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I love jerking off as I can think clearly afterwards. If I go for a few days of not ejaculating, even the ugliest girls start to look attractive… F~~~ no, I’m not dealing with that.
If it has tits or tires, you know you're going to have problems.
Jerk off as much as you want to.
Don’t worry about it.
It’s good for your health.Ideally, yes masturbation is harmless. But unfortunately, in order for us to masturbate, it requires fantasizing. This fantasting constantly increases, and in a short matter of time, you’ll get to the point where you can only get off to some really f~~~ed up s~~~ you used to think was disgusting.
Really? Masturbation is healthy? What kind of skewed liberal garbage articles are you reading?
Everyone check out this site:
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What I think is you guys love it too much to even consider looking at the consequences. I’m not telling you to stop doing it, I’m saying to at least know what you’re talking about.Asks the questions.
For advice.
Slams the advice.tun
I guess I did come off a bit harsh. But it goes against every fibre of my being to not start some sort of argument lol.
"In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem, government is the problem." - Ronald Reagan
@Lone Wolf
I’d recommend you question and consider all that you are told about porn or anything else for that matter. People will often have an agenda that you aren’t telling you. They’ll also tell you the facts and the conclusion they want you to come to without giving you all the fact and relevant information
Just reading one of the articles from your site, they talk about the addictive nature of porn, the release of dopamine. I don’t doubt that that is the truth. But how is porn different from sex in that regard. If it takes more and crazier porn to get off, wouldn’t it then be true that it takes more and crazier sex to get off as well? Why aren’t they encouraging people to have less sex as well as less porn? Because they already concluded that sex is good and porn is bad.
Really, I don’t think you can declare something as bad just because a person gets less dopamine release the more they do the act. I’m sure a skier would get excited the first time they are on a bunny slope, but eventually won’t get excited on anything but a black diamond after years of skiing. Does that mean skiing is bad for you?
I’m not saying ignore the facts, just take them for what they are and draw your own conclusions. Don’t let anyone draw conclusions for you.
Ok. Then do it.
As a young man its tough—just saying the word pussy gives you a woody; you’ve got the hormones raging and you are surrounded by a culture/programming that tells you to “get it on”.
Believe it or not it is possible to occupy your mind with other more useful things than sex—but if you have to as Stealthy would say–there is always the fleshlight. Nothing wrong with that at all. Grab yourself of a copy of Hustler’s barely legal and enjoy. You will find in time the urge decreases and finally disappears all together. The trick is to survive with your sanity and finances in tact until you reach that point.
When I was about 25, some guy gave me a great tip.
Jerk off just BEFORE going on a date.What a difference! Changes your attitude and it’s very relaxed, you sink back in your chair, don’t talk as much, and if sex doesn’t happen it’s no big deal.
I got similar advice on love.
“If you think you’re in love jerk off, and then jerk off again. Then see how you feel about her?”So I’d think you’d be able to infer that I’m about as horny as a rhino on Viagra.
Realize this is a vulnerable and dangerous place to be. Don’t add any alcohol to it.
If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.
@Lone Wolf
I’d recommend you question and consider all that you are told about porn or anything else for that matter. People will often have an agenda that you aren’t telling you. They’ll also tell you the facts and the conclusion they want you to come to without giving you all the fact and relevant information
Just reading one of the articles from your site, they talk about the addictive nature of porn, the release of dopamine. I don’t doubt that that is the truth. But how is porn different from sex in that regard. If it takes more and crazier porn to get off, wouldn’t it then be true that it takes more and crazier sex to get off as well? Why aren’t they encouraging people to have less sex as well as less porn? Because they already concluded that sex is good and porn is bad.
Really, I don’t think you can declare something as bad just because a person gets less dopamine release the more they do the act. I’m sure a skier would get excited the first time they are on a bunny slope, but eventually won’t get excited on anything but a black diamond after years of skiing. Does that mean skiing is bad for you?
I’m not saying ignore the facts, just take them for what they are and draw your own conclusions. Don’t let anyone draw conclusions for you.
Those are very good points, I guess sex can be seen as a harmful drug too. But….
