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    The Deal
    The Deal
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    Hi. I have been lurking here for a while and have finally decided to add my story to the thousands of others.

    I was raised by my parents and my culture to be a responsible, chivalrous family man and to be faithful to my promises. I loved my wife dearly and sacrificed my dreams to be with her and to provide for her and our children. She is the first woman I ever slept with. I am not a perfect man, nor was I a perfect husband, but I did my best.

    During our marriage, she could not hold down a job, spent more money than we had, whined endlessly about how unhappy she was and how hard her life was, occasionally went into histrionic rages, lied in bed for half the day contemplating how to spend more money, and, after the children came, verbally abused me daily for not helping out enough and for not making enough money.

    When she left me after 9 years, she told me she did not love me, never had, and that she had stayed with me past the first year only to have children. At my son’s second birthday party in front of my mother and I, she laughed with her family about moving out of the house and taking the kids. To settle the divorce, I had to completely re-mortgage our paid-off house to pay her out and to pay off the credit card debt she had run up. I went from having way more wealth than most Americans my age, to having about $10000. Within ten months, she spent all of her divorce settlement, which had been the remainder of our life savings. I learned that during our marriage, she had tried to seduce my best friend. I went from seeing my kids every evening, getting up with them in the morning, and taking them to school, to a standard every-other-weekend and dinner-on-Wednesdays arrangement.

    After the marriage, she tried to get me back. All the way back to marriage. Four times. Once while she was engaged to another man. She tried to move the kids far away from me three different times. I managed to stop her with only a few thousand dollars paid to my lawyer, but still, the threat of hardly ever seeing my kids was the scariest thing I have ever faced. And of course, she could not hold down a job and contributed nothing financially to the raising of our children.

    The love of my life tried to cheat on me with my best friend, admitted to using me for my DNA, had so little integrity that she proposed marriage to me while engaged to another man, was abusive, had no problem taking children hundreds of miles away from their father, and burned a hole in my wallet while putting nothing back in.

    I have been divorced for over 10 years, and I have an OK life now. I see my kids way more than I used to, and I take them to school again. I come home and do what I want. I am in the best physical shape of my post-college life. I have saved up more wealth than I had at the time of the divorce, and I spend my money on whatever I want to (less the state-ordered amount of course). Had I never married, I would have a few hundred thousand dollars more than I do now (and that counts even if I had been a single dad through adoption or surrogacy). The best thing my wife ever did for me was leave.

    The women I dated after my wife did not convince me they were any better. I stopped dating women over two years ago. I cannot imagine a woman or situation that would lead me to sacrificing anything or marrying again. For men, marriage is a horrible risk and a bad deal, both during and after. I know some couples who I believe are actually happy with each other, but in general, for a man, marriage is like playing Russian roulette with only one empty chamber. I seriously doubt I will be in a relationship with a woman ever again. It is not worth the expense, the annoyance, nor the risks.

    #457446
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    Good story. There’s lots of red pills to take on these forums. Here’s your first:

    When she left me after 9 years, she told me she did not love me, never had

    What women mean by “love” is “how I feel about you in this moment.” It’s completely alien to what a man means by love. A woman’s love, even if you can succeed in getting it, is very fleeting. High risk, low reward.

    Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.

    #457447
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    K
    Hitman
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    welcome brother ,
    your in the right place !

    #457462
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    Anonymous
    42

    C~~~ punt!

    Just kidding!

    You’re definitely solidified hardcore MGHOW! Welcome to the band of bastard marriage thieves!

    We but the BAN in wedding bands!

    #457469
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    Muglintar
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    I know some couples who I believe are actually happy with each other,

    Welcome,
    Bro’ is it possible you forgot to put a “still” somewhere in that sentence? Otherwise this comes awfully close to a NAWALT statement.

    "Him, who delights in solitude, is either a wild beast or a GOD!" - Aristotle (Aristot. Pol. 1.1253a) 1 Hom. Il. 9.63; the passage goes on: ἐστὶν ἐκεῖνος ι ὃς πολέμου ἔραται.

    #457497
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    The Deal
    The Deal
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    Thanks, guys.

    What women mean by “love” is “how I feel about you in this moment.” It’s completely alien to what a man means by love.

    Ain’t that the truth. A way I often look at it is women love us for what they think we can do for them, which of course is not what we think of as love.

    You’re definitely solidified hardcore MGHOW!

    Thanks. After the divorce, my attitude was f~~~ that, never doing that again. I felt a little bad that I genuinely felt in my heart that marriage was a crock. After thinking about it and reading a lot, I came to realize in my head that it’s a crock. It’s been nice to read other guys’ similar opinions and experiences on the matter.

