A successful MGTOW lifestyle is not compatible with marriage

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

My last thread I did, like this one, apparently missed the mark, so I am redoing it and stating my thoughts. My interest was looking at how a man going MGTOW lives and has a good life. As I see it, it isn’t compatible, so what I would ask, and was trying to see with the other post, is that even if everything else where working with marriage, to be MGTOW means a life that wouldn’t work.

My take on MGTOW, to be successful is:
* Focus on a purpose or mission in life, that is attempting something significant, that will take away from socializing and focusing on others. You see a number of famous MGTOW men, like Isaac Newton, and mathematicians, and they were focused on their craft. A woman married to a man will resent the lack of attention.
* Not settling or compromising on core principles. Marriage is full of compromise.
* Being resistant to emotional appeals and pressure like this. This will filter out a woman trying to manipulate.
* A willingness to scale things down to an absolute minimum in a lot of areas, and excess focus in an area. You aren’t as balanced in life. I know women will have issue with that. A focused MGTOW life will often have few creature comforts in it, and really focused on a key area.

I am sure their are others. So, as I see it, even if the legal system were ok, and the environment were better, if you really want to go your own way, a woman isn’t going to fit.

Anyhow, just my take. Let me know if this makes more sense than my last post. This is closer to what I was going for, and I hope it was clear.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[heads-upParticipant 320]

In present day times I dont think anyone is fully compatible with with marriage Richard.Especially women.
ESpecially women but the difference is when that elephant in the room goes berserker its men who will be fighting for survival and women who will simply skiprope away.
I like men you who are married then go mgtow because they bring stories from the “front” raw and unedited for the rest to learn from.

[UntamedParticipant]

MGTOW and marriage is a non-sense, a contradiction in terms in our day and age. Marriage is being used against men, men take RedPills, men go MGTOW, that’s a logical unfolding of events. It’s happening now and en masse.

Don't let them Blame, Shame or Tame you!
Give 'em NOTHING, not even an answer!
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[2ravensParticipant 83]

A willingness to scale things down to an absolute minimum in a lot of areas, and excess focus in an area. You aren’t as balanced in life.

This. I’ve noticed that happening more and more in my life. Things that aren’t important just slip away and things I enjoy take up more and more of my time. When I was married I spent lots of time trying to find the “work/life balance” but I never could. It’s because when you do that you end up spending very little time pursuing things you like. REALLY like, not just like because society says you should.

Another thing I’ve noticed is that (if) you still date then you can easily see what single women value in their lives. They go thru the same process as we do. It’s inevitable. So what have I noticed? Almost none care about keeping up their houses except for furnishing the inside with useless aesthetic pieces. Few have any hobbies outside of having “fun” (when someone else pays mostly) or dating. Carrying on a conversation with these women is painful at best.

It’s fairly simple to tell what I value. I have a clean, simple house, jiu-jitsu 2-3x week, gardening and riding back roads in my jeep. A few trips surfing every year. Is that boring? Possibly to someone else. Never have I had a guy friend, married or not, say wow that sucks — but women have. When do I go out and have “fun”?……They can’t imagine not partying or being taken places. This is the compromise marriage is about. The things most women like can easily be done inside a marriage but doing the things you like eventually gets you divorced and labeled with the worst label of all – boring.

So, I agree. Marriage is completely incompatible for all but a small subset of men who would truly thrive under those conditions. As much as I hate the term, this would be the true Alphas which are probably as rare as the mythical NAWALT.

[Wolf redpillmanSpectator 1658]

Mgtow.is the.only way ,i can do anything.i want when.i want no nagging just living.life how.i want it

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

Wolf redpillman wrote:

Mgtow.is the.only way ,i can do anything.i want when.i want no nagging just living.life how.i want it

And no way to combine that with marriage that I know of.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[OneforfreedomParticipant 930]

2ravens wrote:

So what have I noticed? Almost none care about keeping up their houses except for furnishing the inside with useless aesthetic pieces. Few have any hobbies outside of having “fun” (when someone else pays mostly) or dating. Carrying on a conversation with these women is painful at best.

Valuable insight. Thanks for sharing.

[IGMOW (I Go My Own Way)Participant 2572]

I would take the woman who is looking for “fun” has no idea what she wants to do, and is waiting for the outside world to take charge and control and excite her or give her some sort of other positive emotion she can’t think of. The idea, as I see it, is she is supposed to be the center of the relationship universe, and taken care of, so she then can produce kids and be the guardian of the brood. In exchange, a guy gets sex and also moral support (if luck) and emotion stuff. You get to see a woman be happy.

I would say, beyond even the MGTOW lifestyle being not compatible with marriage, I don’t much at all, that a MGTOW who has his stuff together, and is emotionally healthy, can get out of the marriage relationship. Wow, you get a cheerleader who adores you and throws you cheers as you go into the world? Really? I personally don’t get it.

"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.

[Swen AugustParticipant 373]

Before marriage I took her sons fishing and camping and I was a good man and after mirage she told me if I go fishing once more she would leave me, I don’t even miss her. One day she sat me down and informed me that I was not going to drink beer any more. I said that’s fine and you are not allowed to drink coffee and smoke cigs any more– bat s~~~ crazy in 3-2-1………

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