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There have been more articles written on MGTOW in the last year than every before.
They do all the work and recruiting for us. 🙂
The feminists are in damage control mode.
It’s tangible.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Worthy of a quick read to learn how lazy “pot shots” are taken.
This concept is popular among men who are perceived as unwanted and unattractive to women because it provides a defence mechanism by suggesting that they are the ones doing the rejecting.
“Perceived as unwanted and unattractive…”
I love this phrase, it is a great way to try to talk around the real issue.
“Men treated badly.” is the phrase they should have used.
With women taking the initiative of men for granted, or even worse, treating it with crude abuse (#wastinghistime hashtags are only the newest form), some men are reacting in a reasonable way- they are rejecting the role of chasing after women. Some men are even learning they don’t have to chase women at all.
This is rational response because doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is the definition of insanity.
Less of a “defence mechanism” than a realistic defense of your own dignity, self-respect, finances and for those men in college, their safety from being stripped of due process.
Anyone who is critical of you taking reasonable and unaggressive defensive measures is possibly someone wanting to see you vulnerable.
In reality, western world women do not want the vast majority of the men who follow MGTOW forums and groups because they are perceived as unattractive or lack financial resources.
The writer also seems to be obsessed with “perception”. While it has a place, perception takes a back seat to substance.
Are they actually “unattractive” ? Are they actually “lack(ing) financial resources” ? The writer never says, but those of us who know very financially successful men know that some of them dress down and present a very “blue collar” front when they are out and don’t want to deal with gold diggers. PUAs putting up a “perception” of having greater wealth than they might have, or just being treated better by women only because you happen to be wearing a suit are things that we have talked about in other posts here.
So much talk about perception, yet little said as to the addressing of substance. The writer is also ignoring the elephant in the room, women looking for cash instead of character.
Friendless, socially rejected men find camaraderie through concepts like MGTOW.
I was MGTOW decades before the word was even invented. I have a number of good people I call friends. But unlike some people who want to have a great quantity of “friends” (see the ad at the end of the article), I prefer to have a smaller number of friends of great quality.
And of course, there is a difference between quantity and quality. Men with standards and character don’t just befriend anyone.
The article goes on to shame and label people without using reasonable justifications, honest insights or experience. We are supposed to take their word for it. So confident in their training or experience, they never even put their name on the post.
At least feminists mostly have the courage to put a name to their nonsense, this one is far to cowardly.
Is this the best our critics can do ?
While manginas worry about “perception”, men focus on substance. And if they don’t like it or it keeps me out of their tired rehash of a High School popularity contest (again, see the ad at the end), well-
I don’t give a damn.
Frank V.
When I go out I see more and more men either solo or with other men enjoying themselves.
I can attest to this as well. One time while I was walking near a casino, a group of single men were walking passed me carrying a pretty decent sex doll. Not Real Doll quality, but a pretty good quality sex doll.
It’s pretty awesome noticing this s~~~ more and more when you’re a MGTOW. Back in my blue pill years, I was completely oblivious to it.
Even men who don’t even know about the term MGTOW are going MGTOW without even realizing it because women are really annoying to be around unless you’re f~~~ing them.
Men age like fine wine. Women age like milk. "One hundred women are not worth a single testicle." -Confucius
“What is MGTOW and why do men who have been rejected by women gravitate towards it”
The title gives it away as an infomercial, it is directed to blue pill men either freshly through the grinder or “thirsty” blue pill men, trying to understand society.
Men who have been rejected by women, by definition are deluded, they believe they are missing out on something innately valuable a woman has and pedestalize them.
It’s like being rejected by an exotic car, because I’m not willing to stump up the over-inflated price.
It’s MGTOW doing the rejecting, we don’t value the exotic car at hundreds of thousands of dollars, and we certainly don’t value a short term experience with a woman’s vagina at 1/2 our assets and ongoing maintenance.
The article even discusses the financial consequences of divorce / separation, and then tries to sell their social skills guide aka PUA material.
There are a lot of very “thirsty” confused men still willing to get squeezed for that juice.
When the war cemeteries are half full of the corpses of dead conscripted women, only then will women have earned the right to speak of equality. Sidecar “A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do.” - Bob Dylan
Men who have been rejected by women, by definition are deluded, they believe they are missing out on something innately valuable a woman has and pedestalize them.
Well put.
It’s like being rejected by an exotic car, because I’m not willing to stump up the over-inflated price.
Exactly.
When a man contemplates the FARCE known as “rejection”, he would first have to ask himself…. what is she actually “rejecting”? His generosity? His time? His attention? His interest in seeking her again? A free drink?
Not being a willing receptor of the VALUE he is offering does nothing to elevate HER value. And that’s where it gets funny.
“no I won’t let you buy me a drink. You’re rejected.”.
