How was your mother?

[ScandinavianParticipant 590]

It’s not very rare anymore: most women can see feminism has backfired and are now running scared hiding behind traditionalism. My only surprise is that mom didn’t try to hide that they might be one and the same. She would never have said it voluntarily, but as I proclaimed the idea she was smart enough not to hide it. My mother is many things, but idiot is not one of them.

[rorickParticipant 682]

My mom was a working woman and she never nurtured me like i used to see with my friends but anyway that helped me a lot to live my life my own way otherwise i would have been dependent on someone preferably getting married just to have someone.. She did all houseold chores with less complaining, kind hearted, no me me mentality, respected my dad.. But i disliked her most of the time because afterall she’s a woman she had all the traits of a normal woman :- manipulating nature, emotional roller coster, etc.. which i disliked the most, I also used to think that there’s something wrong with me to hate my mom while all my friends praised their mothers but that is how i am i hated that nature no matter if it is my mom or anyother women.. And that is one of the reason why i went my own way (MGTOW) cause every woman in this world is born with that nature which I despised the most.

Whatever I would never flip her for a new mom.

And moreover shes the only woman who had agreed to most of the things i had said about modern woman and the true color of feminism.

[revistaParticipant 232]

My mom was kind,sympathetic,warm,hard working and my best friend.she died 11 years ago,never got to see my 2 youngest boys.she would have been a better role model than my ex’s mom who unfortunately is still alive and is a toxic cow and not a good grandma to my boys.

[The Moth Attracted to the FlameParticipant 2982]

Read my profile and you can tell what I my mother was like..

[Anonymous 29]

By age ten I no longer cared. I spent too much time in the men’s world of military cadets for her to have had much influence on me.

[DrexelScottParticipant 30]

14_Peter_88 wrote:

My mother is/was cold, self-centered, manipulative, shamed me when i didn’t make her happy and stopped me from doing boy stuff, due to “danger”, or id “hurt myself”
The more i look back, the more sick it makes me, I know she never loved me, and i used to look for explanations, like diagnoses such as Narcissistic personality disorder, or her being bi-polar. But the truth is she’s just a woman, thats the only explanation i’ll ever really have.
So how were your mothers? Like mine? Or did they nurture and care for you?

Mine was/is exactly like this. Utterly no substance, no kindness in her whatsoever, and everything is phony and surface-level. She is great at pretending to be happy and kind, but it’s all a show. Raised me and my two brothers to be entertaining to her–that was the foundation of our entire upbringing. We are all mid to late 20s now, I have had to work through countless addictions and mental illnesses due to our upbringing that I have now made it through, but my brothers are still sad, miserable betas and can’t figure it out even though I point it out to them constantly.

She couldn’t care less about how I feel or what I think, unless it is useful to her in some way. Case in point: I have tried talking with her about MRA, MGTOW and feminism and why I live the way I live–she yanks the carpet out from under me without a second thought, then asks when I am going to settle down and get into a relationship. She isn’t even pretending to listen.

"No price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself."--Nietzche

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[KeymasterKeymaster]

DrexelScott wrote:

stopped me from doing boy stuff, due to “danger”, or id “hurt myself”

DrexelScott wrote:

Mine was/is exactly like this.

That’s because it’s a Female value. You can expect female values from your mother – who is female.

• FEELINGS are more important than FACTS
• SENSITIVITY is more important than TRUTH
• COMMITMENT is more important than INDIVIDUALITY
• SAFETY is more important than FUN.
• (unborn) CHILDREN are more important than PEOPLE.

These are female values. “You can’t say that. Don’t say that. I’m so offended. Settle down little Johnny, you’re gonna hurt yourself. Stop playing on your skateboard, you’re going to fall. Don’t do this. Don’t do that. He’s not married? What’s wrong with him. I don’t care if you want the baby, I do what I want with my body. Now give me your money.”

All. Female. Values.

Say to your girlfriend / wife / mother “Im gonna build a rocket ship and go into space!!”…
She will tell you “That’s impossible. Don’t be silly. It’s too dangerous. It’s gonna get you killed.”

