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Whats the thought on me just giving him 150$
You’ve already done more than enough for him. Just send him back the suit and don’t send him a damn thing more. Definitely don’t send him any money. That would imply to a court that you accept this obligation he is imposing on you, which would give him some grounds for going after the full amount plus legal fees (which are where he hopes to really profit).
Ghost these assholes and be done with it.
Oh, yeah I should add to, both are lawyers, they recently just bought a house for 800k, and she did NOT take his last name, meaning she is still rocking her maiden name…
So what’s the duration needed to establish a long term marriage where they are so she gets alimony? Five years? Ten years? Expect her to wait it out that long and then file for divorce the very next day.
What a scumbag. Give him nothing.
I would send him a link to mgtow.com and tell him you would have done him the favor of stopping his wedding, but this is EACTLY what he deserves.
Not saying you should. I’m saying I would.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Box it up and send it back.
Return receipt requested.
Wash hands.F~~~ it, toss in a dead fish!
The guy got married, so the dead fish is a little redundant.
Learn from the past, Control the present, and you will know the Future.
Problem with lawyers is they will try to sue you for anything
They like to threaten to sue, but there’s a huge difference between threatening to sue and actually suing. Most are just bullies trying to extort “legal fees” hoping you won’t call their bluff. So call their bluff. Tell them you will be filing a complaint with the state bar ethics commission if they don’t knock their s~~~ off. Inform them that you will also countersue for full legal fees, remuneration, plus punitive damages.
The risk of losing such a lawsuit, and the even greater risk of being disbarred for using the courts time for extortive purposes, is much more serious to them than the measly $500 for a crappy wedding suit that his bitch wife picked out for “her” wedding.
Nice advice. I’m gonna use this if the situation ever comes up around my way. Thanks sidecar.
Learn from the past, Control the present, and you will know the Future.
After reading the comments written by some smart people here, I might be inclined to pay the 500.00 and keep the suit.
You might be on the hook for the 500.00 (not sure). A lot of states recognize verbal contracts. And it is common etiquette for people to purchase suits for weddings. (I wasn’t aware of this)
I agree that you don’t want to get into a p~~~ing match with an attorney. You could always check with legal aid in your state, but actually hiring an attorney wouldn’t be cost effective. And if this did go to court I worry that this “friend” might try to nail you for expenses, which could potentially cost more than the 500.
Also agree with the comment: 1. No attorneys
2. No weddingsA) He gets the suit back. You do not spend one effing dime.
B) He doesn’t send address. Fine. F~~~ him. He gets no suit. No Dime.Do not give his c~~~ your resources! I mean the one he married, not the one he grew.
Do not allow her to groom you into being a s~~~ eater!"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."
You might be on the hook for the 500.00 (not sure).
He’s not. I saw my own lawyer today about something else, but I mentioned this case just to see what he thought. He laughed. Then he told me the groom doesn’t have a case. Apparently s~~~ like this happens all the time between brides and bridesmaids. What matters is who paid the shop. If the tailor was still owed money then the groom might have a case for at least part of it, but I understand the groom paid for the suit in full up front.
Normally bridal shops will make sure to get the individual bridesmaids’ credit card info etc. up front to charge them individually for their dresses before the dresses are sold. Any competent tailor would do this too. And even if the tailors were incompetent, the groom should have asked for @lightbringer‘s info up front himself. But he didn’t. So by paying for the suit himself ahead of time he was tacitly saying that he was bearing the price for it. He can’t just jump in completely after the fact with an: “Oh, by the way…”
A lot of states recognize verbal contracts.
But there was no contract here, verbal or otherwise. For there to have been a verbal contract the groom would have had to explicitly inform @lightbringer ahead of time of the cost and asked him for his payment info up front. He didn’t. @lightbringer didn’t know about any of this until after the fact, and the groom did pay for the suit himself.
And it is common etiquette for people to purchase suits for weddings. (I wasn’t aware of this)
@lightbringer wasn’t aware of it either. Neither are most people. So it’s not all that common after all, so it can’t be considered for even an implied contract. And courts don’t enforce etiquette anyways. Plus it would be a stupid argument for the groom to try to make in court thanks to the hypocrisy that goes with it. Tradition says that the ushers are supposed to pay for their own suits at the tailors, but the groom was fine with bypassing that tradition. Tradition also says the brides father is supposed to pay for the entire wedding reception, but I can guarantee that didn’t happen here (or the groom wouldn’t be strapped for a measly $500). The groom can’t make an argument based on traditional etiquette after picking and choosing what traditions to follow. And he sure as f~~~ can’t make the claim after the fact.
For what it’s worth, the groom is traditionally supposed to give each of the ushers / groomsmen a gift for their standing by him. @lightbringer can always claim in court that he assumed the suit was part of that gift because the groom had paid for it.
@lightbringer: My lawyer said if you’re still worried, you can try calling this guy. He does a radio call in show to answer legal questions. He’ll tell you your former friend doesn’t have a case, and you might even get your story broadcast over the radio. I’m not sure how you’d work it in but it would be cool as f~~~ to hear MGTOW mentioned on the air too.
questions? Do you want lies when it comes to friendships? Or truth where you may not have a lot of friends but you have self respect? Think about that?
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