How long until MGTOW men fully turn into Japanese herbivores

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  • #273809
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    Faxmodem
    Faxmodem
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    It got me thinking about the herbivore men in Japan. I am wondering how long will it take for the men of MGTOW to fully turn into them. Or are we already there? That a lot of us have turned our backs to women, and that we don’t need them any more, As we can live just fine with out them.

    What do you guys think?

    Us men didn't start the battle of the sexes, but we're clearly going to win it via the simple tactic of just leaving the battlefield in contempt."

    #273816
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    Anonymous
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    Material wealth without spiritual health makes a recipe for widespread hypergamy, it’s happening in all developed countries! I want no part of all the mental illness!

    I wish I was in the superpipe right now launching air off the rim! It’s the furthest place I know from insanity!

    #273820
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    http://i0.wp.com/voices.avoiceformen.com/mgtow/wp-content/uploads/sites/21/2014/03/Morioka-Table-1.png

    Note the characteristic: “View women as equals”

    The ONLY equality between men & women is God’s Natural Laws [Love, Worship, Liberty, Physical Laws (e.g. Physics, Chemistry, etc), & Health Laws] treat us equally. Apart from that “equality” there is NONE.

    We are part of the same species [with 2 arms/legs/eyes/ears/ etc], but, even within that sameness, our physical systems are very different. The only system(s) that are the same are our circulatory systems [and, arguably, the integumentary system]. The other 7-8 are not.

    The idea that men & women are 100% “equal” is the foundation of the feminist house of horse s~~~. It is a cornerstone made of turd.

    When women lead, destruction is the destination. -- Me.

    #273822
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    Anonymous
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    Leave it to the Japanese to take Chad to a whole new level.

    “Women are looking for non-realistic love.” So very, very true. I do like seeing this guy rinsing women though.

    #273831
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    Anonymous
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    I do like seeing this guy rinsing women

    Hey C-Pig, he’s not rinsing them, he doesn’t lie the them, he doesn’t steel from them, he doesn’t deceive them, he just strokes their lonely hearts like a little kitten, then if he likes them he rolls them over and the kitten becomes a pussy…

    #273838
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    The_Mad_Pirate
    The_Mad_Pirate
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    I am not sure the third condition of calhoun’s mice utopia can be replicated in the west as well as in universe 25 ( aka japan). It took the japanese two generations to get to a similar state than mgtow men and one more generation to get to its current state probably taking birth rates below single digits in next one or two generations.

    "We didn't start the fire. It was always burning. Since the world's been turning" "A world that vilifies men only breeds a generation of men that feel no empathy towards women" “In a woman’s mind , there is really no such thing as a ‘we’. In her eyes, earth allways revolves around her, not the other way around. So thinking that your needs , aspirations or desires are valid enough to be persued, or even that you are entitled achive such goals, is like asking your boss for a pay rise in your very first day at the job.”

    #273842
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    Tuneout
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    http://i0.wp.com/voices.avoiceformen.com/mgtow/wp-content/uploads/sites/21/2014/03/Morioka-Table-1.png

    Note the characteristic: “View women as equals”

    The ONLY equality between men & women is God’s Natural Laws [Love, Worship, Liberty, Physical Laws (e.g. Physics, Chemistry, etc), & Health Laws] treat us equally. Apart from that “equality” there is NONE.

    We are part of the same species [with 2 arms/legs/eyes/ears/ etc], but, even within that sameness, our physical systems are very different. The only system(s) that are the same are our circulatory systems [and, arguably, the integumentary system]. The other 7-8 are not.

    The idea that men & women are 100% “equal” is the foundation of the feminist house of horse s~~~. It is a cornerstone made of turd.

    It seems they still want some sort of relationship with women but approach it from a
    ’emo’ point of view.
    Not being assertive and seeing women as just human beings is closer to feminist ideals and liberal beta
    male behaviour IMO.
    MGTOW’s for me anyway are closer to the Zeta male
    who retains their manly traits,after all there are some things a man must do to remain one.

    Lifes a bitch,but you don't have to marry one!

    #273848
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    STORM
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    Herbivore, is quite different from MGTOW. A MGTOW is a manly, somewhat assertive male, that still has his testosterone intact, while herbivor tends to be guys who would rather live on a puffy cloud consisting of video games, anime, with a touch of emo. They may look at their interactions with women in a softer tone than us MGTOW’s do, but in the end they accomplish similar results, as shown in Japanese statistics.

    Oddly enough i don’t think most herbivores have the goal of being single, but the fact they are so shy around the girls, just happens to keep them single. The young men in Japan are intimidated by attractive females, and won’t look at them for more than a split second, and are terrified of talking to them. In general terms, MGTOW’s have lost the desire to be in a relationship, while herbivores are much more shy and withdrawn from society. Both are a good thing, as neither ends up providing a female with what she wants.

    If we listen to a female at all, It's no longer to find out if they're crazy, we know they're crazy, It's to find out what flavor.

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    Anonymous
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    he’s not rinsing them, he doesn’t lie the them

    True, he does not have to lie. See how crazy women get when a fraction of the available c~~~s are not out hunting. Only a young gay host catering to chicken hawks could do that in the States.

    #273857
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    Anonymous
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    True, he does not have to lie. See how crazy women get when a fraction of the available c~~~s are not out hunting. Only a young gay host catering to chicken hawks could do that in the States.

    DUde I had one brush by me the other day in heals, she was so befuddled that I apparently hadn’t noticed her she stumbled as she went by, once you learn their psychology they’re literally walking on banana peals. Take it from a country-boy/city-slicker, I’m feeling more and more vindicated over the red stiletto incident, it’s almost comical, popped ego in high heels on banana peels!

    #273860
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    Anonymous
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    God forbid you did not “notice her”.

