Hmm… female cohabitation

[Anonymous 9]

Man listen…

If you’re living with a chick, you’re going to eventually start f~~~ing.

Seems almost like a troll thread tbh.

There shouldn’t even be any consideration of keeping cool with a chick unless it benefits you in some way, i.e., sexually.

That’s all they’re good for is sex. If you all moved in together the lines will become blurred between a friendship and a relationship.

When I was young and naive, I thought guys could just be friends with a girl.

S~~~…

I’ve said it before on here, that’s f~~~ing impossible unless she’s ugly or you’re gay.

You don’t keep in contact with women unless you want to f~~~.

 

 

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

There’s another side to this, too.  I’ve found there are definite benefits to telling a woman she can’t movie in with you, and not just the obvious one of not having to put up with her s~~~ on a daily basis.

[MadScientistParticipant 131]

gllahone84, please go back above and re read my replies where I say “its not going to happen” 🙂 I am not trolling.. I wanted to get a genuine response and thoughts.

Secondly, I won’t ever have sex with her, end of story. That’s 100% guaranteed. You are free to disbelieve me, but I have conquered much larger temptations than pussy. A women isn’t going to undo me again, now that I have taken my red pills and understand the game!

Thirdly, I disagree that we can’t have female friends. If we have female platonic friends, we stay in the loop and can take advantage of their resources, friend networks and social knowledge for our own benefit. It just means we have to have discipline. Also guys, I don’t hang with regular women.. most of the women I know are from a Poly community, or Poly tolerant community, and are above average IQ, so having a close female friend you do not f~~~ is not a threat to her current paramour, boyfriend, or whatever. Its a completely different dynamic than most people are used to.

It doesn’t change female nature, but it does eliminate some of the barriers to female/male friendship. And since the women I hang out with are high IQ women, it’s all good, because there are actually things we have in common, like science, and tech, that we can talk about and relate about.

So while it may be true that on average your remarks would be accurate, in my case I am outside the bell curve for the most part in how I have structured my life, and I have access to some high IQ women that are very different than your usual slores.

And before you ask, no.. I am not getting into a romantic relationship with any of them. Ever. Once I friend zone a woman, its forever. I don’t cross that line again.

Peace, guys, and good luck out there!

[Anonymous 9]

That’s cool and all, but I’ve never friend zoned an attractive/intelligent women. They’re put on my roster of potential mates from where eventually we may end up sleeping together.

I also said it seems like your thread is borderline trollish, which I see as being an inaccurate assessment. My bad on that, but the 100% guarantee on not f~~~ing a chick is premature imo.

Especially if you’re living in close proximity to her. I mean come on man, have you conquered pussy the room over in a cohabiting situation?

If so, you’re of a different breed than me.

I don’t friend zone chicks either, and the ones that were characterized as such ended up in the bed with me sooner or later. Most of the time I never initiated that to happen, but it was more so their doing.

 

 

[KeymasterKeymaster]

MadScientist wrote:

Hey MGTOW dudes,So I have a question to be subjected to the hot, fiery crucible of MGTOW. Here we go:

Brave soul. This is not a crucifiction. Just being direct.

I don’t know how old you are but I am guessing you’re in your 20s. It wouldn’t be usual for a man +30 or +35 to think this could ever be a “good idea”. 40+ and it becomes a great big f~~~ing emphatic “NO WAY!”. Cohabitating with the modern woman begins with a capital DON’T.

The number one reason not to do it, is to not help her in any way. Help with the rent. Help sharing / paying bills. Helping her manage. Help her hook up the DVD player. Help her with her computer. You will now be the stooge who is expected to do all of this for her. Women are strong and independent now – so NO. You don’t let women into your life who you’re not f~~~ing. Ever. If you’re not f~~~ing her, she is dead to you. That sounds really absolute, but men ABSOLUTELY SHOULD NOT make it easier for women to manage or live.

They are taking jobs. They are disregarding applications from qualified male applicants. They are boasting about making more money and doing better in school and university, and you’re thinking about giving this girl a leg up? Even all that aside, this would be like signing an employment agreement that commits you for two years not to work for anyone else. You have heard of “OPPORTUNITY COSTS”? That’s when committing to one company forces you to say “no” to other options, better jobs, more money.