    Otherwise this comes awfully close to a NAWALT statement.

    All women are women. The two couples that I’m specifically thinking about are old. They’re not living the dream or anything, but they outwardly appear to have done the best at marriage that it must be possible to do. I will not be getting myself into that.

    #457499
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    The Deal
    The Deal
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    Oops wrong quote buttons. Well now I know.

    #457509
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    Anonymous
    43

    welcome amigo.

    #457515
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    Bstoff
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    That sounded a lot like my first marriage/divorce. Just be glad you’re not with her anymore. I honestly believe I would have killed myself if I was still with my first.
    Welcome. Never forget how precious your freedom is.

    #457565
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    Keymaster
    Keymaster
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    It’s remarkable how well-spoken and articulate these intros are – consistently. Thank you for telling it.

    When she left me after 9 years, she told me she did not love me, never had, and that she had stayed with me past the first year only to have children.

    Classy! And classic.

    “I never loved you. ( *flips hair* ) you were just the sperm donor and human wallet.”

    Nice.

    It’s not enough to just leave. They feel some need to really drive the dagger in between the shoulder blades and twist it around – with a creamy smile on her face. At the child’s 2nd birthday party too. ( SMH ) That would have been my cue to get up from the table and exit.

    Although, I happened to think the deliberate intent to be hurtful is as meaningless as the marriage vows. She’s just saying it to get you. I have also heard grossly unfair accusations on the day of the break up too. Things she NEVER said or hinted at previously. They’re just words. This makes it easier to buffer.

    If she never really “loved” and admired the man,
    then she can never really mean the ugly stuff either.

    Thats’ just how I see it. And now that blade she is attempting to stab me with is made out of flexible prop rubber, and she can’t puncture an organ with it.

    If “I love you” was insincere…. so is “I hate you”.
    Now she’s got nothing. Everything she says is bogus and valueless.

    This is how the predatory female disarms herself.

    After the marriage, she tried to get me back. All the way back to marriage. Four times.

    Wow.

    Welcome to MGTOW and the forums.

    If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
    #457597
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    Anonymous
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    Welcome.

    I’m glad you got out alive, see your kids, and are doing well now.

    Marriage is nothing but a F~~~ING ABOMINATION.

    The biggest piece of s~~~ of a lie ever told.

    She was just another C~~~. That’s all you need to know.

    #457621
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    Nerevar
    Nerevar
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    Welcome, brother!

    "One of the best things internet exposed is just how insane women are." - Freeman_K

    #457632
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    Anonymous
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    Women are not capable of loving a man(the way we think about love), at that point when she told you that “she never loved you”, she just wanted to hurt you the more she could. They are capable of loving their children, but not always. Women are attracted to males, once a man understand that, it is game over for the women that want to exploit a man high on love-believing, also known as bluepill mindset.

    It is hard to understand women, harder to get the signals, to know the red flags, etc. it is a pain in the ass to find a good partner(and I totally understand why you left the dating scene, you are not alone here). And most importantly they change, and you know they will, expecially after your childs are born, you got down on the tree of who matters more, that is a fact.

    Marriage is like telling a woman “here, handcuff me, now I am your slave”, if only men knew better what marriage is today…

    Welcome brother, enjoy your stay and thanks for sharing!

    #457635
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    SilverOne
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    Welcome to da house, bro. I wish I had been that smart after the first time.

    I don’t believe in female magic anymore. And will never again gut myself to make room for it. --Narwhal--

    #457755
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    Y_
    Y_
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    Welcome and an articulate post.

    You are no more than a resource.provider.
    The Cash Cow.
    Nothing else is the truth but this.

    Once you see this you are free.

    #457773
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    Anonymous
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    Welcome home, Deal
    Beer’s in the fridge

    Great intro.
    Classic; there are so many guys here that have experienced the same s~~~ as you have. You are home, now.

    #457895
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    BlacqueJacqueShellacque
    BlacqueJacqueShellacque
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    @ The Deal, welcome home brother! You’ve been through a lot and come out very well. Enjoy your well deserved life. Great introduction.

    #457914
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    Anonymous
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    marriage is like playing Russian roulette with only one empty chamber.

    I like that analogy.

    #458727
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    MarketWatcher
    MarketWatcher
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    Welcome brother. Thanks for the great read.

    #458964
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    Nero
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    Welcome! Couple of real awesome intro’s past few days. Marriage is f~~~ing useless for a man!

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