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This can be a loss you must go through with the reallity of red pill knowlage.But the reallity is that its an allusion we create in our own minds. What you yern for does not exsist.
The sadness will pass in time.
I find being out in nature helpful for healing of the spirit.
Give it time, be easy on yourself.
Life can be good with your own interest, and a Dog that loves you!Yeah, I know it does not exist. And I am not sad or anything, that’s the funny part. I just am. No sadness, no nothing. Like a calm lake.
I thought about getting out there for a while. Maybe I will.Hello brothers.
Swallowed the redpill 3 years ago. Each time I learned something I went out there and experiment. Everything was true and that killed me inside. A little more each time.
At my 26 years old I lost empathy for women. When I am with one I just see another animal like myself if not a leeser one. Another human who won’t love me like I once wanted to be. The feelings are lost because I know it’s just nature. Love are chemicals inside my brain trying to make me attached to her to breed. There is no higher goal there like I once thought. I can’t even hate them. I just learned the truth and can’t feel anything because I understand now.
I feel like my intellect surpassed my heart. I realized that women were a huge part of the energy that fuelled my motivation to acomplish things in life and losing the idealization I had for them completly killed my will to reach my goals. It’s like I am some kind of ghost, just floating.
The thing is I am living some kind of depression. I sleep a lot. I keep going to work out at the gym, reading and improving my skills at my work but there is something lost. I have no goals anymore. I am just there.
I know the key to move on is finding myself. Having killed the illusion of happiness I killed my old self too. I just don’t know who I am anymore or what I want from life.Did this happen to you?
(Sorry for my english)
This my friend, is not only a natural response to the maximum dose of red pills, it’s a response to the world we live in. Take a look around the world, everyone’s just trying to get by, most of them by pretending to care about a corporation that enslaves them. The average person is just going through the motions, a lot of the time, quietly hanging by a financial and emotional thread. We supposedly evolved into something greater than we used to be as humans, but people are cutting heads off, over religious disagreements.
Many of us men lost our identity, because identity turned into a s~~~storm. We thought we would grow up, have a loyal wife to spend our time with, then we learned this was a lie. We learned not only are modern females the most dysfunctional and corrupted generation of females in history, but we learned about female nature itself. Also factor in, men have been dehumanized. Every quality we had and still have, has been blasted to hell, by society, culture, media, feminism, and by men who hate their own gender.
To sum it up, they have done a fabulous job, of reducing the population, to tired, overworked, underpaid, corporate slaves. They have corrupted the human psyche, and crushed our spirits. They have made us feel powerless, and thus disconnected. Like you, i struggle to find any motivation to set goals. I struggle to find purpose, or meaning, day to day, night to night. It’s hard to have goals, when enthusiasm has always been met with rolls of red tape. So for now, i just keep doing what i’m doing.
That’s it, it’s everywhere. At first redpill was just about understanding women for me, but “the juice was not worth the squize” and the more I searched the more I learned. And the more I learned and applied those new concepts the less things mattered.
The thing is, I am not sad or anything. I am just like living life as if I am not there. I can’t feel because I understand, and nothing changes my mood. It’s weird.Afternoon Brother…We have all said something to this effect at one time or another, you are not alone here brother, your not…When we start down this road, our own paths, the first realization is that this can ONLY be done by yourself…And that of and in itself is an extraordinary lonely feeling and realization…But, this passes, in time…And I know that sucks really bad, especially at your age…As you get older time becomes a speeding bullet you just want to slow the f~~~ down, when your at your age it is a f~~~ing snail you cannot give enough meth too…Just life…I have found an extreme amount of solace in my two German Shepherds sir…From the moment you walk in the door, they are there to greet you tails wagging, and so happy your there, and FILLED with love ready to give you anything they can possibly give…And they so do…My two dog’s would lay down in the road and die for me, I s~~~ you not…That alone has replaced the lonely feeling I have, and literally gives me a reason to get out of bed each and every day…As far as the depression is concerned, there are some thing’s that may pick you up a bit…I am not sure what you enjoy, but a few ideas are a) go for a walk in nature, ie: lake, river, creek, mountain, hills, just a place where there are more trees and animals than people…b) Go to the local dog shelter or a dog kennel and look at puppies / not sure of your living condition but if you can get one! c) I know others will chastise the s~~~ outta me for this one, but here it goes anyway, purely because it works for me, so maybe it can for you too, I smoke a FAT joint when I get down, then I turn on a few Bill Burr videos, or Lewis Black…And just chill the f~~~ out….I always find my direction after smoking, it always helps me get back on my feet again…Anyway – – A few ideas, and there will be many more from the other brothers here…This is a tough, tough time sir, just hang in there, and keep coming back here, it helps too…We have been through this rough patch and most of us made it through it, no MATTER WHAT BROTHER, If you start getting a feeling like your going to hurt yourself – – – GET YOUR ASS IN HERE NOW AND SAY SOMETHING!!! WE WILL GET YOU THROUGH IT PERIOD!!! NO MATTER WHAT…No one in here wants to lose a brother to that s~~~, so again, if your feeling that down let us know, we can help you, a lot of us can, so….Hang in there, remember this s~~~ passes…Smile for the f~~~ of it every now and again too, it makes people wonder why your smiling, sometimes it is all I need to get me going…
Thank you for worrying brother 😀 But it’s not necessary, I am not sad or depressed. It’s like a depression of the ideas. It’s like nothing in life has weight anymore and I feel at peace but empty at the same time.
