I can't even see the bar!

[BeerParticipant 11832]

Christov wrote:

I believe that a woman’s inflated value is based on the quality of man that will dick her.

For instance… A very good looking guy 8/10 will f~~~ a 5/10 if he is bored.

That conveys to a woman that she can “get” a 8/10 guy.

Unfortunately, there is a non-stop line around the block of 8/10 guys who will stick their dick in this woman once and leave her…. That makes her think that she has an endless supply of 8/10 guys to choose from for a relationship.

But that’s not the case. Men will not love a woman who is beneath their level of self respect.

That leaves women to ride the c~~~ carousel, endlessly. Maybe desperate to get off, but no good options to do so. Finally she says… “What can I do to keep him?!?”

“Maybe if I am carrying his child, he will love me.”

Sad thing is when they realize what they are doing and want to find a decent guy who will respect them and settle down with them, all those decent guys are just like “LOL WHORE.” and want nothing to do with her. Hope the carousel ride was worth it!

[AncientwisdomParticipant 6089]

The worst thing about online dating is that women seem to demand standards in men that they’re incapable of upholding themselves

This.

Women treat online dating as a menu at a fine dining establishment; whats even worse is it is a self-written menu. They come to the table, write down their PRECISE specifications of the perfect five course meal, then press “send”. They dont realize there is no gourmet chef on the receiving end to produce her whimsical wishes.

They honestly treat it that way. What makes it worse is you have guys who are ONLY looking to get their dick wet. So these girls see 100+ email replies and this boosts their egos and substantiates their inflated ideas of how fantastic they are.

Have you EVER refered to yourself as a “prince” or a “king”? Can you imagine the mindset? These girls call themselves princesses or queens. Its insane!

OP dont use dating sites looking for a chick you would take seriously. Its just going to beat up your ego. Ive used sites for hook ups, but its so time consuming and a cess pool.

Im sure all of us can attest from personal experience: you can EASILY get a girl 10x better looking to be attracted to you in real life than online. Not only because online is it more passive for them, expecting Mr. Perfect, but virtually all women romantisize about the spontenaity factor (“oh the stars were aligned just right and we were MEANT to meet”) and the emotional/spark factor that cant really be replicated in an online experience.

Do yourself a favor and get off of them. Men get a beating on their ego while conversely women get an un needed boost.

Resident cynic.

[Anonymous 12]

A typical summary of what women want as compiled from various profiles I have seen over the years.

” I want a man who is sensitive but tough when he needs to be, a man who can put me in line but is still caring and romantic. A man who can bake a souffle and yet also build a deck. A man who is wealthy and powerful in his own right but is a Feminist and not arrogant or c~~~y. A well spoken and intelligent man who toes the line but is independent and self assured. A man who is sexually virile but doesn’t want sex all the time. I want a man who believes in social justice provided it is PC approved and doesn’t mean men having any rights at all. A man who will know what I want, before I want it and when he delivers and he doesn’t show disappointment in how I have changed my mind already.”

[GrumpyParticipant]

Anonymous wrote:

A typical summary of what women want as compiled from various profiles I have seen over the years.

Yup..
I may be a bit screwy, but they read like a cross between the Amazing Kreskin, Mr. Clean, The Hulk, and Al Borland.
All these demands from someone with the attractiveness of Jabba the Hut

Ironically…I’d settle for one word across the whole spectrum of demands…REASONABLE

There was a time in my life when I gave a fuck. Now you have to pay ME for it

[BeerParticipant 11832]

Ancientwisdom wrote:

Im sure all of us can attest from personal experience: you can EASILY get a girl 10x better looking to be attracted to you in real life than online.

Yes…this is one of the things I took away from online dating as well. You end up thinking you won because a 6 replies to your email, yet if you go hang out at any random local bar you could go chat up 8s with better results, and quite honestly the caliber of woman you’ll more than likely end up meeting online is about the same as a bar fly.

