How can anyone marry and have kids in this f~~~ed up world?

[Truthseeker82Participant 6406]

Two of my male colleagues, both younger men, are about to take the plunge into that river of s~~~ called marriage (aka mirage). Oblivious to what they are about to be subject to – the lies, the nagging, the stress, loss of independence, and over 50% certainty they’ll go down with this sinking ship in the end.
I’d never tell them the truth – they need to learn the hard way because the lesson will stick.
I’m a father – but that happened years ago in a different world. It baffles me how any sane man would knowingly and willingly bring children into this f~~~ed up society. For one, the planet is way too over crowded. Then add to that the constant terror threats, financial meltdowns, degradation of morality. When I look at another snowflake pop out another kid – I can understand for her why – child support, alimony, extended rights to his time, wallet and sanity, but for the guy – just doesn’t make sense.

[Anonymous 42]

Truthseeker82 wrote:

for the guy – just doesn’t make sense.

That’s why women honestly believe we’re stupid, until MGTOW!

We’re ROCKING THEIR WORLD in ways NEVER ROCKED BEFORE!

[joetechParticipant]

These two guys should go sit in on a couple of family court sessions before taking the plunge. It’s a little like when they first started loading lifeboats on the Titanic. Most people just couldn’t be bothered getting into one of those things when it was so cold outside and so warm in the lounge.

"Don't follow in my footsteps...I stepped in something."

[Truthseeker82Participant 6406]

joetech wrote:

These two guys should go sit in on a couple of family court sessions before taking the plunge. It’s a little like when they first started loading lifeboats on the Titanic. Most people just couldn’t be bothered getting into one of those things when it was so cold outside and so warm in the lounge.

Well said. If the state had any decency – and to follow common disclosure laws – they’d require that EVERY couple about to wed watch a video of modern family court. I see then a future of MGTOW for all men and women marrying themselves or their cats.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Truthseeker82 wrote:

It baffles me how any sane man would knowingly and willingly bring children into this f~~~ed up society. For one, the planet is way too over crowded. Then add to that the constant terror threats, financial meltdowns, degradation of morality.

Forget all that. Does he even have any say or real ability to RAISE the children properly? Because if cupcake gets a little “ootsy” one morning, she takes “her” kids , and he’ll really wonder WTF the f~~~ hit him when she moves the new Chad into HIS house.

The inability to actually BE “a father” is reason enough to use 3 condoms. Todays man is reduced to sperm donor and that’s about it. Here’s a preview from a recent introduction….

QUOTE: “When she left me after 9 years, she told me she did not love me, never had, and that she had stayed with me past the first year only to have children. At my son’s second birthday party in front of my mother and I, she laughed with her family about moving out of the house and taking the kids.”

I don’t know about you fine gents, but I’ll be having none of that. I wouldn’t even allow myself to be placed in the position where she could do something like that. It’s an intro like that which really hammers you over the head.

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Sure, anyone can argue “BUT THAT’S JUST ONE MAN’S STORY!!!”
But is it really JUST one man’s story?

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Anonymous 42]

Keymaster wrote:

But is it really JUST one man’s story?

No it’s not, the stories are endless and some much more bizarre!

Life is a story you live, why make it a nightmare by tossing in a woman?

[Rolling Tin FistParticipant 484]

Yeah, I had a Red Pill buddy who decided to cohabitate despite my warnings and me sharing tons of Red Pills. His date, became his girlfriend, became his roommate. Now she’s lost her job. Next will be holes in the condom I’m sure.

He doesn’t see it. He’s promise itself. He’s hoping she’ll just be around until he gets tired. I tell him he’s already encumbered, only he won’t realize it until he tries to get out. He’s already taking her on trip, and is considering inviting her on our next Red Pill Getaway to which I’m saying no ma’am.

I just pray for him because I know how it feels, like a lot of you men here, that first time a woman really fcuks you over and you don’t have a clue.

"Love is the delusion that one woman differs from another" - H. L. Mencken

[FunInTheSunParticipant 8283]

I know what you mean. I think some people don’t realize better options until their first choices are made.

What’s f~~~ed up about life is: once you’ve made up your mind to do something, you can’t go back and change it.

"I saw that there comes a point, in the defeat of any man of virtue, when his own consent is needed for evil to win-and that no manner of injury done to him by others can succeed if he chooses to withhold his consent. I saw that I could put an end to your outrages by pronouncing a single word in my mind. I pronounced it. The word was ‘No.’" (Atlas Shrugged)

[It’sallbsParticipant]

Yep life sucks the sweat from a dead man’s b~~~~.

http://www.leavemeansleave.eu

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

Rolling Tin Fist wrote:

Yeah, I had a Red Pill buddy who decided to cohabitate despite my warnings and me sharing tons of Red Pills. His date, became his girlfriend, became his roommate. Now she’s lost her job. Next will be holes in the condom I’m sure.

He doesn’t see it. He’s promise itself. He’s hoping she’ll just be around until he gets tired. I tell him he’s already encumbered, only he won’t realize it until he tries to get out. He’s already taking her on trip, and is considering inviting her on our next Red Pill Getaway to which I’m saying no ma’am.

I just pray for him because I know how it feels, like a lot of you men here, that first time a woman really fcuks you over and you don’t have a clue.