    How do their cats even stand them???

    #273863
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    Experienced
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    Female perspectice..MGTOW IS INVASION OF THE MAN SNATCHERS.

    This, is gold. MGTOW gold.
    It IMO is the essence of MGTOW from the laydeez perspective.
    A flashbulb going off in laydeez’ brains.
    The men are talking among each other?!! How DARE they! That is OUR monopoly! They are NOT allowed to talk among each other ever!, unless two or more of us are present to beat them down with shaming. They are comparing NOTES! Actually SHARING their experiences?!! The Gall! THE IMPUDENCE! THE SHAMELESSNESS!

    THE C~~~INESS!
    the c~~~iness
    That’s right LAYDEEZ: MEN with B~~~~. Get used to it or get used to being alone. Looks like you’ve already made your choice ladies. Go munch rug.

    "It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

    #273902
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    Anonymous
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    God forbid you did not “notice her”.

    How do their cats even stand them???

    Oh, I noticed her, she didn’t notice I noticed her, cause I’m slick! She’s so worried about her image she’s asking herself if her mascara was running or if she smelt like fish…

    As far as her cats getting along with her? Apparently from what hitman says caned tuna wiped in already fishy places…

    #273928
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    Anonymous
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    It took the japanese two generations to get to a similar state than mgtow men and one more generation to get to its current state probably taking birth rates below single digits in next one or two generations.

    Governments are panicking right now. Population growth is key to consumer demand and therefore the health of the State. It is why the E.U. is taking refugees in even though the people do not want them for the most part.

    The rise of Fascism my friends. Pay attention. FIAT money Ponzi schemes along with Corporate influence on governments call the shots, not the people. Socialism itself is a Ponzi scheme, without following generations of equal or greater population it falls apart.

    Without growth, Ponzi schemes fall apart.

    Don’t panic, all is going as planned. They will play this game to the end. As it is building empires for a few and giving governments more and more power as Fascism rises.

    #273940
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    OldBill
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    I am wondering how long will it take for the men of MGTOW to fully turn into them.

    MGTOW and the herbivore phenomenon are only superficially similar. No one who thoughtfully examines the two would conclude they are anything alike or that one leads to the other.

    The herbivore phenomenon is just one part of the growing social withdrawal spectrum. Herbivores are basically “high functioning” hikkomoris. Instead of being supported by their parents like hikkomoris, herbivores support themselves.

    Herbivores are basically passive. They live their lives as if they were treading water. There is no improvement, no growth, no learning. They are content to let the current carry them along until death ends the banality of their lives.

    MGTOW, on the other hand, is about men reclaiming their personal sovereignty. It’s about taking agency in your life, it’s about actively making choices rather than lapsing into supine acceptance.

    Asserting sovereignty can be accomplished in any number of ways, hence the “Going your own way” emphasis of MGTOW. Thus, while some MGTOW choose to be reclusive and eschew all women all of the time, not every MGTOW does or needs to do so.

    Social withdrawal is a core behavior among all herbivores.

    Social withdrawal is a personal choice for some MGTOWs.

    Herbivores are not MGTOWs because they’re going nowhere.

    What do you guys think?

    If a newer member had asked this, I would have strongly suspected the “question” to be a trolling attempt. Seeing as you’ve been here for a year or so, I’ll chalk it up to an ignorance or a lack of understanding of the facts.

    Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

    #273942
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    You see? This is what happens when men collectively turn their backs on society. Once the men stop chasing then the roles are reversed. Women have to PAY MEN just to spend time with them. Imagine if that s~~~ happened in the US. Women have so much invested in men chasing women that if it ever stopped, society would grind to a halt just like this.

    As for herbivore men, I think they are a unique take on mgtow or vice versa. Japan is incredibly repressive, men are expected to work long ass work weeks and that’s normal.

    “The nail that sticks out gets hammered down”

    That’s an old proverb from Japan, and it holds true. So the herbivore men are a unique response to society’s ill will toward men in Japan. MGTOW is the response in the west.

    Feminism is a movement where opinions are presented as facts and emotions are presented as evidence.

    #274097
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    Atton
    Atton
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    MGTOW has a much deeper understanding of the issues than the herbivores do. I think in this sense MGTOW has far surpassed the herbivore, however the herbivore man complies fully to MGTOW either way. So this is really kind of a strange question when you think about it.

    A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

    #274162
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    Skeptisk
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    Herbivore, is quite different from MGTOW. A MGTOW is a manly, somewhat assertive male, that still has his testosterone intact, while herbivor tends to be guys who would rather live on a puffy cloud consisting of video games, anime, with a touch of emo. They may look at their interactions with women in a softer tone than us MGTOW’s do, but in the end they accomplish similar results, as shown in Japanese statistics.

    Oddly enough i don’t think most herbivores have the goal of being single, but the fact they are so shy around the girls, just happens to keep them single. The young men in Japan are intimidated by attractive females, and won’t look at them for more than a split second, and are terrified of talking to them. In general terms, MGTOW’s have lost the desire to be in a relationship, while herbivores are much more shy and withdrawn from society. Both are a good thing, as neither ends up providing a female with what she wants.

    It seems you’ve exposed the real difference between MGTOW and Herbivore men. The end results, however, is still the same. No resources to women.

    "Expecting to find a decent woman on a dating site is like dumpster diving and expecting to come out with a gourmet meal." Won'tGetFooledAgain

    #274192
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    Experienced
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    Beware the loaded question.
    “fully” ??

    “Check your premises.”

    How long until mangina’s have full periods? ..

    "It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

    #274210
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    Zuberi Tau
    Zuberi Tau
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    10606

    The Japanese herbivores aren’t even in our league.
    That being said, they are making their government nervous and frustrated.

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