…. OR A BETTER WOMAN.

Are you at all interested in shagging another girl if she comes along?
Well why would you want a woman in your life when that happens?
Or on your couch watching TV when you bring her over.

And do you want to really EXPLAIN yourself to any chick you might want to bang when you tell her you live with a chick already? WEIRDNESS. The first thing any other vagina will see is her stains on your couch. I s~~~ you not, women actually think like that.

“ROOM” – MATES? The only “mating” you will be doing is with women who will preferably be gone before the sunlight even hits her face. But living with the modern female is giving her a ticket into having say in EVERYTHING – including what table goes where – and she will not hesitate to behave exactly like a wife without even putting out!

NO!. Just no. Even if you are splitting, you are brining more to the table than she. You will squash the spiders. You will wash the balcony and scrape away the snow. You will do the heavy lifting. You will spend a 1/2 a Sunday reinstalling her OS. You will climb the ladder to change a bulb. You will get the tools. You will get on your knees to hook up the stereo. You will buy the subwoofer which she also gets to enjoy for free. You will give her access to your movie collection and remote control. You will watch Sex and the City reruns. You will find yourself coming home to 5 of her BFFS and will find something else to do, or place to go at your own expense instead of hers. You will hammer the nails to hang a picture. You have no idea what you are setting yourself up for here.

… and to top it all off, you put her in a position to LIE and have YOU thrown out of your own place on a WHIM.

Doesn’t matter if she would – or wouldn’t. One call to 911 and you’re sleeping in jail tonight. Why the f~~~ would you ever even THINK about putting a woman in this position? Never mind any of the other s~~~. You will not put her in this position. She can’t have it. DENY her any and all rights over you. Remove all power and control from her.

But mostly…. force her to face life and manage on her own.

Why a man wool ever want to make life easier for a woman who isn’t is REAL mate or REAL prospective wife or girlfriend is incomprehensible.

Go ahead. SELL it to us. CONVINCE us it’s a good idea on any level. It’s OK. We’ll wait.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[ExsliventxsParticipant 1067]

Keymaster wrote:

One call to 911 and you’re sleeping in jail tonight. Why the f~~~ would you ever even THINK about putting a woman in this position? Never mind any of the other s~~~. You will not put her in this position. She can’t have it. DENY her any and all rights over you. Remove all power and control from her.

This is the ultimate bottom line, you’re not living with her, you’re a guest. A guest that can be disposed of with the full extent of the law. Any bills you’ve paid, anything she may claim to “owe” you can all be undone with one simple trumped up inexpensive restraining order. Then you’ll have to go through small claims court to get anything back. Which when added to time off of work, legal fees, gas, parking, looking for a new place to live… loss after loss.

You are bending over, spreading your asshole wide and trusting her to not shove a branch covered in splinters and fire ants in it.

You don’t plan for the best, you plan for the worst. The worst is clearly not worth it. I won’t condemn the thread because it’s a genuine question, I will condemn the action, you move in with her … well.. you’re a f~~~ing moron. So don’t.

[MadScientistParticipant 131]

Hey KeyMaster! Ok, I think this is difficult to explain for me since my lifestyle has been so outside the norm. Let me try to clarify:

I am in my 40s. I was married for 13 years, in an Open Marriage. What this means is that I had 4 different, secondary partners over time who all met my wife, even had dinner with her and I and everything was, amazingly, ok. My wife had 3 separate secondary relationships, and I met all of them. One of them is still a friend of mine. Ever since then, I have been self identifying as polyamorous, and its worked out very well for me so far.

Keep in mind.. My Ex Wife had an IUD, and demanded that the men use condoms as well. The likelihood of pregnancy was near zero, even without a condom. So that was never an issue. STDs were also not a problem, as we both demanded testing before sex, and routinely every 6 months or so. We also demanded full disclosure.

Now, could people have lied? Of course! But we did our best to only associate with reliable people, and protected ourselves. If you plan your life around the 1% possibility, I think you end up not being able to live your choices, or take risks in order to find some sort of happiness or growth. The trick is properly evaluating the Risk/Reward equation, right?

