Help – Loneliness and Depression

[AutoliteParticipant]

Fundamental_man wrote:

Having a dog or a cat is very beneficial for older people’s health. Maybe it would be good for you, too?

I don’t get lonely. It’s just the way that I’m wired psychologically. But getting a good dog is seriously the best way to beat loneliness…

[Daryll55Participant 2950]

What I was trying to say in my prior post is that LONLINESS & DERPRESSION are both a state of mind. OTHERS see you that way;why should you?
I am ALONE today,……
Am I LONELY??? NO! I am by myself .but I just had a great meal and have about 5 things I want to do. Am I DEPRESSED ??? NO! I just had a fantastic home cooked meal and have a buncha stuff to do over the weekend. Some of it is work, some play, but I enjoy it all because I can do it all at my Pace with NO ONE to nag me! Itsa very unstressed,peaceful,fulfilling way to live !

Marry again, Hell NO ! ( Even JESUS was hung on a cross just once)

[hmskl’dParticipant 6408]

TDOTMGTOW wrote:

how did you overcome loneliness

Where do I begin? So I guess I’ll start at “the beginning”
pairing up versus not pairing up is not the solution to loneliness or depression
.. just as living off grid is not the solution to financial demands .. sometimes it costs more

TDOTMGTOW wrote:

I am starting to like these other girls and thinking about having relationships with them….

nothing wrong with liking girls .. I’m attracted to girls .. even though I know that, if I give them the opportunity, they will most likely chew me up financially, emotionally and even spiritually .. and then spit me out on the pavement

TDOTMGTOW wrote:

I’m what you call a soyboy. I don’t drink any of it but I take things too personally, am too sensitive and downright depressed.

I have learned in my short lifespan, that women don’t care about labels .. they couldn’t care less about one’s slang definitions .. it doesn’t matter how many diplomas or degrees they’ve been given .. they are shallow. What do I mean by shallow? .. they are shallow in the sense that they never fail to amaze me with their outward behaviors that seem so utterly irrational .. it almost makes me laugh .. if it wasn’t so sad. These behaviors often continue into the realm of their personal finances .. just within my own circle of acquaintances, I have seen so many .. yes, many women absolutely devastate their financial lives .. whilst at the same time working in fields such as banking of product planning or management. It’s a jaw dropping spectacle to witness and the only word I can find to describe it is “shallow” .. fickle .. shallow/fickle .. monkey branching fickle .

TDOTMGTOW wrote:

but whenever a more handsome, taller dude comes around they just forget I exist

Ah, yes .. the other guy. The other dude who floats into the picture .. mr alpha/mr player .. who by the way doesn’t really exist as defined
the true alpha … borrowing the actual definition of an individual with strong inner sense of where he is going .. is the guy going his own way

There are 7.5 billion people on earth right now. Approximately, half of that are women, 3.25 Billion (3 – 4 billion women). Think about those numbers for a second and .. at least for me .. makes me cringe thinking about all that AWALT .. none are NAWALT .. zero are Unicorn.

Companionship can be purchased for an amazingly low price, all across the globe .. dining, hotels .. and entertainment.

Since all “ALL” relationships essentially involve payment for involvement .. you “pay to play” .. why not just occasionally buy the best quality experiences on the market?

they just forget I exist

.. nope, they don’t .. women may be shallow, they may be devious and even cruel .. but they don’t forget you exist .. never, ever … ever

As women Monkey Branch through their pre wall years, they are flipping and floundering like a fish on the diving platform of a boat .. there is no way to get a serious answer or action out of them .. they grab, they flail and they live lives that cannot be explained or defined in any manner

however, they don’t forget you are the branch just off to the side and within easy reach as they climb sideways and then diagonally and then downward .. eventually realizing that the late pre-wall behavior is not producing anything other than wrinkles and adipose .. so as they approach the wall, and they fall off the carousel and scrub their noses in the dirt on the carnival midway ..
a small fleeting thought appears in their brain that they better find some security for themselves and their broods before it’s totally too late

relationships with them

This brings us back to “the other guy” the dude that floats into the picture .. he is now known a mangina or white knight
if you ever hear of these terms .. all I can say is ..”pity that guy”

… I saw one the other day pushing grocery cart and being lead by his own exclusive AWALT. I heard her say to him “Now go and pick out the cereal you want” .. in other words, I witnessed an awalt communicating with her mangina .. giving him permission to pick out a breakfast cereal .. essentially, for being a good boy.

