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With all due respect to my bros, clinical depression is something you just can’t “snap out of” or run off at the gym. From carefully reading your description, bro, you need some help. Go see your doctor for an evaluation. This may or may not result in medication or therapy. While many do not advocate the use of meds, when they are properly used, they can manage your depression and vastly improve your quality of life. If you had a serious heart condition, would it not be wise to see your doctor and look at treatment options? I’d suggest slowing down, taking things one step at the time, and ask yourself “what do I need” as often as necessary until this passes. I hope this is a help to you, I have been in the EXACT same boat as you and it SUUUCKS, but it WILL pass. P.s. ditch the married chick, it’s unhealthy and not worth the potential trouble..
Anonymous13I have money but it means nothing and goes away faster than s~~~ when I’m depressed, I have two kids I can’t see whom I was attached to and I love, apparently ptsd (some war related), bipolar disorder, I have an addictive personality – alcoholism – opiate addiction and yeah sex addiction.
How I deal:
Go to AA meetings.
Talk to co-workers.
Ask co-workers out – chill with them when you get the chance – FORCE yourself to.
Go to Narc Anon meetings.
Look up dumb s~~~.
For example, I just googled “what are the nutritional ingredients of strawberries” (surprisingly there isn’t as much sugar as I expected) It gets your mind off of the bad s~~~ and you learn something at the same time.Work out.
I saw that one mentioned – treat your body like a temple – but at the same time working out can replace the masochist tendencies people seem to have when they are like us – f~~~ing depressed. I listen to some hard s~~~ and/or motivational s~~~ and I PUSH MY BODY TO THE LIMITS. And I guarantee I don’t think I “need” anyone after I’ve done a work out that my ancestor cave men would’ve even thought was INSANE – I don’t need the vagina – I don’t need other people’s approval of me – then the problem becomes my arrogance – yeah I’m a bit manic right now – preparing for the fall. Working out will give you goals, simple – attainable goals. Instead of three chin ups (or 0) one tomorrow or four tomorrow. Instead of running for 5 minutes w/o stopping try for six minutes two days later.
More on goals, learn a different language.
Keep your head up bro!
Run man. Why WOULD you have interests if your Succubus is going to ruin them? I divorced my wife yesterday. Everyone I know thinks I’m completely insane but the whole world is opening up before me. It’s like I’m alive for the first time.
A person can’t really be alone in the world, it’s bursting with people and things! You’re experiencing a neurochemical withdraw. As a recovered drug addict I can tell you it’s chemically and experientially the same. Also in that they end. And you can be happy and free. You gotta leave. As they say in Alcoholics Anonymous: “We can always refund your misery.” If you want another Succubus, you can get one, right? (But don’t : )
With all due respect to my bros, clinical depression is something you just can’t “snap out of” or run off at the gym. From carefully reading your description, bro, you need some help. Go see your doctor for an evaluation. This may or may not result in medication or therapy. While many do not advocate the use of meds, when they are properly used, they can manage your depression and vastly improve your quality of life. If you had a serious heart condition, would it not be wise to see your doctor and look at treatment options? I’d suggest slowing down, taking things one step at the time, and ask yourself “what do I need” as often as necessary until this passes. I hope this is a help to you, I have been in the EXACT same boat as you and it SUUUCKS, but it WILL pass. P.s. ditch the married chick, it’s unhealthy and not worth the potential trouble..
My understanding is that there is an over prescribing of drugs to treat depression, and the mental health community will have you talk to someone who active listens, then have you see a psychiatrist who will put you on a drug c~~~tail roulette. What I had suggested is that some other things be tried first, before going to seek such professional help. Deep depression does need additional help, but it is preferred to do other things to deal with it first. Sometimes it passes, sometimes it doesn’t.
"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.
I divorced my wife yesterday. Everyone I know thinks I’m completely insane but the whole world is opening up before me. It’s like I’m alive for the first time.
That’s wonderful!
I don’t mean the “divorce” obviously (don’t even believe in divorce), but glad to hear you’re enjoying a new view of the world.