i’m old enough to be your dad..
you asked for it,
you got it .
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ROAD TRIP.
get the f~~~ out of dodge,
grab a few things and fuel up..
go west young man …
or east..
just GO.
road trips are epic points in your life that let you remember you are alive..
.
stop at a dinner in a small town,
the fat waitress takes your order..
go out and have a smoke,
go inside and eat..
.
get out and see the world around you.
you will be back inside yourself in a day or three…’s like a depression of the ideas. It’s like nothing in life has weight anymore and I feel at peace but empty
As many friends as I used to have brother, this is exactly why I was worried, but you know yourself better than anyone else…Just know if that ever comes brother we are here for you…Those ideas do not need to depress you sir…They are empowering ideas, enlightening ideas, freedom ideas, ideas that will guide you in the right direction, and give you the base you need to build a castle…A castle for all to envy…And by castle of course I mean you…I only wish I had the ideas you have at your age, when I was your age brother…I wish…Half my f~~~ing disability check goes to a gash for gash support…ugh….You are so far ahead of so many young men around you, and that alone should help repair the damage of taking your red pill…
Men are at a time when panning for gold in a urinal has a higher probability of success than finding a faithful and loving woman, it is time to go your own way.....
Did this happen to you?
Yes, it did.
Love are chemicals inside my brain trying to make me attached to her to breed. There is no higher goal there like I once thought
This truly is a rude awakening. Hundreds of thousands of years of evolution has seen to that. Think about it for a second. Why on god’s green earth would any sentient mammal pair bond, devote the time, energy and resources to having offspring, unless “feel good” chemicals were released?
We are all just chasing our next addictive high. This explains why educated men, get married again and again and again knowing the likely outcome.
I feel like my intellect surpassed my heart. I realized that women were a huge part of the energy that fuelled my motivation to acomplish things in life and losing the idealization I had for them completly killed my will to reach my goals. It’s like I am some kind of ghost, just floating.
Yes. Pussy is a powerful motivator.
I became a physician, in part, because I was under the delusional society programming that a wife and children were the brass ring – allowing me to attract a superior mate. I have struggled with a similar lack of motivation since my sudden divorce.I know the key to move on is finding myself. Having killed the illusion of happiness I killed my old self too. I just don’t know who I am anymore or what I want from life.
Did this happen to you?
Yes!!!.
Almost 3 years since divorce/forced freedom and I was struggling with this not too long ago. Marriage is institutionalized slavery.You will wake up one day and it will suddenly dawn on you that you are free. Do what you want, when you want, with no ulterior motivation. For me the key has been to switch my motivation. Starting a family and getting married (again) in today’s society is financial suicide. I will follow my passions and enjoy life to the fullest.
It broke down like this 912 dollar per sex act, 3x a month which on the average this what she cost me. Where I live in Arizona $912 will buy you a lot of pussy and much better quality than what I used to.
Brother that is what I calculated over my 6 year relationship (including 2 years of marriage). About $1000.00/act. Imagine the top shelf pussy I could have with that? Sickens me. lol
- Marriage is described as an institution. You would have to be crazy to be commited to it. -"If you want to live a happy life, tie it to a goal. Not people or things" Albert Einstein
. I realized that women were a huge part of the energy that fuelled my motivation to acomplish things in life and losing the idealization I had for them completly killed my will to reach my goals. It’s like I am some kind of ghost, just floating.
The thing is I am living some kind of depression. I sleep a lot. I keep going to work out at the gym, reading and improving my skills at my work but there is something lost. I have no goals anymore. I am just there.
I know the key to move on is finding myself. Having killed the illusion of happiness I killed my old self too. I just don’t know who I am anymore or what I want from life.Hi, Ignis!
Just some thoughts, hope they can help some!