If you ever see me in that situation in the grocery aisle .. Please Shoot Me .. put me out of my misery.

… whether he is player, during the build up years to the wall .. or later becomes the mangina – subcategory white knight .. he “that other guy” eventually ends up as they all do .. gnashing his teeth in pain and wishing, to no avail, that he’d never met that girl .. never crossed paths with her in any way, shape or form.

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When you see a woman dressed “fit to kill” in a public setting, “pre-wall” anywhere in public, her “near wall years” at the grocery store .. be it tight fitting clothes, fancy dress clothes or even something so novel and horrendously outrageous that you can tell she is seeking attention .. just remember, she’s not dressing for the guys .. nope, she’s dressing to be seen and admired by other women.
Women don’t dress for men .. they want to impress their sisters .. they want to show everyone female that they “still can” dress floozy and pull it off.

Thus, the ever present “Yoga Pants” spectacle .. everywhere. I must endure the sight of these flaunting floozies in my daily life just because they are showing off to their female counterparts. The simple reason is to say, again .. I can do this .. I have not hit the wall hard enough so that I can’t .. pull off the stunt of wearing yoga pants in public forum. It is so simple, because they usually think simple .. and shallow .. don’t let them drag you down .. you are above it all .. the games .. the inexplicable behaviors .. their endless issues

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Forget labels – they don’t exist .. don’t get depressed by a small circle of acquaintances or “a school girl” even two girls or more .. that have done you wrong in their fickle ways .. explore new cultures .. don’t limit yourself .. ever

.. tell yourself that in a couple of decades, or so, you will be anchored somewhere off the coast of Bimini on your sailboat .. enjoying a glorious Caribbean sunset while sipping on a cool drink .. start saving today for that boat

.. the world is out there for you, waiting, welcoming, no labels, no judgements .. travel, companionship, expand those horizons .. plnty time for everything
.. you’ll be so glad you did .. hav’a grt day .. rmbr, have some fun .. Cheers!!!

[Gravel PitParticipant]

TDOTMGTOW wrote:

I’m what you call a soyboy. I don’t drink any of it but I take things too personally, am too sensitive

Don’t self label yourself.

All this soyboy and incel crap is bologna! We are not the defects! I refuse to be labeled effeminate or “involuntary” or whatever shaming label they invent next, all so women can deflect the blame from their gross pretensions.

Men haven’t changed, we’re still strapping, courageous, loving, brave, honorable badasses! It’s women who abandoned their nature, not us.

My advice to you is echoed from a great MGTOW man I learned from named Messenger Rising, he said “make friends with yourself and you will never be lonely.” Our path here in MGTOW is not just some immature he-man woman-haters club, this is a very serious and healthy self-searching and eventual self-actualization. YOU ARE A MAN, YOU HAVE THE PENIS. YOU ARE IN CHARGE OF YOUR LIFE. Dont let some Gash divert you from your path.

[iMickey503Participant 12465]

This whole thread. And All I want to see is photos of that coffee table.

That must be the BEST coffee table that has ever lived. Next to mine I use to have.

Just having something great made in Italy was amazing.

University is such s~~~ these days. You never see anything as nice as this in the Dorms or open areas.

So many great coffee tables out there, and none of them ever get the appreciation that they deserve.

TO the O.P. , What the HELL did you get your degree in? And just like another member asked, WHAT do YOU want to do with your life?

If you just want to get a girl to suck your dick silly? Gag on that s~~~, and ask for more? Confidence bro. Women don’t really care what you look like dude. They can smell a man a mile away. Its all head games bro. Some men just got it. Others don’t.

The oldest trick in the book is thinking that Because you got a degree, you get women to swoon after you. This idea is pushed on so many young men. And most of them know full well, that it’s bulls~~~.

Ask yourself, have you ever seen Van Wilder in Real life? Have you ever seen parties like that? No. They only exist in Movies. The world has fooled you to think that there is this great life that you will start out of school. And life requires that you have a woman on your arm. Well, they sure as hell don’t tell women that.

Bro, this depresion thing. Its part of living around and being around people who just simply have no real direction on their own. No real hobbies. No real life. Being around people that suck is most of your problem. And, with the ratio being so high, time to get out of that scene.

