How To Enjoy The Friendzone

[Yojimbo RockfordParticipant 348]

I enjoy talking to pretty women for a lot of the aesthetic reasons that many men enjoy driving a finely tuned automobile they have a car crush on. With one exception of course. A man will want to drive that car a lot. I like to talk to pretty girls in small doses…For a little while.

How long is “a little while”? Usually the time it takes for her to break from my conversational lead and go off on some tangent of vapidity. So about 30-90 seconds.

I will indulge their tangent for about five minutes. It’s at this point that I will point out how her Topic Of Choice really highlights her inner qualities and virtues. Once the ego is sufficiently stroked, I give the one compliment they hate to get in the whole world: “Wow. You would make a really great friend”!

I spend about 1-2 minutes talking about how one can never have enough friends like her and people in her life are lucky to be able to count on her when things are tough.

The hotter the woman, the quicker her pussy dries up. You can literally see the disappointment in their eyes that they don’t get to friend zone YOU! It actually makes her more beautiful because she has no power over you.

One of three things will happen. Her pussy will dry up and she will walk away being taught a tough lesson. Or her pussy will get wetter and you can f~~~er on YOUR terms. If you want. Or you can still reject her and teach her a tougher lesson.

So, I don’t see why all these beta t~~~s complain about the Friend Zone. I rather enjoy it.

[Silver FoxParticipant 2766]

Your experience sounds different from mine… I really can’t remember the last time I engaged in that kind of conversation with a woman. Sure, I’ve had many conversations with women from all walks of life, but I guess I just don’t ever think about whether I’m making her wet or not. It wasn’t really how I thought back then, and it certainly isn’t how I think now.

I suppose I never really gave the Friend Zone much thought. It was never something I worried about, whether I was in it, or whatever. Before I started becoming MGTOW, I was certainly interested in women, but I’ve also never felt awkward talking to women. So I never felt the need to try psychology tricks with them. With me, it’s pretty much what you see is what I am.

But, that’s my experience, for what it’s worth.

"Are you loosed from a wife? Do not seek a wife." --Apostle Paul

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

I’m sorry but what yuo’re talking about is the PUA tactic of “negging”. It has nothing to do with the friend zone.

The friend zone occurs when one person is sexually attracted to another person who is not sexually attracted to them and then, rather than making a clear move that will result in rejection, they instead offer to accept a diminished role as “just friends”… and this is key… in order to be able to stick around long enough to make themselves look like a good mate selection or to trash talk the competition or get friends and family to apply pressure in their favor or to just wait for a moment of weakness and vulnerability in order to strike and get what they want.

Do you see the difference?

[Anonymous 12]

Why would you even do that…
“teach her a tougher lesson”…?
why?
So you can appear superior, whilst truly being inferior? Complexes? Unmet psychological needs?
As long as you play these games, women still matter to you on a deeper level.
You are still chained to their attention.

Stop licking the red pill. swallow it, goddammit. SAWLLOW!

Atta boy. Now go brush your teeth.

[Anonymous 43]

F~~~ the friendzone.

[SandalsParticipant 4253]

How can you stomach a conversation with a girl? What are you talking about? Politics? Hash tables? Car engine dynamics? Women talk about three things: they complain about others, they complain about you, and they complain about themselves. When I want to be depressed, I’ll give a women my ear. Ugh…

[Anonymous 1]

I see that you like to troll women, I prefer to go with a direct “no”. The “friend” thing is one of their best ego boost moves, and I do not like to do the things they do.

[OgreParticipant 5863]

If you’re bothering to play games it’s somehow feeding her ego.

You might enjoy the dynamic, but I certainly don’t. You think you’re winning but even if you’re turning down guaranteed sex you’re still paying her attention beyond the point, that 30-90 seconds you mentioned, where you get bored with the game.

Better to never let her even start talking. A woman’s entire point in life is to take the maximum amount of your attention and effort while doling out the minimum amount of sex.

I failed to realize in my youth that I was the prize. I was going to work. I was going to earn. Little did I realize that due to feminism, that no longer meant I had to share. Road soon, Desert after.

[WallyParticipant]

That seems like a lot of work, I would rather just go talk to people when the mood strikes. Tonight at the art show talked to an older lady and her son about my age about my work, great conversation, no psycho babble. Earlier talked to a Younger woman who showed me her work, no pretenses, no gaming just what we were interested in.

If your young I understand what your doing and why but when you get older you will think about on it as a waste of your time and focus.

"what a waste of a life, to marry, give up your freedom, just for the hope of not dying alone. Don't get married Son."

[TheStormWithinParticipant 778]

Women are not worth all the strategizing and hoop jumping. I don’t know much about the “PUA” nonsense, but I don’t quite understand it.