A person can’t really be alone in the world, it’s bursting with people and things!
With everything there is in the world to do , go see, think, learn, and experience ….. there are simply not enough days in a lifetime to enjoy it. Yeah it sounds like a cheesy poster, but I really meant that. When I hear someone say “Im bored”, I see RED.
They aren’t actually “bored”. They’re BORING.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.I realize how much of this depression is linked to the f~~~ed up situation with that married woman. The fact is was so messed up – I was noble in my whole life- how the hell did I get involved with an older married woman who I am having a hard time leaving? (Didn’t know at first, but still eventually figured it out, and yet I plowed on) Who had I become? Why can’t I just be like ‘f~~~ it, never responding, dont give a s~~~ if she cries or threatens’
She kept calling and wanting to see me and a weak part of me wanted to, I sent an email ‘i’m really in a sad mood and need to be alone for a while, prob going to dr bye’, which is partly true but mostly a lie to get her off of me. I feel cowardly I resorted to this, but trying to remind myself i am AT WAR HERE and if it takes ‘cowardly’ moves to win I will. I also realize this addiction is like cocaine or heroin with how bad I ‘WANT’ it.
Thanks brothers.
The previous posts offer excellent advice.
But the problem is I HAVE NO DREAMS/GOALS my whole life has been to be #1 at all times, and I really f~~~ed it up by about early 20s and now I view myself as a loser (though objectively I know this isnt true, but cant stop myself).
I had a nasty case of depression once. It was a combination of no goals and nutritional deficiency. It dissipated nicely when I changed both. Those SSRI drugs only made it worse: My depression was not caused by a lack of drugs in my bloodstream.
Very true do not seek meds, heres a quote, “Lifestyle has more impact on our emotions and health than genetics. Depression does not stem from a change in chemical reactions in the brain- in fact more than 80 percent of the problem stems from the gut, and how the nutrients are processed and distributed to the rest of the body. If you want to combat depressive problems then do not seek medication to ‘correct’ brain chemistry- start with changing your diet”.
agree with both of you and I have started eating a lot more healthily of late. More fruit and veg and actually cooking meat rather than eating processed s~~~ from a microwave or takeaway (although I still indulge in takeaways every so often)
Work out. I saw that one mentioned – treat your body like a temple – but at the same time working out can replace the masochist tendencies people seem to have when they are like us – f~~~ing depressed. I listen to some hard s~~~ and/or motivational s~~~ and I PUSH MY BODY TO THE LIMITS. And I guarantee I don’t think I “need” anyone after I’ve done a work out
Here’s the thing, we all have bad days, that’s life, its all about your perspective.
Here’s an example, something justifiably p~~~ed me off yesterday, now I could ramble on to all of my friends about it, whine about it, seek revenge which is another waste of time, let it ruin my day or…
I decided to use it to my advantage, I took myself to the gym, I turned this aggression into one of the best workouts I’ve had in months. I’m happy someone p~~~ed me off.
Perspective:
Because in order to be able to think, you have to risk being offensive.
Thanks for bringing that video, Dodger.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.I suffered from depression all my life until about two and a half years ago. I did some research and was also majoring in psychology and learned some things about depression in the process. There’s major depressive disorder (MDD) which is the classic situation where you have a breakdown and cannot even get out of bed and lose your job and all that s~~~. Then there’s what used to be called Dysthymia which in the latest version of the DSM is called Pervasive Depressive Disorder (PDD.) PDD is what I had. PDD isn’t as intense, you’re more functional but whereas people who suffer from MDD may “bounce back” to some extent after a few weeks and experience great relief from better diet, regular exercise, and some talk therapy, a PDD sufferer can eat healthy, exercise every day, go top counseling, and still feel dread and despair every f~~~ing day no matter how hard he tries to stay on top of s~~~.
I was a full time yoga teacher, I did an intense 90 minute yoga routine five times a week, I rode my bike long distances every day to commute, I ate very healthy, I went to counseling and I still wanted to die. When I finally tried medication it was like a miracle, life was so much damned easier. Before I felt like any happiness or security I experienced was just like a house of cards that the slightest breeze of trouble could collapse and I’d be miserable again. I don’t take much, I do 20 mg a day of Prozac which is half of a regular dose.
