How others react to your views about women

[ironheartParticipant 942]

Lucas Buck wrote:

When you put it like that, it makes sense. I suppose I naively think that if someone holds views which I can show them are mistaken, they will see that they were wrong and change their minds. Because that is how I would be. But clearly, as you say, a lot of people are not like that. 

It is the nature of honorable men to want to preserve decency and society, and educate others when they are wrong.  Never apologize for being a decent man trying to do the right thing.

 

"Women have become so full of hatred that they are blind to reason and humanity. That which they practice will be the end of humanity, long before any war that men may fight.." "Women are predators by nature. Why else do you think they are so quick to gang up and go after a man they hate for showing any sign of weakness?"

[VoidraitheParticipant 477]

If I do get to talking to people about my beliefs I make sure to let them know that they are my beliefs. They don’t have to agree but I’m not looking to debate my beliefs. It is my life and I will do with it what I want and if that means I don’t want to get into a relationship I won’t. I have mentioned to people around me sometimes how I feel but only if they are close friends and/or family. I have some rules I adhere to when talking to people I know.

Don’t be angry or hostile. Don’t let people get you worked up. Be prepared for shaming and mockery. Stand your ground, don’t yield to them. Counter emotional arguments with logic.

It’s worked for me with my family. My brother is older than I am and have been used by women over and over. He’s been taken for cash and recently got scammed by a coke head skank after she “twisted her ankle on his steps”. He paid out a couple thousand dollars to just make her go away yet he’s still very Blue Pill. He completely understands why I am how I am even saying on occasions that I was the smartest one in the family avoiding all the relationship drama.  I have an older sister and younger sister. My older sister cheated on her engineer husband with a musician and divorced. My younger sister has a common law husband and seems to not even want to get married. Not sure why possibly the divorces she’s has a front row seat for. Neither sister has asked or seems to care about my relationships (or lack there of). My parents divorced right after the last of us children turned eighteen, again I never got a clear answer why. My Dad has never asked me about my relationships and doesn’t seem to care much as long as I am happy. My Mom used to ask periodically about if I had any girls in my life and so on but has stopped. We had a long discussion about 7 years ago in which (I still was unaware of MGTOW at the time) I told her why I don’t date anymore and why I probably will never marry. She hasn’t asked since then.

[JollyMisanthropeParticipant 3356]

I don’t waste my time talking to most people so it never comes up. If I run into someone that’s spouting cliche political ideas I make an exit as quick as I can. Once in awhile I’ll run into someone that will see the hypocrisy when it comes to how men are treated differently than women for the same crimes and what not. I just really don’t like talking politics with most people as it’s just rehashing the same old s~~~. Even with MGTOW there’s only so many times I can read about the same concepts before I get bored because I get them. It’s just my personality and not a reflection on anyone else.

The problems in the world are pretty obvious, I just don’t see the point in going over them repeatedly. However I can’t blame people for wanting to vent their frustration every once in awhile and hopefully they are becoming more aware of the root cause of things and not stuck on the symptoms.

 

The Children of Doom... Doom's Children. They told my lord the way to the Mountain of Power. They told him to throw down his sword and return to the Earth... Ha! Time enough for the Earth in the grave.

[bigboy83Participant 11312]

I wouldn’t worry about it things change, I don’t think feminism had a easy road either, you don’t think men weren’t p~~~ when women left the kitchen.

Some of my friends tell me, never get married it sucks! And some say when are you getting married? I ask them why? They don’t say much after that.

Their not going to like it over night, or a week or a month or a year. These men who argue, fear they have something to lose.

Shit Tested, Cunt Approved.

[John DoeParticipant 743]

Lucas Buck wrote:

I’m wondering how others here cope with friends and family members who find their views about women objectionable?

Some men prefer to hold a high standard in how they respond (keep out shaming language/etc.).  Others will ignore the people.  Some try to explain themselves.

I prefer being the “asshole” they shouldn’t have talked too.

I tell them my views.  Then I explain why I hold those views.  Then I tell them that is what I am going to do, and that they can deal with it.

If there is any subtle shaming language I dish it back.

When some men see a fly they use a flyswatter.  I prefer to use a sledgehammer.  I will point out all the abuses, at the hands of women, I have either experienced or observed in family, friends, others.  Then I will rub it in and go on a counter offensive.  I have/had/will make people cry.

