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  • 2017-12-01 at 11:34 AM#679324

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    trailboss, I am seeing signs of some late teen pulling away in my older daughter on her blog and her you tube channel, and I think this is triggering something in side me to go help her somehow, let her know I am available if she reaches out to me. Problem is she doesnt have my phone number or email to contact me.

    maybe I’m reading too much into this, we all struggle at this age, dependent upon parents for some things and wanting independence.

    im sorry guys, this is taking up to much time and effort, ill just pack this away for a bit. more job search this afternoon.

    2017-12-01 at 11:40 AM#679328
    Badger
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    may:

    I think you would profit from reading just two other of de Mello’s books: Rediscovering Life, and The Way to Love. You can get cheap used copies on Amazon. Go to a Dollar Tree, Dollar General, or Walgreen Drugs and buy a gift card (Walmart doesn’t sell them, they are a competitor). A $25 one should do for the two books. Don’t purchase the tiny yellow copy of The Way to Love. Get the larger green hardback version.

  • Here is an excerpt from The Way to Love:

    It is your computer thanks to your programming that insists on your reacting with negative emotions….Observe all of this from the outside so to speak and see the marvelous change that comes about in you. For it will have become evident to you that real oppression comes, not from people who fight you in court or from authority that subjects you to slave labor , but from your computer whose programming destroys your peace of mind the moment outside circumstances fail to conform to its demands.

    An attachment isn’t a fact. It is a belief, a fantasy in your head, acquired through programming….Getting rid of an attachment is a perfectly delightful task if the instrument you use to rid yourself of them is not willpower or renunciation but sight. All you need to do is open your eyes and see that you do not really need the object of your attachment at all; that you were programmed, brainwashed into thinking that you could not be happy or could not live without this particular person or thing.

    • I am over 75 years old and am not a religious person, BUT
    Anthony de Mello is the ONLY religious person I have ever
    heard or read who really understands people and the problem people have or have created and how to get out of or solve them.

    Unfortunately de Mello then wanders off into mysticism and most people don’t care about that.

    Badger

2017-12-01 at 1:08 PM#679433
Joetech
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I got used to not seeing my daughter much after my divorce. She’d been crippled by a drunk driver because her mother didn’t believe in child car seats and she wanted a sportscar. I never hear from my daughter anymore and that also means I never hear from wife #1. It’s a tough tradeoff, but it is what it is. For many men, parenthood sucks. The women make it that way. Wait till the kids are older and their lives get all messed up and they end up moving back in with mom. SHE gets to take them to rehab and put up with the boyfriends with criminal records. Some day those girls may come find you. Maybe the DNA you passed on to them will kick in and they won’t turn into train wrecks, but I wouldn’t count on it. I’m reminded of a girl I dated who disowned her mother because she figured out when she grew up what a s~~~ her mom had been. Her father was number one in her life and her mother was cut off from all contact. The Bible says “Honor thy father and mother”, but it also says “provoke not thy children”. The empty space that’s left when you loose a child (and I buried my first son…premature..2 lbs. 9 oz’s.) stays with you forever. I think everyone has a dull throbbing pain inside them from something. We move on and learn to live with the pain of the losses we experience in life. It isn’t easy, but it’s doable.

"Don't follow in my footsteps...I stepped in something."

2017-12-02 at 5:34 AM#680146
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Suffering comes from attachment.

You are attached to a fantasy that you cannot achieve.

It may be achievable by your ancestors, hence the social and biological programming that hurt you.
It is not feasible in modern society.

Cast that chain out and focus on what can help you. Santa Clause will not exist simply because if you wish hard enough or explore enough chimney.

Learn to let go.

There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.

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