Of course anti-depressants are over prescribed, all drugs are. Of course it’s good to take on a problem with multiple approaches and not put all your eggs in one basket. I wouldn’t discourage healthy diet, exercise, or counseling for a second. I was actually scared when I started taking an SSRI because I was afraid it wouldn’t work or I’d have some kind of bad reaction. I was very grateful that it didn’t. Everything that all the other posters have recommended is good advice but I just want to add that you shouldn’t rule out medication entirely. Proceed with caution, keep it as a last resort even, but it might make the difference between being able to function and not.
“My goal has been to be #1 at all times”
If the above is truly your paradigm, then Im sure youre aware that it is truly unattainable and that could be the cause of a negetive self image and deppression.
No one can be “#1 at all times”. I dont even know what that means. But its certainly unrealistic and unnattainable.
Resident cynic.
Anonymous5Cut the head off the snake brother (your problems) . AND NO longer shall you be far from company. You will walk down the street and people will separate. This stride takes time – but once you reach insanity -when every day your so f~~~ing tired you dream suicide – At that very moment when your give a “f~~~-a-meter” disappears. Let me tell you won’t need anyone. Won’t need anything your family, friends, women- society. Just a pay check. Just that beat in the center of your chest.
Keep checking in. Stop by and let us know how things are going.
Pick one thing to do each day and do it, even if its just taking a walk around the block. Little victories add up. Learning how to fly a plane (as an example) is cool but not something that’s done overnight. So pick something small. Got a library card? Go get one. Order a book online. See a movie. Find a homeless man and hand him a couple of cheeseburgers. Buy a nice suit and tie. Just, something little. Every day. They add up.
Well a big thing that has helped with denying/dodging that woman. I almost fell back into the addiction with her. She was going to visit me TONIGHT, and with the hospital lie I am out of there. I feel bad lying, and making her ‘worry’ etc, but she is so utterly toxic to me she needs to be gone as much as we ‘like’ each other. What a joke…somehow becoming an affair partner when I always prided myself on morals…. 🙁
I consider you guys my MGTOW brothers and I am in such a bad spot right now its insane, I am on the verge of tears how powerful and long-term this depression has been. I moved to a new city/job about 5 months ago, but I didn’t like the area and all it is is a grind, but I make ok money in this economy. But the problem is I HAVE NO DREAMS/GOALS my whole life has been to be #1 at all times, and I really f~~~ed it up by about early 20s and now I view myself as a loser (though objectively I know this isnt true, but cant stop myself). I see people laughing/smiling and I feel like I’m looking out of my body, listless and purposeless. I feel like such s~~~. Mind you I also ‘broke up’ with a fwb I found out has a husband, we got back in contact (dumb I know) and wants to come visit for sex this weekend, this also has been f~~~ing me up, I’m lonely, desperate for attention, and her she is offering it – yet I know this is probably something I need to just drop completely. I have always been ‘tough’ in that if I had a reason to endure I would put up with anything but its like with no goal even the littlest of tasks are overwhelming. Ive tried turning to my friends/parents but its mostly ‘snap out of it’ which doesnt help at all. God im so f~~~ed up right now…where the hell do I even start to get back onto the horse here? Thanks tons
Hi there LightBringer. Cool name and avatar.
Please don’t interpret me as ranting or preaching with anything on this, but this is a touchy subject for me that creates real fears. And it’s tough to give you any “life advice” with the situation, as I don’t know you well enough. But:
First: I hope you don’t feel alone or weird in this, ’cause you aren’t. Depression, in it’s many definitions and forms can be a real motherf~~~er to deal with. And an absolute s~~~load of people suffer from it. Some emotionally, others physiologically.
I’ve suffered from “Clinical Depression” for a good deal of my life. This has meant experimentation with many types of different medications, it’s meant drinking enough to seriously make a regiment of Marines look on with admiration, it’s meant drinking enough to make a regiment of Marines look on with pity and disgust, it’s meant being angry, it’s meant breaking guitars and it’s often meant just about everything you’ve typed above.