You’re going through an existential crisis. The core of your problem is your identity. You have probably gong through some horrible s~~~ as a young kid, resulting in you self-hatred. You’ve been s~~~ on for so long that you’re (unconsciously) internalized the poisonous idea that you’re NOT GOOD ENOUG, and basically UNTRUSTWORTHY. But everyone needs hope to survive. So you’ve SEARCHED FOR HOPE OUTSIDE of yourself, but you NEVER REALLY FOUND IT. You’ve been chasing a dream, as others cannot give you what you can only find in yourself. Even the new knowledg of learning that your self-worth has been destroyed, and you’ve been brainwashed into becoming your own enemy will not help you now.
You need to:
1. forgive yourself
2. Don’t underestimate the s~~~ you’re in, and don’t shame yourself to man up or anything
3. Listen to Turd Flinging Monkey’s last videos about zero f~~~s given
4. You must ACCEPT the price of freedom: it will hurt!
5. Realize you don’t need anyone!
6. Embrace the pain of isolation until you learn you CAN live alone.
7. Don’t do what makes you happy, but everyday do things that YOU decide gives meaning to YOUR life => self-worth will automatically increase
Gotto catch my train now!
LATER!Thank you very much for this. I am familiar with TFM videos, I listened to that one just yesterday.
There is some truth in what you say. I think I have to work on points 1, 4 and 5.
Again, thank you for this.i’m old enough to be your dad..
you asked for it,
you got it .
.
ROAD TRIP.
get the f~~~ out of dodge,
grab a few things and fuel up..
go west young man …
or east..
just GO.
road trips are epic points in your life that let you remember you are alive..
.
stop at a dinner in a small town,
the fat waitress takes your order..
go out and have a smoke,
go inside and eat..
.
get out and see the world around you.
you will be back inside yourself in a day or three…This advice is simple and epic. I think I will be going out there for a while.
Thank you.My advice to you, Ignis
Go out into the wilderness. The air in the “deep” forest will “restructure” your brain and take many evil things out.
Minimum 2 hours every two days, will work. Or more.
Sometimes this “clogged” up feeling of emptiness comes from Oxygen deficiencies in your metabolism. And if parts of the brain get too little oxygen, the “highways” of thought are blocked.
But the “side effects” from the daily “red pill capsules” will persist for a while.
Mine was in 1990 and it lasted until late 1992…Back then, I had my psychology books and you now have the internet and all of us.
MGTOW is like the 11th commandment.
In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim
Get married…then you’ll really have something to complain about, better yet a wise man learns from others mistakes while a fool learns from his own, so just watch how miserable men in relationships are.
When the war cemeteries are half full of the corpses of dead conscripted women, only then will women have earned the right to speak of equality. Sidecar “A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do.” - Bob Dylan
Dude you can’t be red pilled and think about things that go in circles, there’s little point in that and it goes nowhere which then f~~~s with your mind and thus you created this topic as a result. As others mentioned, try being more active, physically and intellectually, otherwise this perpetual cycle of disappointments and [borderline] nihilism will eat you inside out.
There’s so many things you can do in life then questioning things that were meant to be, in this case women’s trickery and deceit. And who said you can’t see women as MGTOW? Just be more careful this time and don’t fall for their BS — it’s all a game of politics with these bitches, really.
To be red pilled you have to make huge adjustments in your life and though you may notice patterns in life that are predictable that does not mean you have to fret about it. The first rule is to take care of yourself, including the most important of all mental health, and to learn and grow stronger from the mistakes made in life.
I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again, the red pill isn’t for everyone because I’ve seen people get to your state of mind and never move forward from it and bad experiences happened as a result.
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64 years old
I can’t say it any better than what has already been said but I can say this. Buying and riding a motorcycle (Can Am Spyder RT) is my form of therapy.Here is a saying that helped me:
You never see a motorcycle parked outside a psychiatrist’s office.Agreed.
The thing is I am living some kind of depression. I sleep a lot. I keep going to work out at the gym, reading and improving my skills at my work but there is something lost. I have no goals anymore. I am just there.
Let me ask you a question: is the problem that you lost your goals or that you found out that there are none?
It is easy to be to busy with the dramas of a blue pill life. We know what we are supposed to achieve, and we believe others are happy to have it.
But as everything else in life, it is an ilusion. No goal will give a PERMANENT HAPPINESS, even if fully achieved.
We just have to think on the bike we wanted as kids, or that car we saved to have. Where we happy to get it? Sure! But how long?
MGTOW only takes away the illusion that we can have happiness through women. The following collapse of all goals is the result of to much of our identity and efforts that where assigned into getting and maintaining a female.
In a sense it is the end of a world. Everything that used to matter suddenly doesnt have value.
But in reality none of these goals was going to achieve happiness. What we got was better, it was the liberation from expectations and constraints.
Now you are truly a free man, not bond by a desire that only brings slavery.
Is there some replacement for a new goal of the same caliber? Why would we want it? As a slave changing masters?
There is no goal, so you do not have to strain to reach one. You can be in peace.
