I don't know if I belong here.

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

I was nice before. I won’t be this time. If you don’t know why you’re here THEN YOU’RE A F~~~ING IDIOT FOR NOT KNOWING.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[Anonymous 6]

Keymaster wrote:

Travis3000 wrote:

Just my two cents here gentlemen, but the Original Poster’s “story” and follow ups has all the earmarks of a divorced wife

Goddam right. I would bet $20 on it too.

Great minds my brother, great minds!!!! Oh and I would also like to vote for a possible punt if this “person” doesn’t show back up and clear the air. Why? The shaming tactics. We don’t need that crap here. We’re here for support and healing, not BS. I also suspect that this is a false flag operation like I just mentioned.

Take it for what it’s worth.

[MarketWatcherParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

I would also like to vote for a possible punt if this “person” doesn’t show back up and clear the air

Agreed. It started well, but then it revealed itself.

[Can’t Stump TrumpParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

Oh and I would also like to vote for a possible punt if this “person” doesn’t show back up and clear the air.

I concur. I alerted the genie right away so I want my goddamn point.

Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.

[Heave-Ho MgtowParticipant 1797]

Catch and release. I think MGTOW all suspected that things did not seem right. Somehow the brotherhood looked beyond the flags and gave space, and then some, allowing the benefit of the doubt. Now things dictate that there should be a NFG response. If your not tuna, study.

skip the cavernous vag and go your own way

[Freedom Not SlaveryParticipant 508]

I find it sad he needs a woman to tell him she loves him, needs a woman to care for him when sick, and enjoys her feeding him. A man can take care of himself, and it’s one thing to not give up sex but to need or depend on a woman to hear “I love you” means he not only has not learned to be happy alone but requires a woman to give him affection.

Being single was not enjoyable for me for many years but I found all the people in relationships had no time to do what they really loved, their hobbies or passions were usually sacrificed for a “couples activity” and more often then not it was the man giving something up.

I think Wizer needs to find himself and learn to be happy on his own, the root of his troubles is “needing” a woman not just wanting one and being ok without. Do I enjoy sex ? hell yes but I value my freedom more which is why I will enjoy time with her but then we go our separate ways and live our own lives.

[AttonParticipant]

not ALL women are that way which is where that generalization (as do most) falls flat on it’s face.

Not all snakes are venomous that is indeed true but one would do well not to play with snakes.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[The Manipulated ManParticipant 1856]

Hello Wizer,

Your Introduction has generated a lot of excellent replies which are all fine examples of the hearts and minds of MGTOWs.

Alas, your views are too familiar. I have always found feminine women charming even after everything that has happened to me.

A lot of good men that I know in my personal life have expressed similar ideas regarding women. In spite of what they tell themselves, those men are really slaves in Blue Pill Hell.

The ideas you presented in your Introduction are really VEILS which prevent men from seeing the Truth about all women and our lives as manipulated men.

I have noticed that men with daughters have the hardest time lifting those Veils.

My Veils started lifting as a result of a spiritual awakening.

At some point after that, I read the book “The Manipulated Man” and I used it as a manual for understanding what was happening.

There are lots of books filled with this type of knowledge when you start digging for the Truth.

A few years ago, I was reading the complaints that an ancient Roman General wrote about his wife. He had the same problems with his wife as me a couple thousand years ago!

Thankfully, I found MGTOW.com

The knowledge, wisdom, and experience here on this web site is a gold mine. The opportunities for growth is wonderful, so keep digging.

Coming to understand AWALT is something that happens down the MGTOW road. It is a Truth seeking process. But, you must be willing to let go of nonsense, see poster below.

When you are ready, the proof will come from everywhere and will be timeless.

Here is a golden nugget:

Women’s Nature is something that is hardwired into all races of women throughout the ages.

What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?

[Pedal, run, rowParticipant]

There are worse things than Tuna swimming in these waters. And wizer is emblematic of that. Males who don’t care about the suffering of their brothers, and only come here to shame and mock them, who think of themselves as above us, should find no quarter here.
Be gone asshole.

[Pedal, run, rowParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

Just my two cents here gentlemen, but the Original Poster’s “story” and follow ups has all the earmarks of a divorced wife telling what happened to her now ex husband when she dragged him through divorce court or she’s relating a story of a man that she’s heard about through one of her female friends.

Really think about it folks, it’s an extremely plausible explanation.

Couple that with the “If men are dumb enough to kill themselves after getting destroyed by divorce and left without family, home and children, so be it. It is on them! I don’t care!” from the other thread, and I would say you are probably right.

Probably using a photo of her dead ex.
F~~~ing evil c~~~.

[Anonymous 6]

Pedal, run, row wrote:

Travis3000 wrote:

Just my two cents here gentlemen, but the Original Poster’s “story” and follow ups has all the earmarks of a divorced wife telling what happened to her now ex husband when she dragged him through divorce court or she’s relating a story of a man that she’s heard about through one of her female friends.

