How can a man make marriage work and be MGTOW?

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

There was the argument under “Well, I can go my own way, and have a wife, and it would work. Who are you to tell me I can’t go my own way and have a wife if I want to?” I think that was the AVFM argument. The thing I see is that you really can’t and it would end up requiring a NAWALT Unicorn, who is so different than other women, that it would be odds.

Well, this is my take on how to live MGTOW (words of being MGTOW to strive for):
* In as much as it is possible, it is my way of life and my choices over everyone else’s. Sometimes I can’t do it, but I don’t bargain what matters in my life.
* I don’t care what others think. I am immune to emotional manipulation, cries of general pleading and making the problems of others mine, because they guilt me into it.
* I don’t care to buy status symbols to impress the world, and others.
* I focus on what I need and what I want only, and live a lean life that way.
* I don’t feel a need to go out and socialize and talk with the world, for the sake of talking, or winning the approval of strangers.
* I don’t need to be trendy, and keep up on the latest, to try to fit in.
* If I am home alone, I can sit around in underwear with holes, because no one will notice.
* I am NOT a walking wallet to be used for resources, to just placate anyone.
* I generally can keep my problems to myself, and work on them alone, and don’t need to rehash them over and over and over, just to talk about them.

Well, my understanding of women is such that none of this is going to fly at all. It just doesn’t work. So, from a practical level, I am curious how anyone can say being MGTOW would be compatible with marriage. Please feel free to tweak. It is just practical wisdom of living life on your own terms really has a hard time including a wife. A man fully going his own way isn’t going to be able to fit a wife into his life. So, I see it as practical wisdom.

Please share your thoughts below and any others I missed in regards to what it takes to be MGTOW being a different way than that of a married man.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[sidecarParticipant 35874]

IGMOW (I Go My Own Way) wrote:

How can a man make marriage work and be MGTOW?

He can’t. Because marriage doesn’t “work”.

And any man who thinks he can make marriage “work” doesn’t understand what marriage actually is. He’s operating under a false cartoon impression of marriage spoon fed to him by religion, society, women, the media, and so on, and it’s going to bite him in the ass.

[Swen AugustParticipant 373]

I tried it twice and it almost cost me my life. I have a son I have never seen, I have 4 grandsons that I will probably never see. My 2nd wife went on a business trip and later confessed that she had an abortion, she killed our child without even discussing it with me. The last thing I heard before she shattered my skull-“I did NOT give you permission to leave”

[Anonymous 42]

“How can a man make marriage work and be MGTOW?” You must mean ” How can a man make MGTOW work and be married: get a divorce! The only thing that works in a marriage is a man!

[The Long WalkParticipant 1282]

Mgtow is men rebelling against the institutionalised rape that is marriage. I don’t see how a man can exist in those two sates at the same time.

[LupusParticipant 214]

If you are married, you are not going your own way. You can not, because you have to compromise (at the very least). And compromise negates going your own way.

[whatpricehParticipant 12]

i guess a trick question , you can’t

50% divorce rate

out of remaining 50% , where 2 people are in fake fantasy still together – how many are trying to bail out

so marriage works for what ? 45% 35% 25% of people??

who the hell is kidding whom…

also why the hell would i marry the state,

i told one hole, ill never leave you but I’ll never marry you

that thought fused her little brain to the skull

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

Lupus wrote:

If you are married, you are not going your own way. You can not, because you have to compromise (at the very least). And compromise negates going your own way.

That was my thought on this. I just don’t see how a man can fully go his own way and be married. My idea with this thread was to list ways a man would be MGTOW, and live well as MGTOW, and then see how they could be compatible with marriage. I don’t see it is really possible. Even if a guy were to get a NAWALT, and even if things weren’t as harsh as they are now with the legal system, etc… I just don’t see how. Women want to go out and be social, mingle with friends, be trendy and do a dozen other things that rob a man of financial freedom, but she needs to be happy.

I don’t necessarily hold that marriage can’t, theoretically work, and some manage to make it work today. What I do hold is that, even if everything goes right, the way of being MGTOW is an entirely different animal that requires different skills to be married, and do it well.

I was originally going to ask why a woman would want to date a MGTOW, but I figured I would look bigger picture with things.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[Prefer Peace to PieceParticipant 10809]

Marriage is an emotionally charged topic. Obviously, most of us at Mgtow
wouldn’t touch marriage (again) under any circumstances. But you posed an interesting question: can a man make marriage work and be Mgtow?