There is no long term achievement that will bring everlasting happiness, but there are plenty of momentary pleasures that will bring you a sustainable happiness.
Riding a bike. Flying an airplane. Driving off-road. Walking in the wilderness. Crossing a desert.
Why do this? Only because we like it. It brings us real contentment. It is justified only by our pleasure.
AND NOBODY CAN TELL YOU THAT YOU SHOULD NOT INDULGE YOURSELF IN WHAT YOU LIKE.
That is true happiness..
Exactly.
My only addition is to be forgiving and patient with yourself. It took me until midlife to discover, swallow, and digest the Red Pill. Unfortunately it was post marriage and kids.
Still, despite going through the Red Pill Rage and the stages of grief, this is literally the best period of my entire life, because like you I learned the truth. And the truth is what sets one’s spirit free.
"Love is the delusion that one woman differs from another" - H. L. Mencken
I think your dead on.
The numbness feeling for me is coupled with observation.
I liken it to being over a playing field like a football stadium.
The men in the stands are spectators. Those that choose to enter the field of females are in the game.
It’s a hovering sensation where you are watching the field below and know the outcome.
Peace brothers
I too feel mostly nothing nowadays, and it is better than the negative feelings that surrounded me for years. I cope with the disappointments in life by keeping active. I have a large yard and garden that always need something to be done. I read every day and I play at least one musical instrument every day. I have always enjoyed cooking and now, it is for myself. I make and adjust my recipes until I have them just right, and then they go in the rotation of large dishes prepared for the freezer in portions. Good luck to you. I come here most days to read and sometimes share. Eyes wide open and numb is a superior position than eyes closed and open to the manipulations of society at large.
I can empathize. The disillusionment that comes from realising the true nature of things has led to a sort of apathy in me. Even aside from the red pill I’ve been mostly just going through the motions for years now, due to problems brought about by trusting women.
Ignas, you are clearly in stage 4 of the 5 stages of grief/loss: Stage 1: denial, Stage 2: Anger, Stage 3: Bargaining, Stage 4: Depression, Stage 5: Acceptance.
It is just as easy to get stuck in the depression stage as it is to get stuck in the anger stage. I would suggest that you are still in the depression stage because some part of you still wants to hang on to the idealized concept of love and women; it’s not unusual because you’ve been feed this concept from the day you were born. When you can detach yourself from a life time of propaganda, when you recognize that the only thing in this life you have control over is your own actions, then you will find yourself in the acceptance phase, and then, you will rediscover the joy in life.
You have seen plenty of good advises from the other brothers, but let me add something.
Seems that you found your way and traveled deep in it, but now you are lost and don’t know what direction to take anymore. you have to find yourself.
but goals in life are something greater than making a woman happy in her life or merely reproductive purpose,
try:
make something for someone you care: visit your family, your brothers, call your friends, just to appreciate them and show that you are happy they exists. (but also organize something with your buddies, like camping, traveling, concerts, whatever)
make something for someone you can help: rescue a dog from a shelter, give some food and a shower to a homeless person (it can be a brother, who knows!), buy toys for an orphanage, whatever you feel like.
make something for the community: volunteer in a soup kitchen, or in some charity that YOU find useful, or even, put on a small company and give a job to 2 or 3 good guys, their salary and so their life will depend on you!
and especially, do something for yourself, find a relief from the heaviness of the “big red pill”: there are no goals, YOU and only YOU have to build and achieve your goal in your life.
here some examples: try different sports, just for fun, and then improve yourself in one of them.
gardening: oh that’s cool as hell, plants are really helpless creatures that you have to care a lot, seeing them in good shape gives a very good sensation (and some healthy veggies). this in particular helped my father go trough his terrible divorce, and now he’s a monster at it.
improve your knowledge, study science: science is awesome and setting up little experiments is very fun, ant then, it’s almost infinite, the more you know, the more you want to know.
biking, camping, nature, traveling have already been said and they are all good. doing that, find someone that share your interests, it will be even more great.and than, if is the spiritual part of yourself that you feel empty, fill the gap with some philosophy (other than MGTOW, we already have the best one), as example Asian philosophies, that will maybe enlighten you on the concept of karma, and nirvana, in which you are really close.
but remember, spirituality is made from 2 components: searching your true self, and feeling part of a community.at last, even if I enjoy smoking a joint and/or get drunk from time to time to chill and enjoy my life, I will suggest not to do it during depression medications. it can be dangerous!
sorry for the long reply. take care, and Cheers!
I’d like to say that at 30 years of age I am experiencing pretty much everything you have described here. Completely lack of empathy for most women, and friends whom I haven’t heard for years since they gotten married.
It does feel like the old you is dead, but to rebuild a new you will take some time just like a brick house. Piece by piece. Like some suggested, nature walks are a great way to reconnect with the spirit.
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