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Hi all,
My Dad understands how toxic the modern woman is nowadays. My Mum, on the other hand, is a kind, caring, sweet, positive, old-fashioned, Blue Pill Thinking woman, who my Dad has protected over the years, from the bad elements of modern society. My parents have a traditional, old-fashioned, mutually-caring/loving marriage, which is very unusual nowadays, but my Dad has always been my Mum’s protector/provider, and since being married (in the early 1970s), my Dad has allowed my Mum to be a permanent house-wife (i.e. my Dad has been too protective of my Mum, which has not helped my Dad, but which has given my Mum a comfortable/safe married life). My Dad is fine with me possibly never bothering with women nowadays; he just wants me to be happy. My Mum, on the other hand, would like to see me settled-down with a woman, a house, two children, etc.; the full Blue Pill dream scenario, like my ever-tolerant father.
When my Mum questions me about ‘girl friends’, I try to tell her how bad modern women are, which she will not accept (in a caring/understanding way), and she comes out with the usual Blue Pill cliche responses, such as: “you just haven’t met the right woman yet”; “the right woman is out there for you somewhere”; “there are good women out there”; “you need to get out more”; and “don’t leave it too late”; etc. Now, we know that these Blue Pill cliche responses are un-true, but my Mum will not accept this, because she has been so Blue Pill Programmed herself (and in turn, she Blue Pill Programmed me). After 40-odd years of marriage, my Dad sees through it all now, and has told me that the sex just isn’t worth it (which I agree with).
My question is, how can I get my Mum to accept that I do not want a modern woman, because they are so bad, and that I am not interested in sex/women, nowadays? I have not told either of my parents that I am MGTOW yet, even though this would not personally bother me, but it may deeply up-set my Mum. My parents both know that I am still a virgin, the infamous 40-year-old virgin, and that I have never had any intimacy/sex from a woman. But, the older I get, the harder it is to keep making excuses to my Mum for my lack of girl-friend/wife.
Can you guys give me any advice/help on this sensitive issue? I don’t know what to do, apart from to continue making-up excuses and trying to avoid the topic. I know that my MGTOW Monk status means that I will be the last of my family line, but I cannot have children just to satisfy some sort of Blue Pill Guilt-Trip of not carrying-on my family name; that is just insane/ridiculous and I am Red Pill now anyway.
sjt1975.
Please break up your paragraph as it’s very difficult to read.Thanks.I can only shed light on what has worked for me. I share a lot about my life with my Mom. She is probably my closest confidant. As a result of that, she has seen pretty much everything I have been through as a result of women. She has seen everything first-hand and cannot deny the truth anymore. I have been honest with her about my experiences as well as my vision for the future.
She may still hope that I find someone, but she does not discuss this topic with me anymore. We discuss business more than anything else. She has a very sharp mind and helps me a lot with some of my business decisions.
I think your situation is entirely different as a result of the lack of experience with women. I don’t have an easy answer for you but maybe my story can help you in some way.
My mom has excepted that I will never ever get legally government contract married ever. I am straight forward and uncompromising on it.
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How To Tell Your Mum That You’re A MGTOW / MGTOW Monk..
Remember that wish you had of being a Grandmother?
It died.If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.
Say f~~~ all.
Just let the light slowly dawn.The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape, finding oneself in the ranks of the insane. Marcus Aurelius
Great question.
When my Mum questions me about ‘girlfriends’, I try to tell her how bad modern women are, which she will not accept (in a caring/understanding way), and she comes out with the usual Blue Pill cliche responses, such as: “you just haven’t met the right woman yet”; “the right woman is out there for you somewhere”; “there are good women out there”; “you need to get out more”; and “don’t leave it too late”; etc
Celophane. If a man can’t see through that, he’s screwed.
Your mom is a woman too. Doesn’t anyone think it’s creepy that men & fathers will even sell out other men for the good and protection of their daughters.
Do mothers do that for their sons?
No.
They would push you right into the trap not giving a s~~~ about your well-being or that even you know it’s a bad deal. Why do mothers do this? SHE’S YOUR MOTHER. What do mothers condition their own sons with?
