How do you tell a lady you're going Dutch?

[Prefer Peace to PieceParticipant 10809]

I know a lot of us generally avoid women on principle. But on those occasions where you do take a lady out for dinner,
how do you tell a lady you’re going Dutch? Thanks gentlemen.

[WolfParticipant 890]

When you ask the waiter/waitress for the bill, ask for separate bills.

[Soldier-MedicParticipant 2566]

I would tell her that I was looking forward to the date but I’m broke right now.

"I asked you a question. I didn't ask you to repeat what the voices in you head are telling you" ~ Me. ........Yes I'm still angry.

[Anonymous 12]

It takes advance notice, sad but true.

[megatoad69Participant 449]

Soldier-Medic wrote:

I would tell her that I was looking forward to the date but I’m broke right now.

That cancels that date, problem solved!

You can't reason with unreasonable, there; women, figured out, there is nothing to reason.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

How do you tell a lady you’re going Dutch?

You don’t. You order FOR her.

You TELL her what she’s going to eat or drink.

You make it your policy that when a woman is your “guest”, she doesn’t get to “decide” what she wants – just as if she were a guest in your home. You don’t go to someone’s house for dinner and head for the fridge to CHOOSE, do you? Well then, she doesn’t get to do that either. As guest in your home, she would eat and drink what you give her, and she will be gracious or she can leave.

These f~~~ing chumps who take women out for dinner and drinks, and ask her what she wants – WHEN HE IS PAYING – are all out their f~~~ing minds. Some guys will even pay and ASK HER where she wants to go!

Madness.

Fortunately, most women born in the last 50 years are total c~~~s about this. They think a man should pay and they can just order whatever they want. Women expect men to pay, but then they automatically pick up a menu as if they are the Queen of Sheeba. They think ordering for her and telling her what she will eat is “sexist” or “controlling”. When she rolls her eyes and says “you’re not serious”, you smile and explain ….. if you invited her over for Duck a L’orange, she doesn’t get to “order” a STEAK.

Then you continue in a very friendly tone:

“Oh honey, you don’t have to eat and drink what I TELL you. You are 100% free to order whatever you want! But YOU will pay for it.”

BOOM! Roasted.

Now your average western bitch just f~~~ed herself into a corner.

“So decide. What’s more important to you? That you eat whatever you want? Or that a MAN PAYS FOR IT.”

Then you’ll find out who the “sexist” really is.
She’ll go dutch and pay for herself just to save face.

Enjoy.

AND PS. Some women will put on an act and PRETEND to be OK with it because they think they are smarter than you. So YOU order the 20oz Filet Mignon with fries and an extra side of hollandaise….. and tell the waiter “A small salad for the lady”. Then offer her a piece of bread and a water. If she’s hott, a glass of wine. That’s being generous! – especially since there is a drought in California. This also works wonders on her psyche if she could afford to lose a few pounds. An American entitlement bitch (like this) will go out of her f~~~ing mind.

Make sure you chew REALLY slowly, too. “MMMMmmmmmm this steak is SO good………”

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

I’d excuse myself to the bathroom and climb out the window. After I probably just sat there and listened to her bitch for an hour going Dutch is too expensive…she owes me!

[Anonymous 42]

The only Dutch I’m going, is to Amsterdam!

[OneforfreedomParticipant 930]

Wolf wrote:

When you ask the waiter/waitress for the bill, ask for separate bills.

Yeah but she can make an excuse (hey I thought you were paying for me so I left my wallet/purse at home)

[Mango IngawayParticipant 2264]

Just do it.
If she doesn’t like it, she’s allowed to go bitch like the strong independant women she is, but with another man who accepts to put up with that kind of stuff. 🙂

It is a common failing of childhood to think that if one makes a hero out of a demon the demon will be satisfied.

[WolfParticipant 890]

Oneforfreedom wrote:

Yeah but she can make an excuse (hey I thought you were paying for me so I left my wallet/purse at home)

That’s her problem – not yours. And you can tell her that.

After reading KM’s post, I like his idea better though 🙂

[WolveParticipant 191]

Anonymous wrote:

The only Dutch I’m going, is to Amsterdam!

I will welcome you happily in my home country just tell me when you’re coming it is a lot more fun talking with other MGTOW’s than going on a date anyways.

[Anonymous 29]

Prefer Peace to Piece wrote:

how do you tell a lady you’re going Dutch? Thanks gentlemen.

