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I propose you don’t think in terms of levels at all.
You either are a MGTOW or you’re not. There are no badges, no “power-ups”, no levels, none of the video game nonsense.
MGTOW is about life, about reality.
Start living.
Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.
Who f~~~ing cares if some of us identify as a level.Its not hurting anyone and at the end of the day we are all mgtow here.
THE PLANTATION HAS NOW TURNED INTO THE KILLING FIELDS . WOMAN ARE NOW ROLLING CAMBODIAN STYLE .
You clearly identify why “levels” are a bad idea in the first place, how can you use a arbitrary criteria based on set actions such as living in the woods to grade men in an environment where the whole point is to do you own thing.
Apparently some MGTOW facebook group (with a “leader” called Dave) already created a level 5 called “hardcore” or something, but as soon as I saw that, I rolled my eyes.
Yes yes I wasn’t being serious guys. Levels are dumb for all the reasons layed out.
I just seen the recent VICE article and I thought of what it must look like to an outsider…
Level 0- situational awareness. Level 1- No long term. Level 2- No short term. Level 3 and beyond- Crawl into a hole and die lol.
I agree levels are dumb. Everyone has their own way to go. And I’m not trying to one-up anyone or that. Just trying to motivate!
When I first decided to go Monk and stick to an occasional bang here and there, my first thought was never to shut down or hide in the woods. (though I can sorta see the appeal)
My first thought was IM FREE!!! I can do ANYTHING now!!! The world is my Oyster!!!
Not my property... Not my problem
Don’t take anything I say too seriously guys…
I’m just another retard on the Internet lol. I actually don’t think it’s a good idea to stick yourself into any “box”. As soon as you box yourself into “level x”, or “MGTOW”, or “christian”, or “conservative”, you become narrow-minded and limit yourself mentally.
Be nothing. Be something. Be whatever you want to be.
I just thought the whole levels thing beyond Level 3 seems kind of dumb- like without women theres only one way a guy can go… to the potato.
Level 3 and 4 seem to suggest that without women it’s time to go live in moms basement playing video games and eating cheetos…
I think Level 3 should sound more uplifting lol.
Sort of like the history of mgtow section that recently sprung up. I love it!
After Level 3 it gets ambiguous. Do whatever makes you happy!
Not my property... Not my problem
The MGTOW levels are f~~~ing stupid. I don’t adhere to them at all.
As far as ghosting goes I just stick to myself in real life and avoid any new relations~~~s/friends. I hate being around people, so I try to avoid them as much as possible.
Anonymous11If there are MGTOW levels, are there levels for blue pillers?
Easy:
1) The flowers, cards, and candy level.
2) The endless pussy chasing that wastes time level.
3) The string of dates that end abruptly at 845PM right after an emergency sick parakeet alert text level.
4) The beta wallet level.
5) Marriage level
6) Cuck level
7) Divorce raped level
8) Go back to Level 1 and repeat cycle level.Sort of like the history of mgtow section that recently sprung up. I love it!
That was added recently to finally put to rest a few of those common bulls~~~ misconceptions.
Level 3 and 4 seem to suggest that without women it’s time to go live in moms basement playing video games and eating cheetos…
Now if anyone says “MGTOW is just a fad” or “bunch of losers” living in moms basement, you can send them a link to that page.
Glad you noticed and enjoyed it.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Levels and labels aren’t my thing.
I just am, but to each their own.
Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.
Level
I don’t buy into any of that level s~~~. It sounds like something created by autistic f~~~~~s. And I know something about being an autistic f~~~~~ since I play RPG’s and JRPG’s.
But that s~~~ is full LARP.
Understanding female nature at a young age is a GIFT that I don’t intend to squander.
LEVEL 5 – Going Tesla: Spending 100% of my time developing and improving myself. Maximizing my human potential. Dreaming the biggest dreams possible and then making them happen. Mastering multiple talents. Solving some big problems in the world. Capitalist Domination of Earth.
Here is an extended repost of my answer to the same question in another thread.
I entered Level 5 around 1990. Since then “the women acceptance factor” for me is of no value at all. I started to do whatever I wanted to do, without the tiniest consideration what a woman might think about me…
Level 5 is for the “highly gifted” men that actually will never have the chance to get any woman at all. No matter how rich or good looking he is…
The worst thing a man can have to repel women is: Intelligence.
As much as they are silently attracted to criminal or violent behavior, they hate cleverness in a man.
Level 5 is what happens when women ignore you completely because everything else about a man is “out of reach” for them.
Most highly gifted men still ask themselves the question “Why doesn’t any woman like me?”
And it brings them down to deepest sorrow and dis-motivation.
That is why we are here:
If you have any superior capabilities, then stop worrying about women. They hate you for your cleverness. They hate you for your “goodness”.
Women want stupid men they can control. They hate you If you have the psychological “pair of tweezers” to cut though the fence of the plantation.
On any first date, women will ultimately “check you out” for the “qualities” she is looking for in order to be able to exploit your weaknesses.
I been told that by a female friend of mine, who works in between a big circle of women and despises them for what they say about men:
Women run a psychological scanner on you. Within seconds they know your every weakness. Then they can use these tender spots in your personality to “enter or break into your system” and start to run their agenda and intentions on you. Like a computer virus.
Women then take these men with the most weaknesses, the ones we tend to think that they are “alphas”. No, most violent and harsh men with a thug personality were in fact “overcontrolled” by their mothers and thus react to a woman’s controlling behavior.