–>> so that she can be taken care of in old age.
She’s not thinking about YOUR best interests. She’ thinking about herself. SHE wants grandkids. SHE wants you to “find the right girl”… but isn’t avoiding the wrong one the better pay off anyway?
Of course I don’t know your mother, but do I need to? I see the difference in the way fathers automatically treat young suitors like “rapists”, and are very skeptical of every motivation. But moms are like “Keep looking!”
How To Tell Your Mum
“Not all women are like that!”
“Mom, here’s a box of hand grenades. Pick one and pull the pin. What’s a matter?? Not all grenades will explode in your face. You just need to pick the right one!!!”
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She’ll understand that just fine.
Don’t make it about “women” at all. Use any other analogy.
Like comparing a marriage contract to an alligator pit:“You’re just fearful.”
“You see a sign over there which says “MAN EATING ALLIGATORS”. Does it require courage to go in there? Or does it require stupidity.”
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Your mother is a woman. You don’t need to tell her. She already knows.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Just tell then you are waiting for the right person. Don’t explain yourself, you don’t have to.
"Have you ever thought about any real freedoms? Freedom from the opinions of others...even from the opinions of yourself?"
Featured in an article in a newspaper that my Mum reads :/
She was extremely proud of me. Haha.There seems to be a wall of difference in the way your old fashion mother sees the modern world and how you have become very aware, awake to it all! In a sense your mom is still like a child that has been sheltered. Until a child experiences first hand how dangerous the world is he or she will not listen or comprehend warnings given to them!
My question is, how can I get my Mum to accept that I do not want a modern woman, because they are so bad, and that I am not interested in sex/women, nowadays? I have not told either of my parents that I am MGTOW
You must own a better Crystal ball than IThere seems to be a wall of difference in the way your old fashion mother sees the modern world and how you have become very aware, awake to it all! In a sense your mom is still like a child that has been sheltered. Until a child experiences first hand how dangerous the world is he or she will not listen or comprehend warnings given to them!
Macho hits the nail on the head here. Excellent insight, Macho.
When my Mum questions me about ‘girl friends’, I try to tell her how bad modern women are
You’re doing it wrong.
Tell her that you haven’t confessed it yet because it was embarassing, but now you’re ready to confess.
Tell her that you have a low libido / few interest in sex.
Add that you asked three different doctors, and all them said that you’re within normal parameters but near the low end of the spectrum.
Tell her that a woman wouldn’t be sexually satisfied with you because you would give her good sex, but just only few times per year.
Then apologize for having blamed women for so long, but add that she should understand why you weren’t ready to confess it.Done, she isn’t going to bother you anymore.
It’ll work FOR SURE: it worked with my parents and they know that I had a lot of girls/women, and I also had a marriage contract, and kids.
Applied to your situation is going to work much better.Explanation: within a marriage contract women control/manipulate men with sex/withholding sex.
That includes your mother with your dad, it’s always so in almost the totality of couples.
When you say that you have low libido / very few interest in sex, then they know that a woman couldn’t control/manipulate you, and the marriage contract is not going to work FOR HER.
They don’t need much sex from you (no more than once, at maximum twice, per month) but they NEED your sexual desire to control/manipulate you.SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.
Anonymous1My Mom was very old fashioned also. Very different from the toxic women of today. Still though, I would have been MGTOW back in the 19th Century too.
When your role models are Tesla and Heaviside, Mothers know when to quit. They know its game over.
Anonymous12Never being close to my family even when I lived with them I guess it is weird for me to think that someone feels a need to explain anything at all.
Being somewhat passive aggressive at times I guess I would just shrug when asked these questions and leave them guessing.
You cant.
You are focusing on your career and waiting for the right gal to come along. End. That’s all you say
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You cant.
I disagree.
We all live in a feminized society, and his mum too.
A feminized society define men’s higher libido as “excessive” / “unhealthy” / “toxic masculinity” and blame normal men for their normal sexual desires – this is female default manipulation within a couple, just elevated to a society level.