After quitting maturbation: I’ve been more patient, I’ve had more self-control, more focus, more time, less depression, I’ve been able to see women as individuals, and I’ve had surprisingly less of a desire for sex.
Although it may not be a “drug,” that does not mean that it’s harmless.
"In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem, government is the problem." - Ronald Reagan
a short matter of time, you’ll get to the point where you can only get off to some really f~~~ed up s~~~ you used to think was disgusting.
Been fapping for 20 years now. Since I was in grade 2 roughly and never in all my life did I ever reach a point where I needed depraved content to get it off. I never got into hardcore porn despite seeing it and being exposed to it by others over the years, or anything worse.
Fapping is good for keeping your lizard brain from making you do stupid things. This worked lately when dealing with pretty girl at work. I knew I was being influenced by her. But I went home and fapped it off and now I don’t care.
Although it may not be a “drug,” that does not mean that it’s harmless.
No matter what you decide I have to say protect yourself. Get a BIG bucket of condoms and keep them on you at all times.
Go Your Own Way and don’t do anything that will take that choice away from you.If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.
a short matter of time, you’ll get to the point where you can only get off to some really f~~~ed up s~~~ you used to think was disgusting.
Been fapping for 20 years now. Since I was in grade 2 roughly and never in all my life did I ever reach a point where I needed depraved content to get it off. I never got into hardcore porn despite seeing it and being exposed to it by others over the years, or anything worse.
Fapping is good for keeping your lizard brain from making you do stupid things. This worked lately when dealing with pretty girl at work. I knew I was being influenced by her. But I went home and fapped it off and now I don’t care.
Really? 20 years? Huh, I’m curious. What’s the longest you’ve gone without fapping and did you feel any different?
"In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem, government is the problem." - Ronald Reagan
@Lone Wolf
I’d recommend you question and consider all that you are told about porn or anything else for that matter. People will often have an agenda that you aren’t telling you. They’ll also tell you the facts and the conclusion they want you to come to without giving you all the fact and relevant information
Just reading one of the articles from your site, they talk about the addictive nature of porn, the release of dopamine. I don’t doubt that that is the truth. But how is porn different from sex in that regard. If it takes more and crazier porn to get off, wouldn’t it then be true that it takes more and crazier sex to get off as well? Why aren’t they encouraging people to have less sex as well as less porn? Because they already concluded that sex is good and porn is bad.
Really, I don’t think you can declare something as bad just because a person gets less dopamine release the more they do the act. I’m sure a skier would get excited the first time they are on a bunny slope, but eventually won’t get excited on anything but a black diamond after years of skiing. Does that mean skiing is bad for you?
I’m not saying ignore the facts, just take them for what they are and draw your own conclusions. Don’t let anyone draw conclusions for you.
I recommend you read this short article that I just read on dopamine. It turns out that dopamine can’t be pinned down to one thing, it’s very complex and it seems to be nothing that we describe it as.
"In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem, government is the problem." - Ronald Reagan
Great question Lone Wolf. First off, evidence suggests that frequent ejaculation is good for the prostate:
I know what you are saying about getting caught up in the fantasy aspect. But if you just wait until you are extremely horny before proceeding, then the image of Hillary Clinton would suffice, yes? Wait long enough between sessions and there will be no need for ever increasing levels of fantasizing. Porn is not necessary either. Create an “internal video database” in your head that you can refer to when you need it.Dealing with women, going your own way, to me means giving the middle finger to what the herd says you should be doing.
YOU decide what you want from women. YOU decide what you want to avoid from women. Then create a life that reflects that. Everyone will be different on this, some avoid women totally (probably easiest), while some (like me) still like to get laid from time to time but would rather die than get married or knock some chick up. So one becomes a master strategist in a way to make it all work smoothly and avoid the potential bumps in the road. The important thing is to enjoy whatever you decide to do.
I suppose it depends on how much risk you’re comfortable with. If you don’t like risk you should avoid.
Great question Lone Wolf. First off, evidence suggests that frequent ejaculation is good for the prostate:
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I know what you are saying about getting caught up in the fantasy aspect. But if you just wait until you are extremely horny before proceeding, then the image of Hillary Clinton would suffice, yes? Wait long enough between sessions and there will be no need for ever increasing levels of fantasizing. Porn is not necessary either. Create an “internal video database” in your head that you can refer to when you need it.Dealing with women, going your own way, to me means giving the middle finger to what the herd says you should be doing.