Later in life its common for a man will reflect on what he was taught by his mother and realize it was nothing but a bunch of s~~~……. and even though he may have hated his father when he was younger, he grew to understand it and appreciate it. The female values are FAR more likely to hold you back from achieving your dreams. That’s where the expression “women are dream killers” comes from. They are “fun killers” too.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[rorickParticipant 682]

@keymaster Holy s~~~ ! everything you said is so true.. The other day i was having a conversation with my mom regarding how government officials ask for kickbacks to do their work and may be i should record their wrong doings secretly and report them to media.. do you know what she said “no honey don’t do it, let someone do it and not you, then someone will harm you” ,. I think according to women as long as their stomach is filled they don’t care about others .. like you said female values may be.

[icyshadowParticipant 20]

For the most part, my mom was one of the few people who treated me well (like a human being that is) during my early years. I found my dad overly harsh half the time, my siblings were jerks to me (especially my older brother) and I was bullied in school. Things got back on track once my dad came back (he was sent to prison over drug charges which I have not bothered getting into since they’re not my business), and I’ve lately patched up the bad blood I had with him.

In doing so, I earned the ire of my siblings, but they can go to hell for all I care. I also found out that my mom never told my dad about how badly my older brother treated me. I felt enraged about her apathy, since my older brother literally made my life a living hell until I was 15 years old. She’s also stubborn and can be a spoiled brat at times. She recently got herself a pet dog despite my dad saying they don’t need any more pets in the house, since she already got a cat despite his protests. She has her flaws but at least she isn’t as crazy as my roommate’s mom…

[KeymasterKeymaster]

rorick wrote:

Holy s~~~ ! everything you said is so true.

Credit for that goes to Bill Maher. He said it first:

rorick wrote:

The other day i was having a conversation with my mom

Me too. It was about visiting her for Christmas and how “im just into it and would rather go where the sun is shining for Christmas. Maybe take a trip to a tropical place. She acts all disappointed. But then she starts one of her clever manipulations.

• Whenever I say “wow look at that car”…. she says “all that money and only two seats”.
• Whenever I say “No really, that car is amazing”…. she say “well MY car just gets me from A to B”..

This is her way of ATTEMPTING to teach me that car’s sole purpose is to “get you from A to B”.
Enjoying the experience — “FUN” —- is not allowed.

See what I mean?

I have to laugh. When I say I like something, she does;’t acknowledge it and tries to talk about what SHE likes as a response. So when I say I want to take a trip for Christmas to some place tropical …. she doesn’t say “well have a great time!!”…….. she says “Well I really like the change of seasons and being where it’s cold and snowy at Christmas”.

Typical. Fun, freedom, a doing what a man wants is unacceptable and not even open for discussion.

“OK. but we are not talking about what YOU like. You asked me what I am planning for Christmas.”

This is when it gets good……

“But don’t you want to be around a tree with your nieces?”
(trying to bend my plans into what SHE wants – not what I want)

“No. I already told you what I want to do. Christmas is for little kids.”

“OMG!! DON”T SAY THAT!!!!!!!”

See what I mean? Because feelings are more important than facts.
Sensitivity is more important than truth.
Safety is more important than fun.

FEMALE VALUES.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[VoidraitheParticipant 477]

I resented my mother for a number of issues when I was a teenager. She was never abusive or cold even, just we both are very strong willed, both right all the time and there inevitably was the time we argued. For some reason my Mom stayed with my Dad until my younger sister was adult then they divorced. She went a bit of a feminist man hate bend for a few years after the divorce right at about the time I got screwed over by a dumb c~~~. I had a calm discussion with her and told her: I can’t stand being around you spewing the feminist rhetoric. You can still be a Feminist on what ever level you want but cut the overt misandry or I’ll see to it you never see me again. Ever.

I don’t know if that changed her mind but a year later she was off the Feminist kool-aid. Since that we’ve never had a better relationship and ultimately she is the one woman I do truly love, faults and all. I told her about MGTOW and that I’m set in that path, she was supportive and even said “Well at least you get to keep your RRSP’s (retirement savings) all to yourself.”

Ironic since she got half my Dad’s in the divorce.

[HammerdownParticipant 528]

Keymaster wrote:

See what I mean? Because feelings are more important than facts.Sensitivity is more important than truth.Safety is more important than fun.
FEMALE VALUES.

This reminds me of something I read about Ivan Moody, the singer of Five Finger Death Punch. One of their videos is featured here on the Wall.

He has said that his mother does not approve of his choice of a career in music. I thought this was really interesting. He’s a world famous rock star, with tons of money, who is doing something he loves, brings joy to thousands of people all around the world and supports people (the band are huge supporters of the troops and do a lot for them charity wise, etc) and she STILL doesn’t approve.

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