Being a goal-oriented individual, you will most likely personally find what you are going through to be a particularly difficult stretch or patch. I am not at all sure how old you are, but if you are going to spend any amount of time worrying about what you’ve accomplished in your twenties, you’ve got my admiration and wonder. My 20’s were nothing but a time of complete confusion, experimentation, devastation, personal highs and lows, you name it. Our 20’s correct me if I’m wrong, are meant to be a time where you get to f~~~ s~~~ up.
Here’s one of my paramount worries: I won’t ask out loud as to whether or not you’re on any medications for it, I’ll only say this out of personal experience: If you are, you can consider speaking with a doctor about switching the medication or going off the medication. But do speak to them if you are. If you are thinking of switching or going off of one, instantly doing so, or doing it “cold-turkey” can be super “out of your control” devastating. It’s just actual, physical chemistry and it can f~~~ you good. Doesn’t even matter how strong you are. We’re talking brain chems here. A pile of anti-depressants are on the market, and they are a real bitch to match to an individual who suffers from a natural lack of serotonin. I’ve got a laundry list of these that I’ve been on and at doses that could make a Rhino think that it could put a tutu on and balance on a high-wire whilst singing “Iiiiiim a lumberrrjack”. Some of these medications can unfortunately magnify depression, rather than seemingly do any good. Doctors all too often throw these pills around, and most GP’s aren’t all that hip with mental health issues. But I’ll say it again, if the medication is part of dealing with this, following expert advice is paramount, whether going on or off of them. Don’t let anyone, including myself, or yourself in a fit of desperation tell you how to manage these things. They can be f~~~ing lethal, brother.
As well, if you can, please stay the f~~~ away from alcohol for the time being. That s~~~ is a natural serotonin destroyer. The drink is a tricky, whoring bitch. She looks alluring, and feels good when you slide into her, but the during and after-effects can be absolutely devastating.
Depression is very serious s~~~. It can be the most wily, slow and condescending of enemies, and it’s often addressed as a weakness in western society. It f~~~ing isn’t. It’s no more weak than getting the flu, being born with diabetes or getting cancer. It’s a condition, not a predicament. Luckily, you are already a leg up in the battle. You’re a strong person, and even though you are depressed, you continue to acknowledge this. In knowing this, you already know, from having conquered barriers in the past that with this personal quality, you shall prevail over this too.
It is very difficult not to feel listless and lacking in energy when you are depressed. I’ve always found natural vitamins to be very helpful in combating depression, and I feel comfortable telling you so, as they aren’t going to hurt you, but again. “Taking” anything without discussing it with expert help can be not so smart. I can say that Vitamin C, D and E are needed when the brain in down. We tend to stay away from the sun and exercise when we’re depressed just from the very nature of feeling like s~~~. Even if you can lay in the sun and read a book, it’s going to help you. And if you can manage more than laying in the sun, even walking a lot is going to help you. The exercise portion can’t be stressed enough, and that includes your brain. Reading lots, writing if you can, or doing something which engages your brain. If you work out, get some reps in, force yourself to get some reps in, it’s instant brain medicine. Depending on the level of depression you’re suffering, or the stage which you are at, these things might not feel possible. If you don’t feel that you can manage this on your own, again, seek expert advice. Even then, put your radar up. Always “feel comfortable” with what someone is suggesting to you, particularly while you feel that you are low and unguarded. Remember, you’re still in control here, regardless of someone having a medical degree hanging on their wall.
I’d like to add lastly, something that you are already doing is SUPER F~~~ING IMPORTANT. Talk about it, like you are already doing here. If you don’t acknowledge it, and you slip back into your head alone with it, it can get worse. I will say from my own experience though: talk only with those whom you trust. This last point is imperative.
You’re going to make it through this brother. It’ll suck in the meantime, but you’ll do it. It’s an evolution, and a painful one, but it’s manageable and very treatable.
Cheers.