YOU decide what you want from women. YOU decide what you want to avoid from women. Then create a life that reflects that. Everyone will be different on this, some avoid women totally (probably easiest), while some (like me) still like to get laid from time to time but would rather die than get married or knock some chick up. So one becomes a master strategist in a way to make it all work smoothly and avoid the potential bumps in the road. The important thing is to enjoy whatever you decide to do.
What a great way to sum everything up. Waiting long periods of time between each session does seem like a good idea and I might consider it, if this whole absolute abstinence thing doesn’t workout for me.
But regardless of any of that, the overall takeaway is the importance of each man going his own way. Although every person on this website is rebelling against societal expectations for men, that doesn’t mean we are all forced to go the same way. This site is not about what’s best for everybody, but about what’s best for the man himself.
Thank you everyone for your time and contributions.
"In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem, government is the problem." - Ronald Reagan
OK, I’m new here, but I have a slightly different take.All my life, my best friends have always been women. They make great friends! I have never had a problem with women until it went beyond platonic. I think love and sex are twin poisons and absolutely lethal to friendship. When a woman enters into a “love relationship” she feels she has a vested interest in your life. If it turns sexual, the she feels an absolute entitlement to control your life; a kind of pay for play thing. Some women are not like that, but they are EXTREMELY rare; so rare, in fact, that in 61 years of walking this earth, I have only ever met ONE.
Masturbation… A sticky, pardon the pun, situation. Understand, at the time of the admonition, “it is better to sow your seed in the belly of a whore than cast it on the ground” was bantered about, there were a lot fewer people in the world. The order of the day was, “be fruitful and multiply!”Folks had tons of kids! Heck, my GrandDad had 14 brothers and sisters, and 17 aunts and uncles, just on his fathers side. Well, we have multiplied till there are are approaching 7.5 BILLION of us now. I don’t think casting a little seed on the ground is going to end the world. And think about this, with birth control pills and safe sex practices, sex today is nothing more than mutual masturbation, anyway.I don’t believe in female magic anymore. And will never again gut myself to make room for it. --Narwhal--
Going forward I will have a rule that states if I feel romantic Love then I have to step back because that means I’ve been COMPROMISED Akin to being kissed by Poison Ivy from Batman. I see no other way right now but to keep them at a distance to minimize contamination. Their nature ins known, the danger is real. ABANDON HOPE ALL YE WHO ENTER THERE
“Do not give your strength to women, nor your ways to that which destroys kings.” -Proverbs 31:3-
Anonymous12WE ARE THE FIRST GENERATION IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD TO FACE THE ISSUE OF PORNOGRAPHY TO THIS INTENSITY AND SCALE. WE’RE ALSO THE FIRST GENERATION WITH A SCIENTIFIC, FACT-BASED UNDERSTANDING OF THE HARM PORNOGRAPHY CAN DO.
With an all-inclusive approach, we carry our anti-pornography message across borders of religious beliefs, political agenda, and social backgrounds by presenting it as a public health issue, rather than as a moral, political or religious argument.
As a nonprofit organization, we at Fight the New Drug give live presentations on the harmful effects of pornography in schools (public and private) and universities throughout North America. In just five years, we have toured the country and presented our message to over 300 schools reaching hundreds of thousands of teens.
come on now…
a group of opinionated people that bully others into nofap.
for the country. for love. for the population.
for marriage.I rather fap than chase a skirt.
Do whatchu wanna do, but these Nutjobs… jesus.okay.
reading this:
http://learn.ftnd.org/After being exposed to pornography, men reported being less satisfied with their partners’ physical appearance, sexual performance, and level of affection and express greater desire for sex without emotional involvement.
Fapping= want no real human.
Awesome! no false rape claim, no police, no kids, FINE!!!Partners of porn users often report feeling angry, confused, and betrayed when they find out that the other half of their committed relationship has been watching porn. Users may have no idea how they are hurting their own relationships and the people they love.