Time to get some sunshine, A nice tan, and if not? GET SOME HALOGEN LIGHTS IN YOUR HOUSE. NOT LED, not Fluorescent. HALOGEN. The kind that sucks up electricity, gives out a s~~~ ton of heat, and makes you feel warm and good inside. People don’t know this but a Fireplace was one of the best ways to fight off depresion. Its no rocket stove. That was never the point. It was about watching the magic of the flames as they soothing crackling of the wood lets you know the world is alive with light, heat and energy. All those rays from the sun helped grow that tree. And here you are letting it back out as Plasma into the world to begin the cycle all over again.

The thing you need to know that more important then all others? Each man here MADE the MISTAKES to get him to happiness. That’s the tough part of life as a man. You don’t get there unless you make some mistakes. And those that made them, end up being pretty happy in the end.

I can’t tell you what to do about being lonely, since that’s your bag man. Some people are just that way. Me? I’d sneek into an old folks home and get some gumm jobs. It never gets old cumming on a womans face while screaming “IT PUTS THE LOTION ON THE SKIN!” But what you do on a Friday night is up to you.

I know the kind of guy you are. Buying a woman is not going to make you feel better. For most men, its the challenge. Its sort of like hunting. Or wining a game. And being rewarded with a prize. Your mind has been conditioned to think that way.

But if you really want to snap out of it? Get your ass out of debt, get as little as $8000 dollars of F~~~ you money, keep that s~~~ safe, and try to spend $100 dollars in the Stock market. See what you can grow it too. Seems like you got some time to kill. Why not make some money since you don’t seem to be going anywhere right now.

Also, stop f~~~ing around on FaceF~~~. Dude, No one cares about that s~~~ or is going to remember you. I don’t know if went to school to do what you want, or to do what you have to do. But that might be the biggest problem you got.

Since you are up there, if you ARE into tech? Check out Linus on Linus tech tips. Build some cool s~~~ man. I’, about to build a Light up crosswalk. I’m looking at the parts I need to cobble tegther to make it work just like the comercial ones. but do it on the cheap. All cuz, WELL f~~~ CUZ I CAN!

Sure sounds stupid right? Like I’m doing something for free? Maybe. But it just proves how useless other people are. I don’t need help, f~~~ you permision or state permit. And I do what the f~~~ I want.

Maybe you should do the same bro.

And I really want to see a photo of that coffee table.

You are all alone. If you have been falsely accused of RAPE, DV, PLEASE let all men know about the people who did this. http://register-her.net/web/guest/home

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

Too many f~~~s given here.

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[sidecarParticipant 35837]

TDOTMGTOW wrote:

I would like to have some advice from the older folks here, how did you overcome loneliness?

What the f~~~ is loneliness? Ask yourself that.

Also, if you spend enough time around women and actually listen to the s~~~ they say, you’ll soon learn to appreciate being alone.

Find a hobby you enjoy, preferably outdoors and active, and make friends with the other men in your area who are also into it. Join a climbing club or a football team or whatever. You’ll see the married men in whatever club it is are all miserable. They’re there to get the f~~~ away from their wives for a few hours, but then the poor bastards have to go back home to them. You’ll be thankful that isn’t you.

tl;dr: get a motorcycle.

[Solo MAN’S WisdomParticipant]

TDOTMGTOW wrote:

I’m what you call a soyboy. I don’t drink any of it but I take things too personally, am too sensitive and downright depressed.

You’ve been conditioned to think this way — from birth. Boys are conditioned to seek approval from their mothers first and then [if Mom hasn’t divorce raped him, and seen him jailed with false DV charges first] their fathers. If Dad is not around, then you can count on TV, social media, sisters, aunts, and anything else feminine to take a massive s~~~ on your self worth.

Trying to appease the unappeasable is maddening for an adult man, much less a young man.

CONSIDER THESE SUGGESTIONS.

DO NOT LET WOMEN DETERMINE YOUR [SELF] WORTH.

DO NOT ARGUE WITH WOMEN.

DO NOT MARRY.

DO NOT IMPREGNATE.

DO NOT COHABITATE.

If you’re lonely, get a dog.

When women lead, destruction is the destination. -- Me.

[NerdTunnelerParticipant]

Get a dog. And pursue your dreams. Dont chase pussy or put it into a pedestal. If it fails, install 9gag on phone…

I stand with feet apart and let my balls hang free...Manginas dont have balls...See how they stand and sit at the whim of their masters...