Really think about it folks, it’s an extremely plausible explanation.

Couple that with the “If men are dumb enough to kill themselves after getting destroyed by divorce and left without family, home and children, so be it. It is on them! I don’t care!” from the other thread, and I would say you are probably right.

Probably using a photo of her dead ex.
F~~~ing evil c~~~.

Or his Dad who helped foot the legal bill and dropped some quasi to full red pill crap on him. Think about it adds up in the grand scheme of this whole charade.

[Anonymous 5]

Anonymous wrote:

SpiritRR wrote:

For all those that say you can be in a relationship.

I can’t.

I won’t.

Because I can never again live with someone who has a gun to my head 24/7 365.

That’s the modern woman and the state.

She only has to make a phone call.

So, it doesn’t matter if she really wouldn’t.

It’s the fact she CAN.

Paranoid?

Not nearly enough.

Phone calls and false abuse charges with women has become standard M.O. with them.

We now have lawyers actually advising them to do this in event of divorce.

How many birds need to fall out of the goddam skies?

How old are you? I’m 23, I’m young as f~~~.

I have my whole life in front of me. I haven’t done anything in my life yet, so I gotta enjoy myself​. I like the wisdom you be spewing, but remember, we’re not the same. You enjoyed your life, but I haven’t.

Please, respect my opinion, and I will respect yours.

LMFAO, I was drunk…

[Anonymous 1]

[wizerSpectator 19]

I’m still here and I want to thank all of you for your replies and I will address all or most of them when I’m in front of my computer either this evening or when back at work tomorrow (posting this from my iPhone). The weather is too nice here in the NE US to be sitting in front of my pc but again thanks to those of you who are doing just that and have taken their time to read my posts and respond to them.

[AwakenedParticipant 35200]

wizer wrote:

I’m still here and I want to thank all of you for your replies and I will address all or most of them when I’m in front of my computer either this evening or when back at work tomorrow (posting this from my iPhone). The weather is too nice here in the NE US to be sitting in front of my pc but again thanks to those of you who are doing just that and have taken their time to read my posts and respond to them.

WHY would you bother to address all or most of the replies ??

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[wizerSpectator 19]

FrostByte wrote:

I was nice before. I won’t be this time. If you don’t know why you’re here THEN YOU’RE A F~~~ING IDIOT FOR NOT KNOWING.

I know I said I’d post later but I thumbed through a few pages and saw this one and felt compelled to respond even though it’s difficult on the phone. When you hit ‘quote’ you have to scroll all the way down to the bottom to find the reply box which isn’t easy on the small screen. Is there an app for this site?

Anyway I don’t think I said I ‘don’t know why I’m here’. You like so many are incorrectly paraphrasing me and misquoting me but I know that happens a lot when people have their feathers ruffled and they respond with knee jerk emotional half baked responses that lack any sort of reason and common sense.

What I DID say was that I don’t know if I “belong” as in “does my approach, attitude, and place in life especially in regard to women” align with the membership in general. Obviously I have received mixed responses, all of which are very helpful in providing me with the answers I requested.

[black_knightParticipant 2602]

Wizer……..

Wizer wizer wizer.

Wizer. Now there’s an old poster I haven’t seen for 10 years! You used to post on another forum I used. You look a touch older, but you look healthy! Are you still giving people free eye tests?

Yes, I remember you talking about your divorce, so I know you’re genuinely battle scarred. But you were constantly saying controversial things to get a response. It is of no surprise to me your intro here is 6 pages in the first day.

Don’t feed the troll people. I watched this guy rub everybody up the wrong way for 3 years.

[Can’t Stump TrumpParticipant]

black_knight wrote:

Don’t feed the troll people.

We’re not feeding him: just giving him enough rope to hang himself so KM can punt the c~~~ the f~~~ out of here. Gynocentric t~~~s don’t belong here.

Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.

[MrRightNowParticipant 26]

You’re not ready. Go do some more research. Tell us when you find your unicorn.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

wizer wrote:

Anyway I don’t think I said I ‘don’t know why I’m here’. You like so many are incorrectly paraphrasing me and misquoting me

We wasn’t quoting you – or misquoting you – at all. He made a statement that stands on it’s own and he could say that to anyone. “If you don’t KNOW why you’re here” – emphasis on “know”.

i.e.

“If you don’t know why you are here…. then you don’t belong here”.

The topic title is “I don’t know if I belong here”. Responding directly to that statement is not a misquote or a knee-jerk emotional reaction like you pretend.

wizer wrote:

Is there an app for this site?

Is there an app for your comprehension skills?

So you don’t hold with independent thought or MGTOW values. Take a number and get to the back of the line. It’s all been said a thousand times before and its’ completely transparent and has been already carefully deconstructed, because you lack the ability to do it yourself.

wizer wrote:

reason and common sense.

MGTOW IS — >> common sense for men, and it exists because “common sense” is not that common. Maybe we should create an app for that too.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

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