I have a girlfriend, but she lives about 30 miles away: close enough to maintain a relationship with much expense but not so close that she is always in my s~~~. She has her own house, like I have my own house, and I have no desire to cohabitate. That is my level of Red/Blue pill. Additionally, I got a vasectomy in February, so that means no more kids. My red line is cohabitation or mingling finances. That red line being crossed ends the relationship.

It is sad, but your friend is an idiot letting her cohabitate. How much of an idiot depends on the laws in the state, but he is exposed to potential financial problems if they break up and the state thinks she’s entitled to his s~~~.

My oldest son (19) is even more Red pill than me and doesn’t even want to date. I envision him or both him and my almost 14-yr old son living in my house, unencumbered by females and their bulls~~~. If I have any grandchildren, it will either be the daughter who lives with my ex, or by surrogate.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[AwakenedParticipant 35202]

Truthseeker82 wrote:

It baffles me how any sane man would knowingly and willingly bring children into this f~~~ed up society

It’s called Blue Pill programing of Societal Lies.

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[MagusParticipant 424]

Why would anybody want to have kids? Kids are the s~~~ that women want. Not men. If you want kids you have taken the blue pill. Man up. Control your own destiny. Don’t turn over your life to women and kids and wake up an old man.

[AutoliteParticipant]

How can anyone marry and have kids in this f~~~ed up world?

I’ve been asking myself this same question for a few years now and I still haven’t found a satisfactory answer.

However, I have figured out a couple of things. One thing is that there are so many people who just refuse to acknowledge the truth or reality. Now matter how evident or obvious something may be, they’ll reject what is true over what they would like to believe to be true. It’s when the emotional need to want something to be true overrides the logical determination that counters what they prefer to believe. Emotion often trumps logic. It just seems to be one of the flaws of human nature.

The other thing is a man’s ego. Men will see failed marriages and crippling divorces everywhere yet they just think that it won’t happen to them. They think that they’re smarter and better than the ‘other’ guy. They will think that they’ve got a handle on the situation where the ‘other’ guys don’t.

That’s been as close as I could get to answering that question…

[MGTOW KnightParticipant 7477]

Autolite wrote:

The other thing is a man’s ego. Men will see failed marriages and crippling divorces everywhere yet they just think that it won’t happen to them. They think that they’re smarter and better than the ‘other’ guy. They will think that they’ve got a handle on the situation where the ‘other’ guys don’t.

The whole “It will never happen to me” mentality f~~~s everyone over. It isn’t a matter of if, just a matter of when…

Fuck bitches... literally and metaphorically

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

Truthseeker82 wrote:

I’m a father – but that happened years ago in a different world. It baffles me how any sane man would knowingly and willingly bring children into this f~~~ed up society.

False thinking is the problem.
Men are programmed to think the burden of a relationship’s success or failure is all on him. ‘If I’m a good husband she won’t leave me’. Therefore, the man falsely believes his behaviors will determine the marriage outcome, without considering her behaviors in the equation. How many times have you heard she left because he was (fill in the blank)? You never hear she left because she was a self-centered narcissist etc..
To my point – men are programmed believe that if they provide and don’t cheat it will work and they intend to do just that, so that’s why they continue to marry. The woman is never considered to be the perpetrator until after the redpill.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[PuniShredderParticipant 2268]

Autolite wrote:

How can anyone marry and have kids in this f~~~ed up world?

I’ve been asking myself this same question for a few years now and I still haven’t found a satisfactory answer.

However, I have figured out a couple of things. One thing is that there are so many people who just refuse to acknowledge the truth or reality. Now matter how evident or obvious something may be, they’ll reject what is true over what they would like to believe to be true. It’s when the emotional need to want something to be true overrides the logical determination that counters what they prefer to believe. Emotion often trumps logic. It just seems to be one of the flaws of human nature.

The other thing is a man’s ego. Men will see failed marriages and crippling divorces everywhere yet they just think that it won’t happen to them. They think that they’re smarter and better than the ‘other’ guy. They will think that they’ve got a handle on the situation where the ‘other’ guys don’t.

That’s been as close as I could get to answering that question…

It’s just f~~~ing willful denial.

Be professional be polite but always have a plan to kill everyone you meet.

[narwhalParticipant]

FrostByte wrote:

To my point – men are programmed believe that if they provide and don’t cheat it will work and they intend to do just that, so that’s why they continue to marry. The woman is never considered to be the perpetrator until after the redpill.

That’s exactly why I went through with it. I thought I was better than that, and I couldn’t imagine my wife not valuing our marriage so much less than I did. I wanted kids because I wanted to be a father. It’s really as simple as that. It’s not much different then why people do anything that they enjoy.

It also true to say that I didn’t really consider the possibility of not getting married, living my life entirely single. I was the youngest of 3 children, and I partly saw getting married as proving that I was an adult. I did feel somewhat like a failure for not being married. When I dreamed of what my life would be, it was always as a married man and as a father. I obviously can’t say for sure, but I think almost every guy I knew thought the same way I did. Not getting married? Unthinkable.

It’s been years ago, but my ex told me after we divorced and she starting dating someone again that “I want the kids to know that relationships can last” (yes, I thought it was too late for that). Now, I want my kids to know that you most certainly don’t have to be in a relationship to be happy.

Ok. Then do it.

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

narwhal wrote:

It’s been years ago, but my ex told me after we divorced and she starting dating someone again that “I want the kids to know that relationships can last” (yes, I thought it was too late for that).

They are as delusional as we are programmed. Like mixing bleach with ammonia.

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

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