and now several States have made gay marriage legal.

While I normally support a small Federal government and letting the States decide their own issues, this was an instance where they dropped the ball. While being gay shouldn’t be a crime, they were better off in the closet because homosexuality is not genetic, nor were they suffering real bias.

I’m an atheist conservative. We can fight for what’s right without religion. I have nothing against gays at all, I have many friends who are gay. I live in a gay area. But homosexuality is 99% caused by child abuse in my opinion. We basically legalized sexual deviancy because less than .001% of people who are legitimately born homosexual. So because a very few are legit gay, now we encourage a larger minority of people who aren’t gay, but sick, to delude themselves and practice weird lifestyles.

This is all Memetics. Homosexuality is a meme, part of the Memeplex Progressive Liberalism. Facts and truth don’t matter to a meme, only how well it can be believed, mimicked and passed on. It doesn’t matter if childhood sexual abuse or other factors lead to homosexuality, all that matters is if they’re successfully seen as victims of discrimination and influence the system to excuse their disease and call it normal.

Anyway. You ask about Rightwing Politics. You’re tugging on a leaf, which is part of a branch, connected to a huge limb on a tree in the forest. Its all connected. Politics is memetic, affected by other memeplexes like religion or cultural memeplexes like Liberalism/Feminism, all of it is ever changing in sync with genetics, playing out deterministically on large timelines with other species as well.

Just pick the lesser or two evils and enjoy the s~~~show.

[Anonymous 14]

BoB wrote:

You honestly can’t be both a fiscal conservative and social liberal.

This guy is clearly classic Tradcon or Christian Conservative. In fact, Bob and the likes of him are a dying breed. The Republican party voter base is moving away from Christian Conservative/Tradcon (Traditional Conservative) to Libertarian as time marches on as a huge base of what nearly got Ron Paul elected, and certainly got Trump elected are Libertarians, and this is growing at the ground level.

Libertarians are way more fiscally conservative than the religious conservatives, and they are completely socially liberal, not in a fiscal/socialism sense, but in the law making sense. Libertarians believe there should be no victimless crimes, drugs, whatever…It is all about the least amount of Government intrusion into all realms.

Murray Rothbard, Ayn Rand, Ron Paul, and Rand Paul would be some people to investigate.

Ron Paul is Christian by the way, he just happens to not be one of the full of s~~~ ones… And the non aggression principal is very much Rothbard and Ayn Rand as well. The Libertarian party is the only truly neutral party. Everybody else is about taking your s~~~ to further their agenda, they are all Collectivists. Libertarianism is the pushback to Collectivism.

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