Anyway, during this time, I learned how Not To Be Jealous. I shed my conditioning on sexual jealousy and realized it was actually about abandonment and being cuckolded (aka, having to raise someone else’s child without my consent or knowledge), and not actually about sex. Once I eliminated those concerns, over time I was able to be free of the sexual jealousy gnome, and instead focussed on the real things which could hurt me, aka non contributing, disrespect, ignorance, etc. That is what eventually ended our marriage (non contributing), not anything related to sex.

So now here I am, and I don’t have the jealousy bug. This also seems to have meant that I don’t have any trouble whatsoever denying sex to an attractive woman who wants it from me, but from whom I detect the crazy, or don’t know very well, or doesn’t have a good reputation in my circles, etc. Yes, my female friend(s) are attractive, and sexy. And no, I am not ever going to have sex with them, because I wouldn’t have sex with the men I am friends with either, and they are in the same basic box, but perhaps with more hugs and couch time. Also, it helps a LOT to have female friends who will stick up for you.. if I ever did get into a false allegation, they would stick up for me (I know this because they have done so, socially), and as you know a woman’s word is worth more in those cases to the broader public.

Apparently, it was an unintended consequence of getting rid of jealousy, perhaps combined with a lot of introspection. I had no idea that would happen, but it’s pretty cool. 🙂 Interestingly, it only seems to make them more interested in associating with me as a person, and they are giving me a s~~~load of female perspective on OTHER women that has been invaluable to me. Occasionally, they have also functioned as WingWomen for me, helping me get over the social proof barrier on numerous occasions by going with me to parties and, I s~~~ you not, reeling in a girl for me without me laying down a finger.

This doesn’t happen that often lately because I have been intentionally staying away from parties and such in order to focus on personal goals, but for a number of years, this was not uncommon.

My female friends are all (all 3 of them), essentially, WGTOW, as far as I can tell. They are all genuinely independent. Maybe that will change down the road.. who knows? I just know that I will not be impregnating any of them, and, based on your guys sage advice, nor will I be living with them. Those are risks I am not willing to take.

[MadScientistParticipant 131]

Oh and by the way, my best female friend recently fixed my brakes for me, without me asking, because she had borrowed my truck for a trip and noticed it was being a bit off. She also changed my coolant, and refilled my gas tank when it was returned. She even knew to use a torque wrench on the tires and told me my previous mechanic has overtorqued the lugs and I should yell at them for that.

Ok? Believe me yet? Im really freaking picky, guys, trust me. I don’t fall for the T~~~ and Ass anymore.

[ExsliventxsParticipant 1067]

MadScientist wrote:

Oh and by the way, my best female friend recently fixed my brakes for me, without me asking, because she had borrowed my truck for a trip and noticed it was being a bit off. She also changed my coolant, and refilled my gas tank when it was returned. She even knew to use a torque wrench on the tires and told me my previous mechanic has overtorqued the lugs and I should yell at them for that. Ok? Believe me yet? Im really freaking picky, guys, trust me. I don’t fall for the T~~~ and Ass anymore.

MGTOW is going your own way. You have more specific information about this woman’s behavior than we’ve been allowed to analyze (and would probably care to analyze). The point is, it’s your OWN WAY, if you feel comfortable with her even after swallowing the red pill, then maybe she is okay FOR YOU.

All we can do here is give you repeated textbook examples of how NAWALT turn into AWALT. You readily understand that part of being a man involves risk. This is a risk you will bear alone. I personally do not believe that all women are active grenades, but duds are hard to find and are NOT worth the trouble. If you feel she won’t bend you over then proceed. If she does ruin you somehow, I won’t say I told you so, because there’s no need to state the obvious.

If you accept the risks and conditions set forth by moving in with a woman that has the law readily available and biased to her gender, that anything and everything she may say whether right or wrong could cause you jail time, loss of life, property and happiness. If so please sign here.

 

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Disclaimer: I told you so.  =)

[MadScientistParticipant 131]

Not going to move in with her… said that a bunch of times. 🙂

I was responding to other comments. I am NOT going to move in with her!

Thanks for your points, Exsliventxs!

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