You’re essentially supposed to fake a “don’t give a s~~~” attitude? It’s far more effective when genuine, I assure you.

Aunt Esther: Fred, I'll have you know this body was blessed by Mother Nature!! Fred: Well, too bad your face was cursed by Father Time!

[bigboy83Participant 11312]

If a c~~~ put you in the friendzone, it is her job to make the friendship work not yours. They fail every time.

Shit Tested, Cunt Approved.

[AttonParticipant]

I enjoy talking to pretty women for a lot of the aesthetic reasons that many men enjoy driving a finely tuned automobile they have a car crush on. With one exception of course. A man will want to drive that car a lot. I like to talk to pretty girls in small doses…For a little while.

Cars using Electronic Fuel Injection tune themselves automatically several times a second. That and the looks of care doesn’t fade after 50 or more years nor does there performance if treated correctly.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[Anonymous 0]

The best way to enjoy the friendzone is to NOT BE IN It in the first place.

[Anonymous 0]

The friendzone only exists for people who care about it. If your going to f~~~ some woman great, if not why bother playing all the head games? Go get a hooker.

To a woman the friendzone is her harem of thirsty blue-pillers who will often be at her side or in ear for what ever boost she needs other than c~~~, that is for Chad to provide. Allowing yourself to be in her friendzone is boosting her own ego and false beliefs about her self. Even acknowledging the friendzone to me suggest you are willing to play into her games. The friendzone only exists for those who allow it to exist. Look at all the strategizing and hoop jumping you are going through. Does it not at all seem even slightly silly to you? You’re just beating her to the rejection notice and the woman can’t stand it she decides she will want you only to reject you later. They love the last word.

But if this is something you want to do go right ahead, play with fire enough and you’ll get burnt. I guarantee it.

Stargazer wrote:

I’m sorry but what yuo’re talking about is the PUA tactic of “negging”. It has nothing to do with the friend zone.

The friend zone occurs when one person is sexually attracted to another person who is not sexually attracted to them and then, rather than making a clear move that will result in rejection, they instead offer to accept a diminished role as “just friends”… and this is key… in order to be able to stick around long enough to make themselves look like a good mate selection or to trash talk the competition or get friends and family to apply pressure in their favor or to just wait for a moment of weakness and vulnerability in order to strike and get what they want.

Do you see the difference?

Anonymous wrote:

Why would you even do that…
“teach her a tougher lesson”…?
why?
So you can appear superior, whilst truly being inferior? Complexes? Unmet psychological needs?
As long as you play these games, women still matter to you on a deeper level.
You are still chained to their attention.

Stop licking the red pill. swallow it, goddammit. SAWLLOW!

Atta boy. Now go brush your teeth.

Ogre wrote:

If you’re bothering to play games it’s somehow feeding her ego.

You might enjoy the dynamic, but I certainly don’t. You think you’re winning but even if you’re turning down guaranteed sex you’re still paying her attention beyond the point, that 30-90 seconds you mentioned, where you get bored with the game.

Better to never let her even start talking. A woman’s entire point in life is to take the maximum amount of your attention and effort while doling out the minimum amount of sex.

TheStormWithin wrote:

Women are not worth all the strategizing and hoop jumping. I don’t know much about the “PUA” nonsense, but I don’t quite understand it.

You’re essentially supposed to fake a “don’t give a s~~~” attitude? It’s far more effective when genuine, I assure you.

Anonymous wrote:

The best way to enjoy the friendzone is to NOT BE IN It in the first place.

Some of the best contributions in this thread.^^^^^^^
Heed the advice these men left here and work on personal development, not mind games to play with women. When playing mind games with women you’ll ultimately lose. And if this is just you making lemonade out of the lemons that women gave you, don’t even bother doing that, throw the lemons away, and do something for your own betterment.

[Masculine_ManParticipant 2735]

I’d rather ignore them.

If it costs you your peace of mind, then it is too expensive.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Yojimbo Rockford wrote:

You would make a really great friend”!

I am in total agreement on this – friendzoning them before they attempt to friendzone you – but I also know it’s not a genuine, and so does she. It’s a very clear backhanded “neg”, but there is a big difference between “game” and playing THE game.

THE game can still be fun.

It’s done for my own amusement and not hers and not any attempt to heighten her attraction. If it does, it’s only a by product and a side effect.

I only agree with it insofar as women like to “friendzone” , but they don’t really mean “friend”. I would only use it to make an unspoken point. Like a dismissal. As if to say “we should talk, gotta run, let’s have lunch.”

Nobody really means that either.

If she is insulted by it ( and reacts negatively ) then she knows exactly what you just did there. You beat her at her game.

It doesn’t matter if it gives her the ‘gina tingles. If I were interested in “the bang”, I wouldn’t use a tactic anyway…. and I would be far more direct.