As a general principle, I always went dutch at least once or twice on first few dates with a new prospect. Not for the lack of money but as a deterrent to any freeloaders as far back as 40+ years ago.
When you are making arrangements with her for a date, be clear and specific. You have only so much money to spend and it can not be for two.
If she refuses you have lost nothing. Maybe a possible f~~~, but that is all. Possible does not equal certain, not by a long shot.
If she accepts there may be potential to her. You may buy her the last drink for the night as that may indicate to her that you are interested
You don’t have to play hard to get, but you can play hard to please.

[FrankOneParticipant 1417]

I would invite her to a picnic and/or a walk in a public park. That will tell you a lot about her. Then if she still goes for it, make some good sandwiches or pack some meat in a cooler and grill out (most parks have grills). For a second date suggest SHE plan something. Tell her you don’t like to eat out at white tablecloth restaurants and/or can’t afford it. If she’s into you, hopefully date #2 will be dinner at her place, cooked by her, followed by desert in her bedroom. If so, don’t be a chump! At least do the dishes! Obviously, if she’s an entitled bitch that believes the man should plan and pay for everything, there will be no date #2 (or #1 for that matter!). So much for ‘strong independent woman’. As for date #3, make her dinner at your place. Sorry, I don’t know what Unicorns eat, so other posters will have to provide further instructions for date #3. Actually, there are some ‘hippy chicks’ that will go for what I describe. If she’s carrying around a Coach bag, forget about it.

I’d add that you despise debt, brands, fancy cars, and anything that is going to lead to your slaving away in a cubicle for 40 years, somewhere in date #1. Tell her you believe in life simplification (even if you’re a millionaire). I’d also mention you believe ‘relationships’ should be 50/50, which also means, the woman pays for 50%. This will tell you a LOT about her. Be ready for rejection with my strategy, which I shall call ‘Dutch and Dateless’.

[Anonymous 42]

Wolve wrote:

I will welcome you happily in my home country just tell me when you’re coming it is a lot more fun talking with other MGTOW’s than going on a date anyways.

@wolf, I didn’t know you were from Holland, I was there in 2002 and loved the vacation, I wanted to turn around and go back after loathing the thought of returning to the states, my bro and I purchased mountain bikes and road around the city for 2 weeks, I met allot of people there, each with colorful stories. I think it’s amazing the hydro technology being used for hundreds of years, much more impressive than Venice Italy. I’ve heard Amsterdam called “the Venice of the north”, but I think Venice should be called the Amsterdam of the south!

[MaillesmithParticipant 64]

Dating as equals

First time I saw this, it was posted here. Seems like an applicable place to repost it

[Swen AugustParticipant 373]

Heinlein said it best, and this applicable to many situations. T.A.N.S.T.A.A.F.L.
there aint no such thing as a free lunch

[Prefer Peace to PieceParticipant 10809]

In the email…

Date:
Time:
Location:
Transportstion or pickup time:
Financing: This date we go Dutch dear. Are you OK,with that?

Confirmation needed

Great ideas. Thanks gentlemen.

I usually tell ladies that everything is 50/50. While My 50/50 offer is often rejected, I figure I weed out the gold diggers with this approach.
KeyMaster- brilliant suggestion- to be honest, I never thought of this before. Will adopt.

You guys are quite correct- NEVER let a woman decide where to dine. It IS madness.
I did this one time years ago, and she selected Ruth Criss’ Steakhouse (very expensive). She proceeded to order the most expensive steak on the menu and didn’t even touch it, instead taking it home for her dog to eat.
(complete mangina back then)
I laugh about it now. But you do have to be wary of the entitled gold digging American flowers out there.

[bcrogerParticipant 113]

I am all for quick sex with a bitch (such as a hand job or blowjob) and then breaking up with her after that. It s hard for men to never have sex, and difficult (but not impossible ) to live a fulfilling life without it. There is nothing wrong with dates, as long as no long term relationship is made.

I would tell her to pay for half of the bill before the date.

[BigDParticipant 3024]

I treat it like I treat my friends. If I invite, I pay. If they invite, they pay. If it is a mutual meet up, we pay our share. If I am asked to meet by a girl I state something like, “I only budgeted my finances this month to feed myself.” Nine times out of ten she says, “It’s fine, I can bring some cash.”

Don't stick your dick into anyone you aren't willing to put up with for eighteen years and nine months.

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