“Um … ok. Thank you for saving me $10, plus the cost of an engagement ring + my house in the long run. Appreciate it.”
She’s not actually taking anything away! A woman thinks she is “rejecting” as if she took something from him….. but all she did was show an unwillingness to receive.
“I’m so crushed”. (sarcasm)
The writer also seems to be obsessed with “perception”
Most MGTOW detractors are. They are more concerned about the way women are “perceived” then the way they actually ARE. This is why they push the argument “you can’t generalize like that”. Its’ not the generalization which bothers them…. it’s only when the generalization doesn’t include female worship.
Not a single woman will strongly object and say “you can’t generalize like that” if you said “all women are perfect and beautiful” — even though it couldn’t possibly be true.
They simply can’t AFFORD for men to become self-aware on a large scale, because then they won’t be able to pull it off anymore.
When a man understands she’s not taking anything from him (like a Ferrari he’s not even looking to buy), she can no longer pretend he’s rejected by the dealer.
When he goes shopping for a new car, it’s he who doesn’t buy it. The dealer doesn’t get pretend the car is “too good for you” when you walk out of the showroom.
The dealer is the failure because he couldn’t sell it to you or convince you to buy.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Per the kundt who wrote the article:
In reality, western world women do not want the vast majority of the men who follow MGTOW forums and groups because they are perceived as unattractive or lack financial resources.
Yes, and that poverty and unattractiveness is what compelled her to write an article about them uglae po’ bois. Try again, sugar.
If you are MGTOW when you are young you have no heart.
If you're not MGTOW when you are 20 you have no brain.What is MGTOW and why do men who have been rejected by women gravitate towards it
Wrong already. While I’ve got nothing else to say about the article itself (you guys already went back and forth tearing it apart), I noticed something.
How to tell if someone is a loner with no friends
You’ve met someone but something seems a little off. He or she at first appears normal, but soon start to suspect the person has no friends or social life. How can you tell? Here are some common signs that a person is a loner with no friends:
They don’t use Facebook
They never talk about other people
They don’t tell stories about their life
They mention taking trips alone
The backseats of their car or vehicle is unused
They have few pictures of themselves
Their pictures are self taken
They use an old, out of date cell phone (or none at all)
They don’t have plans for special dates like New Years or birthdays
They are seemingly always available
They text back very quickly and seem to be waiting on your messages
Loners are everywhere. Many are educated, have money, and look relatively normal. You can’t tell just by looking at someone what their social life is like. Many loners, such as George Sodini, seem normal until you actually examine their lives.Sometimes a loner is mistaken for being mysterious, which some people find interesting or attractive. They may come off as secretive. Many times, this is because they are trying to hide that they don’t have much of a social life. The above noted signs are giveaways that are indicative of someone having no friends.
1. The logic here is retarded. “Make sure you know who the loners with no friends are so you can avoid accidentally being their friend?”
2. Why in the f~~~ do they care about why or what other people do with their lives? An answer would be that they think somehow, they are “better” than someone else, and will do anything to maintain that little circle-jerk in their head.
3. Of course, that s~~~ty website (in form as well as content) was written by someone who values themselves based on the value others give them.
To wrap up, she’s just pea-c~~~ing, and it’s too obvious. It’s just SOOOOOOOOO UNIMAGINABLE that lowly pathetic MEN would just not be interesting in the ALMIGHTY TANG! They MUST be LOSERS! Yes. Yes, that’s it! It’s definitely not HER that’s the issue. She’s just SOOOO amazing, in fact, no, WOMENMANKIND is just SOOO amazing.
Per the kundt who wrote the article:
In reality, western world women do not want the vast majority of the men who follow MGTOW forums and groups because they are perceived as unattractive or lack financial resources.
Yes, and that poverty and unattractiveness is what compelled her to write an article about them uglae po’ bois. Try again, sugar.
It’s like she tries her hardest to f~~~ herself in the ass. She just ADMITTED that western women are gold digging, shallow whores. Ugh.
If you go through the website, you can see she (it) contradicts herself several times. Funny, actually.
are you a chia pet in man drag Could be just that it’s late, but I’m finding it hard to come up with responses to this article, and to shamers in general. It’s gotten to the point where I entertain the idea that what they’re saying is true, but I just really, really don’t give a s~~~ anymore.
Fortunately, it seems you guys have been tearing into it, so I don’t have to. Cheers.
". . . elle, suivant l’usage des femmes et des chats qui ne viennent pas quand on les appelle et qui viennent quand on ne les appelle pas, s’arrêta devant moi et m’adressa la parole"—Prosper Mérimée
Anonymous5Women constantly bluff men into thinking they’re holding the better hand by stating they can get sex far easier than they can. It’s a red herring argument.
Getting sex isn’t the issue. It’s true, they can give sex away far more easily, but for women the real issue is using sex to trap men into providing resources.