Willy
“I was noble in my whole life- how the hell did I get involved with an older married woman who I am having a hard time leaving? ”
“Who had I become”
Based off of these sentiments and the other comment about always “being #1” it seems to me you are VERY hard on yourself. Im the same way: Im my biggest critic. Not to make this about me, because its not its about you, but to relate to you and give you an example of the paradox: Im my biggest critic, yet I have a very self deprecating sense of humor, so others join in the fun and add their own critiuque to my self narrative which sometimes I get butt hurt over, yet I MYSELF created the opportunity.
I could be wrong, wouldnt be the first time, but it sounds as though you have a similair dynamic going on. Namely: you have artificially inflated expectations placed on yourself (i.e. being number one at all times) then when you invariably can’t live up to them you beat yourself up.
Listen, fact that you slept with a married woman doesnt mean your scum. We all f~~~ up, and for men sex is the biggest temptation. Beating yourself up over only leads to more poor decisions, and Im speaking from first hand experience here. Were all human, and we all succumb to the same temptations. It doesnt make you less of a man, it ultimately makes you realise you are made of the same flesh and blood we all are. What you do and learn from these experiences is what distinguishes each individual. Therein lies the “choice”, because weve all f~~~ed up at points where we never dreamed we wouldnt.
Resident cynic.
18 years on welbutrin man.
I’m a God on the s~~~.
Even mood.
I ran businesses, school, worked full time.Ask your Dr.
Then get a project and it is CRITICAL THAT YOU TURN OF THE F~~~ING TV AND NEVER LOOK AT IT AGAIN.
Six figures here man in wages and benefits, bagged over 60 women in my day.
I’m 50 and still fit and top of my game.
I work until 1 am seven days a week…non stop work…always on.The Welbutrin will restore you to who you really are…letting the brain function as it did…. chemical wiring…
You also need to master something…. a trade.
A man with a good paying job who is respected and looked up to has great confident.
Nobody f~~~s with me.
I know what buttons to push in this world.Also… get a good phone and start loading books on tape.
Reading is some work….but you can listen to books before you go to bed.Query the books men should read…start at the top of the list and enjoy.
You got this and we all have your back.
I am Stealthy MGTOW.
ps. I like to go GQ…not for women but for me.
Dress well, stay in shape, drive a nice killer car.
Huge flower garden in front of my home.
Be the man that all women want to be with for YOU…..and then ignore all the bitches.Stop giving a f~~~ about everyone else.
Take things moment to moment.
Keeping your mouth shut will get rid of 90% of daily distractions. I cannot stress this enough and forget about all the news issues and events of the day…f~~~ that noise. It keeps you from greatness.
And f~~~ all those witty pricky mangina. All losers, no built wealth, just shallow s~~~.
I don’t need to talk. I’m a f~~~ing machine at work.
Attitude you need to get….“Don’t talk to me, I have zero time for your bulls~~~.” A no bulls~~~ guy.
Get some ear buds, put them in and rage music and your books.TIME TO GO INTO YOUR OWN ZEN MGTOW WORLD AND STAY THERE.
Learn the peace of being alone. Men are built for this.
Men of greatness always are.I just tuned my batcave where I code.
S~~~.. I love it in here… in my underwear, classical music raging a little too loud…sipping a benedictine.
Just living my life, scratching where it itches.
I”m like a stealthy submarine…. on the bottom of the ocean.
Silent and complete.F~~~ THE WORLD.
and I always recommend getting a very f~~~ed up dog whom nobody else will take.
Make sure the dog is f~~~ing mean. Then you baby this dog. Speak to him like a human.
Comfort him. Wash him, brush him. Give him his heart work and flea med.
Often when you are down and we all get that way… your new pal is right there.
Man’s best friend.Then bring him home… feed him steak and chicken for a week.
In two days, he will be taking food out of your mouth.
Put his bed next yours or let him on the bed.You just got a new teddy bear who will love you the next decade.
Who needs a woman.
Go rub one out to youjizz.com, then with the prostate purged.