First, consider “Why do people get married?” One can speculate many reasons why people decide to get married: to enhance a love relationship, to achieve social acceptance and respectability, to have children, to avoid loneliness, to be financially supported, etc.

THERE ARE BETTER WAYS TO ACHIEVE THE OBJECTIVES OF MARRIAGE WITHOUT MARRIAGE.

I am a fan of Harry Browne and I like what he said about relationships.

1.Don’t try to perpetuate a relationship by contract
2.Limit the relationship to what you have in common
3.Don’t think in terms of groups

Don’t try to perpetuate a relationship by contract. Marriage is a contract. In other words, don’t try to perpetuate relationship by marriage. A contract clearly makes it more difficult to get out of a relationship. You can’t guarantee the durability of an emotion. You can’t promise to love forever, and neither can your lover.

Don’t think in terms of groups. You aren’t a couple. You are two individuals who have overlapping interests, attitudes and feelings.

Limit the relationship to what you have in common. Compromising in areas that you don’t have in common actually leads to a loss of freedom.

There’s no reason why two people can’t love each other and still remain two individuals. You can have sex and enjoy common interests without a license or a contract.

So can a person be Mgtow and married at the same time? Well, I personally would say no. Married men generally don’t go their own way, but are usually manipulated to go the way their spouse decides. Marriage is not a great deal for any man. But more importantly, there are better ways to achieve the objectives of marriage without marriage. Thanks.

[Anonymous 29]

IGMOW (I Go My Own Way) wrote:

How can a man make marriage work and be MGTOW ?

You can’t.

[uchibenkeiParticipant 7965]

if you’re stuck in a marriage when you realize you are mgtow, the marriage must not be working or you wouldn’t have gone mgtow. I assume you’re question is really “how do i go mgtow and avoid divorce” rather than make the marriage work. You can’t really fake a marriage because eventually it catches up to you and your unhappiness will start to show. She will start to be unhappy, if she’s not already, and she will start planning the divorce. So, my advice would be to start planning your divorce first and get things in your favor. If she’s not working, get her working. that will help with support payments. start hiding money or any other assets. start talking to a lawyer asap.

I bathe in the tears of single moms.

[MochaParticipant 90]

Build a time machine and go back to the year 1946.

[FullMetalExoParticipant 2383]

Mocha wrote:

Build a time machine and go back to the year 1946.

Dude, I see you traveling trough space-time continuum today, may I come along !?
Dude, where is the DeLorean .

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[Anonymous 3]

A NAWALT would actually refuse your marriage(imprisonment) offer.

[LazParticipant 44]

Actually if you read the very definition of MGTOW, there is nothing about marriage whatsoever.
It only states that a MGHOW put his sovereignty above all else.
The part where MGTOW reject marriage come only when you apply this theory to reality, you’d found out that walking away from marriage is the best course of action.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

Laz wrote:

Actually if you read the very definition of MGTOW, there is nothing about marriage whatsoever.It only states that a MGHOW put his sovereignty above all else.The part where MGTOW reject marriage come only when you apply this theory to reality, you’d found out that walking away from marriage is the best course of action.

I am going to do another post and ask about the compatibility of the MGTOW lifestyle with marriage. I don’t see it works. I think I need to clarify better.

And this is it:
/forums/topic/a-successful-mgtow-lifestyle-is-not-compatible-with-marriage/

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[MIKETOWParticipant 757]

He can’t. Period. Getting married defeats the whole purpose of MGTOW.

[Anonymous 9]

I don’t see it working at all.

You’re always at the beck and call of your wife. Then you throw kids in the mix.

Nope.

[Mango IngawayParticipant 2264]

“HOW CAN A MAN MAKE MARRIAGE WORK AND BE MGTOW?”

He can’t. Makes as much sense as a jew joining the SS.

It is a common failing of childhood to think that if one makes a hero out of a demon the demon will be satisfied.

[Anonymous 5]

He can’t. The whole point of MGTOW is going your own way without marriage or being a slave to the pussy.

You can’t pretend to be your own man while still married. She still controls your life. She is still draining your resources. She is still banning you from doing things you want to do. You have no freedom because you are always sacrificing your needs for hers.

It just doesn’t work. Anyone who thinks it can are just blue pill manginas.

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