Such dynamic can be observed even in matriarchal societies: Mosuo in China, former native Americans societies in the west coast, Jeju-Do in South Korea – the power of women is basically based on the assumption that men have an higher sexual desire (correct) and by so “real men” don’t reject women – by not rejecting women then those men are forced into households ruled by women through marriage contract (walking marriages in Mosuo look different, but it’s the same dynamic: men are forced to stay under their mothers’ rule while having sex with their spouse). Women’s power is based on exploiting men’s higher libido, and firstly shaming men who do not conform (who don’t sign the marriage contract) then shaming married men who are “entitled to sex” (in order to better control/manipulate them).Every system have a weak point: the weak point of the above system is that you can escape from societal pressure to be compliant if you claim that you have a lower libido.
The general trend towards acceptation of asexuality and even homosexuality makes exploiting such weakness a very easy game: since total asexuality and even homosexuality are accepted, then “low libido” is a no-brainer, a minor issue, nobody is going to question it.SUPREME LEADER KIM JONG-UN'S FASHION STYLIST - if you want a new look or if you're a very beautiful trans you can call me, phone number +85079255312 / mobile 01921421211. The worth of a man isn't the usefulness that women get from him. Avoiding living with a woman, a man isn't rejecting a lot of sex: he's rejecting sexual starvation. MGTOW IS TACKLING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IN COMPLIANCE WITH CONVENTION OF ISTANBUL: http://www.coe.int/en/web/conventions/full-list/-/conventions/rms/090000168008482e --- Article 4, Section 4 "Special measures that are necessary to prevent and protect women from gender-based violence shall not be considered discrimination under the terms of this Convention". WHAT I LEARNT FROM A GENDER STUDIES CLASS IN LUND, SWEDEN: every time feminists accuses men of doing something, odds are likely either them or persons associated with them are doing the exact same thing but a lot worse. WHO I'M RIGHT NOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1okpAj7Fhw Basically my former life have been a conflict between this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yz_RQVkvke4 and this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIMeyTK-sU That's, more or less, all about me.
Giving women straight answers sometimes just leads to more pointless questions. It’s better to just lie or give half truths. Tell them you’re just not looking to get involved with anyone right now. Everyone goes through phases in life where they want to be single. Just keep fobbing them off until they get bored of asking.
Simply tell her.
You don’t have to name MGTOW, just be very clear that you’ve read the law, seen the numbers, done the Risk-benefit comparison and there is simply no logical reason for you to date/marry.
It’s exactly what I did, and although my mother could accurately be described as a tradcon, she has come to agree with my outlook that it’s simply too big of a risk. I don’t doubt that there is an element of self preservation in that agreement but I’ll take that over having to argue the situation every time I see her like some guys have to.
Anonymous12My question is, how can I get my Mum to accept that I do not want a modern woman, because they are so bad, and that I am not interested in sex/women, nowadays?
let me be simple and straight:
Your sexlife, your love life, your engagements and marriages are yours only.
It is none of your parent´s business.If you do not depend on them / live with them just POLITELY tell them that sex/girlfriends/wives/kids is a subject that only concerns you – you do not wish to discuss it.
Personally, i would not have an issue to shut them out of my life if needed. Both are bluepill, and therefor inherently represent a danger to me, so they need to be pushed out of the way.
Anonymous14I never had to tell my beloved Mother fortunately….she always knew from simple observation of her Son. Plus, due to her job, she sees the s~~~ vortex everyday which helped.
Simply tell her.
You don’t have to name MGTOW, just be very clear that you’ve read the law, seen the numbers, done the Risk-benefit comparison and there is simply no logical reason for you to date/marry.
FACEPALM
DOUBLE FACEPALMDo you really hope that numbers, laws, risks-benefits math, cold logic, are going to work with a woman?
It’s exactly what I did, and although my mother could accurately be described as a tradcon, she has come to agree with my outlook that it’s simply too big of a risk. I don’t doubt that there is an element of self preservation in that agreement but I’ll take that over having to argue the situation every time I see her like some guys have to.
She’s just taking time to wonder about how to avoid the issues you brought, and how to make you being compliant…you’ll see…
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