Given that watching porn is something that “only boys do” i take it using a vibrator to induce an orgasm in under 30 seconds is okay.
Its only done by women, so not a boy thing so not porn so okay.
No matter how confused a man is, no matter how angry he feels and how inadequate he feels.
Boys porn is verbot, but phat dildoes and vibrators are okay.
F~~~ them.The evidence that porn can harm relationships and partners is overwhelming. [3]
as long as it keeps ME under control, i go for it and jerk off my balcony onto the neighbors patio.
MY WAY first.When you have a sexual experience that feels good, your brain starts creating new pathways to connect what you’re doing to the pleasure you’re feeling. The same thing happens the first time you watch porn. Your brain starts building new pathways in response to this very powerful new experience. [7] It’s saying, “This feels great! Let’s do this again.”
so good sex is as addictive as good fapping to porn.
So…?
Where exactly is the issue?But here’s the catch: your brain map operates on a “use it or lose it” principle. [8] Just like a hiking trail will start to grow over if it’s not getting walked on, brain pathways that don’t get traffic become weaker and can even be completely replaced by stronger pathways that get more use.
Awesome!
Fapping replaces Women!
No kids! no nagging! no marriage! no shaming! No drama, police, court alimony, prison, suicide and suchlike.How bad is the problem? Put it this way: doctors are seeing an epidemic of young men who, because of their porn use, can’t get it up with a real, live partner.
where is the problem?
That website is full of shaming Propaganda.
If This is the message you bring here, imma go ahead and label you a mangina, a tradcon, a “come back to the plantation” bulls~~~ter.Fapping to porn is no public health issue.
It is a male mental health improvement by disconnecting from women.
And that is a wonderful thing.Jerk off as much as you want to.
Don’t worry about it.
It’s good for your health.Ideally, yes masturbation is harmless. But unfortunately, in order for us to masturbate, it requires fantasizing. This fantasting constantly increases, and in a short matter of time, you’ll get to the point where you can only get off to some really f~~~ed up s~~~ you used to think was disgusting.
Really? Masturbation is healthy? What kind of skewed liberal garbage articles are you reading?
Everyone check out this site:
<iframe class=”wp-embedded-content” sandbox=”allow-scripts” security=”restricted” style=”position: absolute; clip: rect(1px, 1px, 1px, 1px);” src=”http://fightthenewdrug.org/get-the-facts/embed/#?secret=gJqaIp4qNx” data-secret=”gJqaIp4qNx” width=”500″ height=”282″ title=”“Get the Facts” — Fight the New Drug” frameborder=”0″ marginwidth=”0″ marginheight=”0″ scrolling=”no”></iframe>
What I think is you guys love it too much to even consider looking at the consequences. I’m not telling you to stop doing it, I’m saying to at least know what you’re talking about.I’m not going to say that Porn is a good thing or that any kind of addiction to anything is good but I am interested in this..
“A recent study of adolescent porn use concluded that the major messages presented by porn are male domination, hypermasculinity, and making male sexual pleasure the top priority.”
Did a woman write this? There might be many negative things about porn but why does these have to be negative?
Don't care
MGTOW does not want to tell you HOW to deal with women. What you should take away from the video’s and text on this site are the CONSEQUENCES of dealing with women.
Our western society is completely gynocentric. All focus is on the woman and she can have you fired, imprisoned or change her mind about a marriage and take at least 50% of everything you have worked for with no consequences.
MGTOW is the voice in your mind asking you to do a cost benefit calculation on how badly things could go if she “changes her mind”.
It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion, it is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning; it is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion.
The drive goes away with time.
YES, and the Driveway goes away with her, and the house, and the pension, and the alimony…and usually the cats
@lone wolf
and if it feels better not to beat it: don’t. lots of mental guilts over it but I don’t think the Gods give a f~~~ about that. if they do, they’ll tell you while you are in line.dogs lick their own and men and monkeys have opposable thumbs. horses cause divorces.
Human Male/Female Sex is the most normal pastime through the ages.(above just procreation)
And now a days man-raping is the new normal. Its a game, its a business. (North Dallas Forty)
let your brain and your reason guide you, no one else’s. mind the traps.with joy/without hate
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