If you want to expand your circle a bit the best way IMO is to join local groups…maybe a hiking group, a dog walking group, a biking group, some sort of co-ed athletic league, a church group, sign up for some local classes(art, cooking, yoga, etc)…whatever interests you. You might meet some single girls, or maybe just some coupled people with single friends they’ll bring around you if you end up getting friendly with them. Its so much better this way…you get to go out and do something you actually enjoy doing instead of trolling dating sites, and you actually get to meet people face to face instead of playing the dating site email and ignore game.

I played in a co-ed league this summer…I initially just signed up for a night out…get a little exercise, have a few beers kind of thing. I ended up hanging out with the team quite a bit this summer outside of game nights, and many a time a friend of a friend of someones would tag along.

I ended up shooting the s~~~ with 4 different girls met this way over the course of this summer who said they were on online dating sites. I’m not really interested in dating at this point in my life, but I’m pretty sure I could have f~~~ed one easily(but she struck me as a massive slut, and it was verified by one of the other guys there who had known her for a while I got to be buddies with), two I’m pretty sure I could have gotten a date with if I got their numbers and pursued it a bit, and one seemed completely disinterested. Potentially 3/4 success ratio with girls all involved with online dating(probably all in the 7-8 range…none of them were knockouts but they were all better looking than average), but had I sent them all messages on some s~~~ty dating site I’d have been lucky to get 1 reply, and maybe 1 date. If I ever feel the age for a female in my life its nice knowing there is such an easier way to meet chicks than online dating or bar hopping.

[RusskyParticipant 13503]

Analyzing it retrospectively, every time I engaged in online dating, I could feel the juices leaving my soul, and the resulting void quickly and surely being refilled with misery.
It’s like a two-way protocol for exchanging power and misery

proud carrier of the 'why?' chromosome

[MyselfParticipant 353]

Online dating was an amazingly bad experience for me. I went into it totally naive. My intentions were to just meet new women, go on as many dates as possible, and have some good conversations.

It’s funny because I had this picture in my head about what kind of women I would meet. It was a picture that was largely informed by the media, by feminism. I assumed that there would be lots of women my age who have been busy with their career’s, and who finally decided they wanted to settle down with a guy who has been busy doing the same. I figured if I went to a paid site that would keep the crazy’s out and up my chances of finding someone with their s~~~ together. It turns out that the type of woman I was expecting to find by the hundreds are incredibly rare.

You can be an honest good looking guy with a career and still get next to nothing from these sites. You’ll spend hours of your time crafting messages that largely go unanswered. Meeting women in person is MUCH easier.

[Anonymous 12]

Grumpy wrote:

Morlock wrote:

A typical summary of what women want as compiled from various profiles I have seen over the years.

Yup..
I may be a bit screwy, but they read like a cross between the Amazing Kreskin, Mr. Clean, The Hulk, and Al Borland.
All these demands from someone with the attractiveness of Jabba the Hut

Ironically…I’d settle for one word across the whole spectrum of demands…REASONABLE

That always gets me too, hot chick making demands ok f~~~ her but it makes sense, ugly stupid woman making demands – WTF!!??

[eng_87Participant 122]

It took a total of 1 day for me to cancel my subscription….f~~~ing ridiculous – and the funny thing is, everything everyone said in these threads was true! Every bloody single thing, from how profiles read etc.

Ugh. I’m just gonna continue doing what the lads on here suggested, throwing myself into my hobbies and passions.

[BritGHOWParticipant 2566]

eng_87 wrote:

So, now that I’ve been MGTOW for a little while (sic 4 months – and to be honest I’m still learning and struggling to find my feet in this way of life – 28 years of blue pill life is hard to shake) – I decided to sign up to some online dating, not for want of a relationship – just to work on my game, learn a bit more about the psyche of the average front bum and spread the net a bit further for possible lays. And this is what my reaction was:

WTF

The bar these women set is high, like unreasonably high. One lady wrote, he needs to be charming, funny, tall (6ft +), intelligent, employed with a good salary, financially secure, into travelling and wining/dining etc etc. Sorry darl, if he’s all of that, he ain’t gonna be on here.

