How has MGTOW changed your life?

[Silverstone the SecondParticipant]

I made a thread, and it seems nobody likes the whole classification thing, so I thought I’d rephrase.

What Level of MGTOW are you?

How has MGTOW changed your life? Do you still bother dating women or do you say f~~~ it? Do you have to work with women? Do you totally ghost? Have your goals in life shifted since MGTOW? From chasing pussy to actually having fun?

For me, I still date from time to time, but never approach women, in fact I make it a point to troll women in real life. I like to take the p~~~ out of women. For me, seeing marriage and how s~~~ty divorce is, I knew I never wanted to get married. Women start treating you different once they realize you aren’t drooling for their pussy. I’ve spent my free time making music, writing, and learning sound design.

So, how has MGTOW changed your life?

Feminism is a movement where opinions are presented as facts and emotions are presented as evidence.

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

I am 30% less unhappy. I am 30% less lonely. I realize my subconscious decision to never marry or have children was the right choice. That all women are really like that.

It didn’t save my life, but it allowed me to disconnect the societal conditioning from my happiness level.

That I am not alone in my choices.

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

[uchibenkeiParticipant 7965]

Mgtow hasn’t changed my life. I changed it.

I bathe in the tears of single moms.

[Anonymous 29]

I was not aware of MGTOW 30+ years ago .
I only found out I was living it for decades when I stumbled on a few articles about it.
So nothing changed either by sheer luck or stupidity.

[Faust For ScienceParticipant 22556]

While I am not really happy, am I am much calmer and more at peace since learning about MGTOW. This is due to the fact I realize that no matter what I could have done, the game is rigged. From my personal life, and family, to culture, to the law, to society. The game is rigged that I would lose no matter what I did.

I see that life is a negative sum game. No matter how much effort I put into improving my life, I always came out worse than when I started. I didn’t even break even.

Because of this I have no real regrets.

One of the reasons I keep going is in the hopes I would see the collapse of society. I may not survive the collapse, but to actually know it is happening would be the major validation in my beliefs.

[JackinovParticipant 5229]

MGTOW allowed me to relinquish the shame and embarrassment for daring to suggest even living my life for myself, enabling me to not a give a s~~~ and say “F~~~ you” to those who disapprove of anything that isn’t working your ass off for a woman, and actually enjoying your life.

are you a chia pet in man drag

[Rolling Tin FistParticipant 484]

MGTOW has answered questions in my life that have gone unanswered for decades. I feel like I’ve learned a lifetime’s worth of stuff in the last year since taking the red pill. While I am married, I’m less stressed, have and make more money, have a better relationship with my kids and my day-to-day living and working environment is a little less toxic, and I’m healthier. I’m also doing more epic $#!+ that I used to do more off when I was in my 20s. Managing my wife and marriage is also easier.

On the flip side, the red-pill rage, while shorter than I expected, did leave a lasting sadness that will take much longer to reconcile. The red-pill confirmed a lot of things I suspected about women, relationships, and Gynocentrism but that I brushed off or just couldn’t solve for X. I know now that the way Western marriage today is marketed to society and particularly men is a total and utter sham and organized religion and politics are part of this sham.

Also, to quote Turd Flinging Monkey, she’ll never love you. For women it is always about resources. Briffault’s Law crystallized his for me.

In the end I prefer the real world to the matrix and I’m learning everyday to keep taking the redpill, and using its knowledge to my advantage.

"Love is the delusion that one woman differs from another" - H. L. Mencken

[coolthingy450Participant 1223]

Mgtow just connected the ideas that accumulate over the years, I just started seeing though the bulls~~~ people tried to force feed me after getting burned once or twice. Though I did knew better and thought that I could handle it for the sake of learning and playing. Boy was that dumb.

Most of the dates I ended up with women were unplanned so to speak. And I don’t mind dating a girl I want to f~~~, But I will make it clear to the person that I want to have sex at some point and that, If you want to marry and have kids, then it’s best that we break up because that isn’t going to happen.

Actions have consequences and consequences have prices. Cause and effect at work.

[FunInTheSunParticipant 8283]

During my life, people have shamed me for not getting laid, not having a girlfriend, not having money, and not having an interesting life. That kind of influence has led to self-shaming and developing a low self-esteem. I’ve decided to “change the channel” so to speak. My new channel has a constant stream of programming that’s geared toward self-improvement, interesting hobbies, and interesting things to learn about. I ignore what other people think I should do, and focus on what I think I should do. It’s a liberating experience to walk away from the trends, the norms, and the expectations of my society. Since I have spent the first half of my life making mistakes and being ignorant, I think it would be best to spend the second half of my life gaining information that will help me to prosper in this world. I wasn’t much of a conversationalist during my youth. Lately I’ve found that conversations are a bit easier because I’m not concerned if people like me or if they think I’m an unusual person. I just let my personality shine for better or worse. I’ve found that most people feel okay around me if I feel okay with my character traits. There is some truth to what Mr. Rogers says about people liking you just the way you are. I’ve also found that the more topics I read about, the more stuff I’ll have to talk about. I have less moments of shyness & awkward silent moments during conversations.

If anyone out there grew up being shy, like me, I’d like you to know that this world is supposed to have a variety of people. That’s what makes humanity interesting. Some extroverts wish to create a society where everyone is expected to be talkative. That’s bulls~~~. I value people who are naturally quiet because they often come up with brilliant ideas during periods of deep thought/introspection. And brilliant ideas help us all to survive and thrive better.

"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)

[WallyParticipant]

I grew up hoping not all women are like that, but my dad instilled red pill ideas in me growing up. I hoped that he was wrong. I knew he was unhappy in his marriage and I saw the crap my mom put him through. Up until a 8 months ago I thought it was possible to meet someone and get married but then I looked around me and realized all women are like that. I had not discovered the term MGTOW till a little later and it confirmed in my mind I was not wrong and not alone.

"what a waste of a life, to marry, give up your freedom, just for the hope of not dying alone. Don't get married Son."

[MattNYCParticipant 2329]

After my divorce i was going along the MGTOW path, without knowing the name of it. Living my life for me only – no marriage/kids, no serious relations~~~s with women. That made me fulfilled & happy.

Finding the MGTOW community helped me realize i’m not the only one. That in and of itself is really helpful – i’ve done my own cost-benefit analysis re: women. It’s nice to know other guys are hitting the exact same conclusion.

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

I wanted to add that knowing the truth about women has made such a huge difference.

Looking back it explains everything. If MGTOW was a club with weekly meetings I wouldn’t join. I’m not a joiner. The thing is that MGTOW is factual, reasonable, just makes sense. It just does.

The red pill analogy is so right on.

Also, I haven’t heard Tom Leykis mention MGTOW by name but damn he is the radio MGTOW. I don’t want to sound stupid or cultist but he gives the advice my dad never gave me.

@keymaster.

Thanks for being here (and putting up with me). I’ve offered a moderate donation before, don’t say I didn’t offer. You must be 300 years old. your wisdom exceeds Yoda. I don’t always agree with you but you are rarely wrong. Thanks for being here.

@everyone,

Thank you and tell your stories. They matter. Others read them and learn.

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

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