I am seriously considering a vasectomy

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

Red_Pill_Soulja wrote:

Can you elaborate on why it p~~~es the majority of women off?

1) females see “reproductive rights” as a women’s issue and they believe they own the power to decide if and when a baby gets made

2) females see entrapping a man with a child as a socially acceptable and effective means of securing a nearly endless stream of unearned resources for themselves

3) for a man to take control of his own reproductive power and to make himself immune to entrapment by baby steals from females 80% of their weaponry in their battle to get free s~~~ and blame everything on the men who give it to them

Even if they have no intention of tying you down with a baby themselves, their own-group preference tells them no other woman will be able to do so either and that makes you essentially a ronin… a soldier without a master… a loose cannon… a wild horse that can not be broken and made to hand over the fruits of your effort for nothing.

This is DEEPLY offensive to women because it conjures up in their minds a world where NO man can be broken, yolked or saddled and women are left to fend for themselves and to wither and die helpless and alone.

[Red_Pill_SouljaParticipant 221]

Stargazer wrote:

Red_Pill_Soulja wrote:

Can you elaborate on why it p~~~es the majority of women off?

1) females see “reproductive rights” as a women’s issue and they believe they own the power to decide if and when a baby gets made

2) females see entrapping a man with a child as a socially acceptable and effective means of securing a nearly endless stream of unearned resources for themselves

3) for a man to take control of his own reproductive power and to make himself immune to entrapment by baby steals from females 80% of their weaponry in their battle to get free s~~~ and blame everything on the men who give it to them

Even if they have no intention of tying you down with a baby themselves, their own-group preference tells them no other woman will be able to do so either and that makes you essentially a ronin… a soldier without a master… a loose cannon… a wild horse that can not be broken and made to hand over the fruits of your effort for nothing.

This is DEEPLY offensive to women because it conjures up in their minds a world where NO man can be broken, yolked or saddled and women are left to fend for themselves and to wither and die helpless and alone.

Thanks for the detailed explanation.

I can see now that having children is a way for women to trap a man into lifetime imprisonment. It’s their way to get out of having a job. They can also take less responsibility for themselves in general i.e. getting fat and unhealthy after giving birth. If they get fat they can just blame it on the birth of the child and this is acceptable in society.

My view of women is constantly changing due to MGTOW discussions and videos. At the moment I see them as schemers trying to trap the highest value man they can get.

[505vikingoParticipant 521]

Had my vasectomy procedure in 2001. Best decision I ever made. I love it! No complications experienced, has saved me on several occasions, and has improved my forays into the pink depths tremendously. I highly recommend this fine investment in your MANhood. Don’t delay, get it done today.

[sidecarParticipant 35860]

Stargazer wrote:

It’s typical zero sum thinking to believe that if one person in a deal gets something they want, the other person must lose something they don’t want to give up.

Exactly this.

It’s also incorrect thinking to believe that sex is some sort of deal to be made in the first place.

When I have sex with a woman the benefit to me is the entertainment of having sex with her. And the benefit to her is she gets the entertainment of having sex with me. I get orgasms. She gets orgasms. We both benefit. The sexual act is itself a benefit. If I am using her for sex then she also also using me for sex right back.

But if she somehow believes that she is also entitled to my labor, my wealth, my protection, my genes, or anything else of mine above and beyond the many orgasms I provide her, well then she is sadly f~~~ing mistaken.

Why should any man be held accountable for the mistaken beliefs and unfounded expectations of women? A vasectomy, and the documentation that goes with it, helps ensure that he isn’t.

[kbbroilerParticipant 886]

I did it and I have no regrets what so ever. I’m 45 and I knew as early as 23 I did not want to have kids with a woman.

You’re better off and you have more control over your fate. You have options to freeze sperm or adopt if you change your mind.

[TGMParticipant 55]

Even if you’re not sexually active and have no desire to get laid, it’s still a good idea. Plus, bitches can rape too and the state will make male victims pay child support.

[VarunParticipant 2981]

sidecar wrote:

Doc Fenderson wrote:

It’s typical zero sum thinking to believe that if one person in a deal gets something they want, the other person must lose something they don’t want to give up.

Exactly this.

It’s also incorrect thinking to believe that sex is some sort of deal to be made in the first place.

When I have sex with a woman the benefit to me is the entertainment of having sex with her. And the benefit to her is she gets the entertainment of having sex with me. I get orgasms. She gets orgasms. We both benefit. The sexual act is itself a benefit. If I am using her for sex then she also also using me for sex right back.

But if she somehow believes that she is also entitled to my labor, my wealth, my protection, my genes, or anything else of mine above and beyond the many orgasms I provide her, well then she is sadly f~~~ing mistaken.

Why should any man be held accountable for the mistaken beliefs and unfounded expectations of women? A vasectomy, and the documentation that goes with it, helps ensure that he isn’t.

This is exactly what I have said. You cannot ‘get’ female companionship without her getting ‘male companionship’. If you ‘use’ her for sex, you don’t just drag her into a room, pull down her pants and stick your dick inside her; nope.

First you have to approach her, court her properly, make her feel ‘worthy’ and ‘special’..forgive the fairy-tale talk.

Its not like only one party gets to have the dopamine shots; both of them do.

Mr. Bob says that someone like doc just ‘uses’ women when he haves sex with them.

No he doesn’t. I’m pretty sure there’s a lot of work involved.

Apart from the sex, if is doc has a really good social image, she even gets to make the other women jealous by having successfully bagged ‘a successful man’. Don’t even mind the one-night freebies like free drinks, dinner and breakfast. Aren’t those benefits too?

It just doesn’t make sense when you say you ‘use’ women. Maybe in their language it does, because women always want more out of everything. More out of a relationship, more commitment, more time for her, more money and more pleasure.

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

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