Surely, SURELY, this must be a conscious delusion of grandeur, or are women so indoctrinated into their own image of princess-dom?

I can’t believe the stuff I’m reading.

Madness.

There are two great ironies here:

First I personally meet all of her standards bar two, but while I could be persuaded into wining and dining if I thought I might actually get something of equal value in return I’m not aware of any medical process which will grow me past my 5’11, sucks to be me I guess. I suppose I’ll just have to keep my charming and fun nature for those close to me, my intelligence for my work and my good salary job, financial security and travelling to myself. I’m sure someone somewhere would call me selfish for that but hey, I didn’t write the standard.

Second, she has all these standards, but any man daring to have standards of his own best be prepared for the hordes of hell to descend on him, a man with standards? you evil, sexist, misogynist, slut shaming, body shaming…zzz…

Sorry, dozed off for a minute there. Personally faced with that list, if she isn’t 5’8-5’10, size 8-10 32B-34C slim-athletic build, with a BMI of 22 max, with her own life, job and career prospects and financial security willing to pay her own way both at home and when travelling and be warm, loving and affectionate at all times including sex at least 4 nights a week she’s not even getting an email. Even then I’d give it second thoughts if she’s not a redhead.

[I_Walk_AloneParticipant 580]

Anonymous wrote:

Grumpy wrote:

Morlock wrote:

A typical summary of what women want as compiled from various profiles I have seen over the years.

Yup..
I may be a bit screwy, but they read like a cross between the Amazing Kreskin, Mr. Clean, The Hulk, and Al Borland.
All these demands from someone with the attractiveness of Jabba the Hut

Ironically…I’d settle for one word across the whole spectrum of demands…REASONABLE

That always gets me too, hot chick making demands ok f~~~ her but it makes sense, ugly stupid woman making demands – WTF!!??

This is exactly why I don’t date anymore. Jabba The Hutt on welfare demaning a ripped, jacked and sucessful guy. In my case I had fatties messaging me to compliment me on my body/gym devotion and then in the space of two-three messages turn nasty and abusive when I explained that their lifestyle probably wouldn’t be compatible with mine.

[hdvrodParticipant 1109]

I’ve been on POF for a couple of weeks now, not the upgraded version, just the free version. I’ve had about 70 women wanting to meet me but I can’t see who they are without the upgrade. I have no intention to upgrade to a paid subscription. If I want to meet someone and they are also interested in meeting me, I can see who they are. So far I have about 20 of those matches. However, I have no intention of ever seeing them. They might be good looking but, without exception, they are all so demanding that I laugh out loud when I read their profiles. And most of them are probably not real profiles either.
My favorite; “I’m a proud single mom of 3 kids and they mean all to me. My date must love children and respect my need to devote my time to them.”
I bet the line is snaking around the block with all the men eager to have even a smidgen of a chance to become her wallet 🙂
My profile says I’m in Executive Mgmt and make 150,000+. I travel all the time and I’m a philanthropist. Just to f~~~ with their stupid little minds.

Anyway communication, real open communication, is not wanted or even required in a relationship. Women cannot handle fully open and honest communication, plus most perceive it as a weakness on the part of a man. All that is required is catering to her whims, and even then nothing is certain. There is no way to be sure of having a successful relationshit with a woman. MGTaoist

[ThomasQuinnParticipant 50]

I have found way to many demands/wants/looking for lists from sub par 5/10 and 6/10 women. They will never get anything they list. Sorry that they hit the WALL and/or just are not pretty enough to be able to pull it off through ONLINE dating.

I find it insane that these average 25-35 yr old women are actually compiling a list as if they are Some “A-list” hollywood 19yr old slut.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

Do online dating sites let you see how long a woman has had an account? I’ve never checked, but I wouldn’t be at all surprised if most of these women have been on these sites hoping for Prince Big Wallet for YEARS. And still haven’t worked out what they’re doing wrong.

[I_Walk_AloneParticipant 580]

Many examples of such specimens contained within the link below:

https://voat.co/v/choosybeggars

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