Our intent is sex, their intent is entrapment. It’s a dichotomy of human gender aspirations.From 30 onward, they can’t use sex to trap a man like they once did the first time around.
They can’t be successful women and get men to fall in love with them, live with them, support them.
She also emphatically points out the tragic fact that most of them can’t even give sex away for free because over 67% of western women are overweight or obese. The figure is far higher for over 30’s. She acknowledges they’re unf~~~able.If you read between the lines you’ll know why these single women are so bitter.
I couldn’t have described the state of modern single women over 30 as well as she does.
The best that the best of them can do is give it away for free.
Don’t ever fall for the “I can get sex far easier than you can” from a woman. It’s false logic.Such a good article!
I feel ashamed and sorry now!
I will go marry the first landwhale i see ;DThere is no such thing as bad publicity.
I guarantee a significant percentage of the men who somehow read this silly article end up Going Their Own Way. Some will probably find their way here.
If feminists etc. were smart they’d ignore MGTOW and try to pretend MGTOW don’t exist. But feminists are not smart.
Anonymous54I am rejecting women.I am socially comefortable ,but need solitude.The Men on here have varying stories,personalitys ,dispositions.
Code Bunker wrote:
Be happy when you see these articles….you just know some men are going to google mgtow and we keep seeing all the intro stories and they are all the same.
We had enough s~~~.
I see it as a good sign…
You are right, it is a good sign. When they respond like this to us walking away from them and going our own way, it means that our impact is far greater than the small numbers of identified MGTOWs wil lead you to think.
A growing number of men are fed up and had enough. They are saying “no” to the entire Traditionalist trap. It is not only men over 35, but the drop in marriages for those in their 20’s is large.
If we where so undesirable, unwanted and such “losers”, then why the effort ? They would be happy to see us go !
No, they know where this leads to. And it scares the daylights out of them.
Frank V.
There’s no such thing as bad publicity. Let them keep writing more and more articles badmouthing us. All they are really doing is getting the word out to more and more potential future MGTOW. If anything they’re doing us a favor and saving us work.
The article is nothing but an advertisement wrapped up in a shaming tactic to sell a book. You can see this at face value alone.
Companies have been using these subliminal tactics for years, just think about it:
Commercial setting – Upper Middle Class family advertising a product that is catered towards lower middle class people.
This tactic gives people a false perception of a ‘normal life’ and tries to make them feel like purchasing their product will elevate your status to the perceived notion.
'Pretty women make us buy beer. Ugly women make us drink it.' -Al Bundy
Honestly you’d think they would get tired of it.
I mean I could probably spin a thousand typical anti-MGTOW articles using the cliches “gay, unattractive, poor, loners, losers, fat, bald, single not by choice but because they can’t get sexy, hot women, which all women are of course because women are perpetually in better shape, emotional and financial status than any man, immature little boys who have mommy and sister issues, and need to “Man Up” and stop being bitter because they got hurt by a woman in the past, and are freaks who can’t fit into society”
Not a creative bone in the whole bunch. You know, I don’t know about you, but, I think the real losers are the ones who have to drudge up cliches used literally hundreds of thousands of times before by millions of other people for the past 50-60 years to try and down people that are doing abso-f~~~ing-lutely nothing to them.
I mean, seriously, it takes a REAL delusional, sick, mind to pretend that’s some sort of crime, problem, or issue.
are you a chia pet in man drag If there is some bulls~~~ like this written , you can bet there is a TFM video that debunks it. It’s all about SELF validation. Just watch the enemies of man series of videos TFM made. Once you see this s~~~ in real time you begin to understand how people will use your ego to manipulate you. SELF VALIDATION – because the only opinion about you that matters is YOURS.
Being on Facebook doesn’t make anyone social. And having ‘friends’ on Facebook you’ve never met in real life are they truly your friends? Maybe when there is sunshine, but that never lasts.
The article is pretty retarded. Anyway, I’d rather have a few close friends, than hanging around a thousand strangers.
"Expecting to find a decent woman on a dating site is like dumpster diving and expecting to come out with a gourmet meal." Won'tGetFooledAgain
that last line about mgtow existing to warn younger inexperienced men about the financial rape that awaits them… That’s most accurate line in the article. Rich or poor, nice or abusive, good looking or not, generous or stingy all make no difference. If you are a straight man, the bait is the same, the trap is the same, and the result is the same. If you are a straight male, you are a resource to be harvested, or you are a mgtow. There is no third option offered to you by western women.
Look, it's not my fault that tornado dropped a house on your sister. Now get back on your broom and get your ass out of here... and take your monkeys with you
Anonymous11I’ve been rejected, and I have rejected women. So f~~~ing what, life goes on unimpeded.
I am MGHOW, because I am finished with women’s bulls~~~. It’s all bulls~~~ 24/7/365.
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