“You want my hand print on your ass. I can tell.”

I would be TOO direct.

Friendzoning her is HER method of communication. Indirect. Contains innuendos. Has a another meaning and agenda. I can’t stand that s~~~. No interest. But if she likes to play that way, then she can expect the same insincerity in return.

PS. Funny you mention this.
I have also mentioned friend-zoning them first – and so have a few others.

THE game (i.e natural and fun “flirting”) is a lost art form. I’m far better at that than this competition gender dynamic warfare. As our friend Cap once said, “I would rather play russian roulette with a fully loaded cylinder than play these stupid mental gymnastics ever again.”

That’s a quote for all time.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[StargazerParticipant 12505]

To each their own. I never found “the game” to be fun at all. I prefer the easy yes.

Maybe I’m just lazy but I don’t see the difference between an $8 bottle of wine and $300 bottle when it comes to women. If I meet a woman and it’s obvious that she’s into me and I’m into her, I just shortcut the whole thing and we get down to it. I’m charming and skilled enough to take a woman to bed who wants to be there.

But if she doesn’t want to be in my bed or if she intends to make me jump through hoops to get her there, then no thanks. I’m not making extra effort to give her something she already wants, I’m not chasing after something I can’t catch and I’m not going to pre-emptively deny to her what she’s denying to me in order to have “hand” in the situation. I do not have time for that. It’s that simple.

Now, the one case where the concept of the friend zone might be applicable is when I’ve got a woman who I was initially attracted to but then later lost interest in. She’s still trying to get me to f~~~ her but I don’t want to any more, but I enjoy her coming around with food and drinks and spending time eating and watching TV and listening to me rant about something.

I suppose in that case she could consider herself friendzoned because no matter what she does, she’s not getting any more sex from me… but it’s entirely her choice to keep coming around to share my company and she can stop at any time. So actually I haven’t done anything, I’ve simply stopped f~~~ing her.

[MuglintarParticipant 1333]

Friendzoning women? What you have to gain from that? Some sort of comming back at them? Some kind of revenge? You waste time and energy in order to make her life more miserable? Man, that is four year olds behaviour!
Sure you can enjoy women’s company, but only when they have something to add to your life. The second she starts playing game with you, you have turned yourself into her monkey. A man is no Child nor is he a woman’s toy. Before you haven’t developed that self-esteem, you will not see, what are the rewards of becoming a MGTOW.

"Him, who delights in solitude, is either a wild beast or a GOD!" - Aristotle (Aristot. Pol. 1.1253a) 1 Hom. Il. 9.63; the passage goes on: ἐστὶν ἐκεῖνος ι ὃς πολέμου ἔραται.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Stargazer wrote:

I never found “the game” to be fun at all. I prefer the easy yes.

“GAME” I hate and agree with that opening sentence: “Game is a stifling worthless expenditure of male vitality”.

THE game I have experienced many times (although this was back before “game” ever existed as a method of competing with other men for females) and I enjoyed when women were good at it. Get a good rally going like a tennis match. They were an easy “yes” and also the most fun.

If I had a son, I would tell him: “If she doesn’t look at you and go “yum” – IGNORE HER. Women who want to have sex with you will let you know. Ignore the rest. Show interest if you like the girl – once – if she doesn’t respond, who gives a s~~~. She doesn’t matter. And her “rejection” doesn’t matter either. Don’t try and pursue her anymore.”

But the “game”? Women are not even “friendly” anymore.

“OMG this guy smiled at me, what a total creep”.

Who would ever want to play any reindeer games with her?

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Muglintar wrote:

Friendzoning women? What you have to gain from that? Some sort of comming back at them? Some kind of revenge? You waste time and energy in order to make her life more miserable? Man, that is four year olds behaviour!

True, it’s toying with her in a way, and a silly 4-year old’s game, but so is “girl talk”.

Now that is truly infantile.

What she says v.s what she means ….
and laid out like a f~~~ing wo-manual for “guys” to follow.

How about she grow up and learn to speak MANGLISH.

Like I said (above) thats HER style of communication. So every once in a while, you can “friend-zone” her purely as a dismissal.

If she weren’t such a f~~~ing child, she would say “I will never have sex with you” instead of LYING and saying “I just want to be friends”. What a bunch of nonsense…. but instead of her being such a killjoy, you treat her like the infant she really is and tell her “you seem like you would make a really good friend”. before she even thinks about it.

This is mostly to combat the auto-response women have constantly thinking every man wants to bang her all the time “I HAVE A BOYFRIEND!!! I JUST WANT TO BE FRIENDS!!!”

Calm down, sister, I just said “hi”.
Friend-zone her first so she can finally get over herself.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

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