Get the dog, snuggle and drift off to sleep listing to books on tape…the wisdom of the world filling your head non stop.Your my new mgtow friend are responsible for your own happiness.
I am Stealthy MGTOW.
Seek me out and my posts..
I take time from my life to help my brothers out.You got this.
ps. You know what a nightmare is… being married to a hypergamous woman in a mcMansion you cannot afford
and she has you by the b~~~~, your kids hate you because of feminist dad sucks tv programming.BTW… you can still bed a woman now and then.
I’m f~~~ing a blonde Godess this week in a hotel.
We are both busy and we have a spa day.. of food, massages and f~~~ing.
We both know I’m mgtow..but she knows the deal.
After almost 30 years of marriage and ten sexless… I’m done.
Time to be happy.You can still have lady friends…just never marry or get them pregnant.
Some mgtow are monks…I will respect that.
But I like to take a mgtow vacation now and then.Start to enjoy your life and forget all the bulls~~~ about success, relationships and so on.
A peaceful quiet walk with the dog is just the thing.
Then with your head filled with the great books of the world you will start to transform you life.
Wisdom will fill your head. Also, read the bible for wisdom, not so much religion…after going mgtow…
the good book really tells you about the nature of women…Sheol, the barren womb, the land never satisfied with water, and the fire that never says, “Enough.”
Last thing… I found that you should not talk about MGTOW. Mangina try and wreck your life. They are worse than women.
Good luck man.
Wow. This should be upvoted way more, one of the better posts I’ve read here. Inspirational.
Anonymous29Well a big thing that has helped with denying/dodging that woman. I almost fell back into the addiction with her. She was going to visit me TONIGHT, and with the hospital lie I am out of there. I feel bad lying, and making her ‘worry’ etc, but she is so utterly toxic to me she needs to be gone as much as we ‘like’ each other. What a joke…somehow becoming an affair partner when I always prided myself on morals….
Why don’t you try a s~~~ test on HER. Ask her to leave her husband with no strings attached to your relationship with her and see her reaction.
Give her an ultimatum and only one week to make the decision . I guarantee you that she would not do it . She is only using you to prop up her own ego and her own needs not yours. And YOU, get de-toxed from pussy so you thinking process has a chance to readjust to what is more rational.Man, as someone who has dealt with depression on and off for a big part of my life I hope I can help you. Some of the previous comments are pure gold.
I’ll echo what several have said and start working out. Do anything! Run/jog for 20 minutes, lift weights, play some basketball- anything that’ll get your heart pumping. In my case, I took up boxing and I can tell you that it’s the best workout and you’ll also be able to release some stress/anger by hitting a heavy bag. Science has also shown that working out also makes the body release a hormone (serotonin/endorphins?) that automatically elevates our mood levels.
What also worked for me was writing in a journal every night. I know that this may sound stupid, but it is surprisingly very therapeutic. There’s just something to be said (that I can’t explain) about putting pen to paper and writing your thoughts/feelings down. As an added bonus, I’ve also found that after things have gotten better, I’ve looked back at my entries during the times I’ve been depressed after I’ve started to feel better and have really appreciated the progress that I’ve made. It just gives me a little extra pride in myself and drive to continue working on my goals.
It’s tough to do, but what I’ve found that works for is to try to break my negative loop patterns. One thing I started to do is to write down in my phone a few things that I’ve been grateful for the previous day. Even the smallest little things that most people take for granted like having a good dinner or having a good workout the previous day. I tend to do it on the train on my way to work and it honestly takes me 5 minutes.
Although I can’t say that I’ve been as consistent as what I’ve previously mentioned, try repeating positive affirmations out loud in the mirror at night. If you don’t know what those are, just google it and you’ll see what I mean. But it basically involves repeating certain affirmations like “I love myself” or “I believe in myself” in the mirror. Along those lines, I’ve also listened to some hypnosis when I’ve gone to sleep at times.
Trust me man, I know EXACTLY how you feel, and I know that a lot of the things that have been mentioned by myself and others are easier said than done. But just start taking baby steps. You’ll pull through!
Hang in there brother!
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