With that being said, I try to avoid the topic of women/mgtow/politics/etc., unless someone brings it up.  When I go out, I try to keep my mouth shut and ears open.  I am done with taking bulls~~~ though.  Fortunately though, with the exception of family, I have had little to deal with.

[knightslayerParticipant 36]

only my brother knows how harsh my criticisms of women are. he’s slowly ingesting the red pill, but i’m not sure if he’ll ever identify as mgtow. no one else knows because one: it’s a huge pain in the ass to hear the bickering, and two: i will lose a lot of support for my creative works. if i could make stuff based on mgtow without worrying about the bills, i would, but creating stuff is all i have to fall back on.

[Anonymous 42]

John Doe wrote:

I prefer being the “asshole” they shouldn’t have talked too.

Hey JD, I know you’re more of a philosopher than I am, but I’m sure we’re on the same page when it comes to philosophy, the independent kind!

I have no problem speaking my mind; feminist women have found me disturbing to their trite-full gibberish. I tend to leave some of them stunned, holding the bag of truth, with nothing to say….  My arguments usually end with the opponents frustrated and wallowing in denial.

A mental short circuit is my prime directive when confronting a feminist’s denial. The truth can be spectacular and stunning, but only if you’re willing to light the fuse.

IDGAF what people think! FUBAR is the truth about feminism!

[GoneGaltParticipant 361]

Both parents are dead over 15 years ago, one of my brothers is a full MGTOW while there is no reason whatsoever to mention it to my other brother who’s been happily married for over 39 years to a NAWALT. I will mention it, however, to both of his sons once they wise up and get out of their relationships but there is no good reason for me to as they surely won’t listen to me right now. As far as friends, the few I mentioned it to understand it and are thinking about it, the rest I don’t bother with.

I do mention MGTOW online whenever I get the chance but then it’s under another pseudonym. But I am not going to ‘come out’ to all my family and friends because I’m not a religious zealot, in the sense of feeling the need to convert everyone to my way of thinking. That’s why there’s a sign on my door telling pretty much everyone not to ring the doorbell unless I already know they’re coming or are expected routinely (like UPS). At some point there will be some trigger that splashes across the mainstream and men learn about MGTOW from that and it really goes viral – what that might be I don’t know. Maybe someone photoshops “I support MGTOW” in 10 inch letters on Kim Kardashian’s ass and gets TMZ to publish it thinking it’s real??

[rorickParticipant 682]

I have one cousin who agrees with all my views about women and how they controls and manipulates men .. But the movement he see a girl he becomes a mangina.. I was like WTF !!.. He was also been in a relationship when he was in school and college, and he termed that as pure love.. But both the girls left him and got married.. . Whenever i ask him, why you still want to get married or get in to a relationship with two girls leaving him already.. He just says that once you have fallen in love you can’t stay single anymore, not sure how true is this..

I already stopped sharing my views about women with this guy because i don’t wanna look like a villain in his parents eyes anymore, as they are so desperate to get their son married.

[John DoeParticipant 743]

People who do not share their political/religious/ideological viewpoints often do so expecting people to do the same thing.  However that in itself is a viewpoint, that many of its practitioners preach expecting others to convert to and understand.  Explaining this viewpoint is no different than explaining a religion or philosophy and expecting the recipient to convert. So one can say they have no intention of converting people, however this viewpoint does exactly that.

The common idea/phrase: “I don’t tell others my views, and in turn I expect others to keep it to themselves” is actually a viewpoint commonly preached as truth today.  That in itself is contradictory, because on one hand this view prohibits the discussion of personal values/religions/philosophies/politics however this view point is a personal value/piece of religious dogma/philosophy/political stance.

One cannot avoid expressing ones views, or lack of them.  It is inevitable.  Even if one “feels” a certain way, the action in itself of avoiding the topic speaks another.

 

[Lucas BuckParticipant 51]

rorick wrote:

He just says that once you have fallen in love you can’t stay single anymore, not sure how true is this..

Not true at all.  I mean, it might be in his case, insofar as if you believe that you need something to be happy then it’s a self fulfilling prophecy.  But it isn’t true in my case.

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