Most thug men have “this alpha appearance” as a rebellion against their controlling mothers…
But they also have perfectly developed the “programming interface” that other women need to get them under their control…
But we MGTOW have gotten smart and so we are rejected by women. No matter have good looking, wealthy or “well equipped” we are.
If it were for that, I’ll be drowning in women. No bragging, they all tell me – and why don’t they want me?
Yes – Word by word:“You are too smart”
“You are no good for a relationship” (meaning slavery)
If I had known this as a child it would have raised my mood and motivation in such an enormous way that I might have become a billionaire by now. Even from fixing TV sets…
Not having this MGTOW “Tesla level” mindset, got me started “way later” in life. And so I ended up a “half millionaire” in Euro dimensions. Not all in cash, of course.
But it took me a “non P.C.” and auto-didactic “study course” in psychology to analyze and to get over the rejection by women.
Actually I was not even rejected, they ignored me as if I wasn’t there.Being 1,90 m / 6 foot 3 and strong blonde hair with big blue eyes… No accent, wearing expensive leather jackets and black jeans, not obese but not thin… And with a “lawyer’s suitcase” on his hands…
This is not the type women tend to ignore.
Of course, they all wanted to get to know me, and when they did, minutes later, I became “air” to them…
Sometimes at parties, they would behave in front of me like I am some kind of dead furniture. Talking to each other and gossiping out secrets about their men in a disgusting manner…
They thought, that I don’t exist.
Hamster wheel logic: “Oh, he is too underdeveloped to know what we are talking about”
I can write a book on that subject alone…
Yes, I was so underdeveloped that I sometimes went in between conversations and blew them away with my insights. And then they were completely intimidated.
So:
The more you get rejected or ignored by women, the more likely is is for you to become a MGTOW level 5 contender.
It is not your car, not your house, not even your financial status that keeps women away.
It is you, and your “human” capabilities. That’s what is called the “soft skills” and what takes you on a higher level of leadership.
If you are a real hero, putting out fires, saving people in accidents, reporting hazards…
… caring for things and creatures, and not always thinking about yourself……Then women will dislike you. They will “paint a blue sky” for you, call you superman, but still don’t want you.
But they can’t tell you that…
So they find any other reason. And when they run out of reasons to dislike you then they tell everybody that your dick is too small…
Then you run around, showing pictures… and asking them to ask the “girlfriend” from… (Or give the girl that started this rumor an XXL condom, asking to fill it for her… and don’t forget to add tabasco sauce)
And then you have a final enemy.
(Bearing damage on “hamster wheel unit” due to overclocking)
Women can never admit that they have a problem that makes them inferior to a highly gifted man.
Only a few women told me this in real honesty.
“If you want to get laid, play dumb” “They will jump on you”
But it doesn’t work so well if you are a well known public person where you live…
And it works for one night stands. In the morning she will have found out that you are not as dumb as she thought and leave before breakfast…
She will yell some blame shaming, although she was caressed, hugged, foreplayed, f~~~ed and afterplayed all night – like you only see in the “best of the romantic” movies…
And you can bet that a man who can fix and solder SMD chips on circuit boards with his bare hands also has the “tenderness” capabilities to drive a woman insane by “pressing all the right buttons the right way”…
So it’s most likely not you, it’s her.
Go for your life.
That’s all for now.
My book will get banned.
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
There are no levels.
You are either Going Your Own Way or you are not.
No marriage. No cohabitation. No children.
That is all.
Everything else is up to you.
This.
But, also
NO SPERM DONATIONSAnd this:
Agreed. It is either blue pill or red pill.
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Glad you noticed and enjoyed it.
I noticed it the day you started it. Fantastic.
What I would like to have is some kind of archive or “résumé” section in the profile.
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After Level 3 it gets ambiguous. Do whatever makes you happy!
That’s why the word “Tesla Level” is good. It doesn’t fit any numbering and boxing schemes. And everybody else knows what you mean. The “inventor-type” MGTOW…
100 % dedication and focus. Women just for distraction and entertainment…
I guess it is running in my family.
MGTOW at “Tesla level”…
My grandfather was in his home place in East Germany, before WW 2, the owner of a larger Mercedes and BMW car sales and repair shop.
They called him the “car professor” because he would find any and every problem and fix it.
In WW 2 he was employed to help in the development of guided U-Boat torpedoes and some parts of the V2 Rocket…
With today’s women he would have been a MGTOW. And I would not even exist…
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
So don’t go full retard because women will be all over you like ‘awww he’s so stupid. Never going full retard works!
Your 20's are for learning, your 30's are for earning.
But, also
NO SPERM DONATIONSI think that comes in under “No children.”
Denying women your time, effort and your assets is as good as it gets. Labeling yourself
to some enth degree is counter productive in my opinion.
The three afore mentioned conditions can be made as broad as you need them to be and will cover any angles women can come for you or at you. No need for monk code.
Live your lives to the fullest measure
Give them nothing and keep all you got.I am what I am and scars of life are a label
enough without any numbers.Zero Tolerance
I don’t buy into any of that level s~~~. It sounds like something created by autistic f~~~~~s. And I know something about being an autistic f~~~~~ since I play RPG’s and JRPG’s.
But that s~~~ is full LARP.
Err Mah Gerrd! This just made my day!
Consistency is victory - Ultra Magnus
Anonymous14What is a woman?
What is a woman?
Women have the value of “0” (Zero) and when you enter this into a mathematical function, at some point you will get a “division by zero” error and the machine will overflow and crash.
You can’t compare a woman with any of us.
For many of of us, they are not part of our life equation anymore. Nor do we “divide” anything with them in the future.
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
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