[SandalsParticipant 4253]

TDOTMGTOW wrote:

I’m what you call a soyboy.

Tic wrote:

depression, as they say, is hate directed inwards.

With YouTube, you can listen to motivational speakers all day long, take blue pills every day (that means listening to MGTOW channels – I like Liberation Y’s channel), and figure out what’s wrong with you.

Everything in your brain is chemical. You grew up with divorced parents. That’s why you are depressed. People who grow up with single mothers are depressed, and people who grow up with both parents who love them together are not.

Your mother, like all mothers, is bats~~~ crazy, and transferred all her feminine bulls~~~ to you.

Depression is chemicals secreted in the brain to certain stimuli (or lack of certain stimuli) based on learned behaviors at a young age. Is your mother depressed? Do you have the same thoughts, feelings, and reactions as her?

Chances are, all the s~~~ you do and think doesn’t even belong to you. You are literally thinking someone else’s thoughts, that have been programmed into you like you were a blank hard drive. Whose thought’s are you taking ownership of?

Do two things… listen to the bible (Word of Promise), and then begin listening to Eckhart Tolle religiously. No, this has NOTHING to do with religion. It’s wisdom of the ages. You need to understand you are a Pavlov dog, trained to salivate at certain stiumli (of lack of) by your childhood upbringing.

By listening to those two, and then moving on to other motivational speakers, you will come into awareness of your thoughts, and that they are in fact not your own thoughts. Listening to the bible will show you how f~~~ed up things have been for a looooooong time, and that everyone is f~~~ed up, and that there is nothing new under the sun.

You have to stop taking ownership of the thoughts someone else programmed into you as chemical reactions in the brain. Feelings are chemicals, that’s it. Learn to short curcuit your feelings.

Oh, and go to Asia and bang hookers for cheap. Wear a condom. And be careful not to get robbed, etc… Take precautions. It’s important that every man understand the true worth of a women, which is about 6 bucks. That should take the mask off the American overpriced girl for you. They’re paper tigers. But you’ll never know unless you find out for yourself. You’ll always think they are worth the price tag, if you don’t adjust your perspective.

[MaverickParticipant 811]

iMickey503 wrote:

Bro, this depresion thing. Its part of living around and being around people who just simply have no real direction on their own. No real hobbies. No real life. Being around people that suck is most of your problem. And, with the ratio being so high, time to get out of that scene.

That’s my problem. Seems like most of the people around me (esp at work) are like this. I’m not really depressed but it’s a downer to interact with some of these people.

[SpiderHerderParticipant 3766]

Maverick wrote:

That’s my problem. Seems like most of the people around me (esp at work) are like this. I’m not really depressed but it’s a downer to interact with some of these people.

Yeah, it’s definitely a drag. I’ve met a few interesting intelligent men recently which is a rare opportunity. I’m enjoying every bit of it, for it is temporary like everything in this universe.

Nice to see you again on here, Maverick. I hope you’re doing well.

[MaverickParticipant 811]

SpiderHerder wrote:

Maverick wrote:

That’s my problem. Seems like most of the people around me (esp at work) are like this. I’m not really depressed but it’s a downer to interact with some of these people.

Yeah, it’s definitely a drag. I’ve met a few interesting intelligent men recently which is a rare opportunity. I’m enjoying every bit of it, for it is temporary like everything in this universe.
Nice to see you again on here, Maverick. I hope you’re doing well.

Awesome! Enjoy it while it lasts.
Doing fine, thanks. I kinda stayed away for awhile as it was a bit chaotic and then suddenly there wasn’t much activity. The forum seems to be slowly picking up steam. Glad to see you and some of the others regulars still posting here.

[AstroParticipant 2045]

You alone are responsible for your happiness, no woman can give it to you as they only want their happiness, which you cannot achieve. You are here to enjoy what the world has to offer and you will be amazed what you will find.

[TDOTMGTOWParticipant 40]

Branched off wrote:

TDOTMGTOW wrote:

Thank you, I really do appreciate the advice. @Branchedoff Yeah, I am quite sensitive. I think I need to have more experiences that will challenge me and in turn shape me to a better man. I haven’t been seeking those activities out as I thought the “safe” route to life would be best. As the others pointed out, I do only have one life and I should not regret living it as the only person who will help me is myself. Others on here were saying that women won’t help me be happy that’s true… but I still have the BP way of thinking that maybe a forever after exists. When I hear the horror stories here, maybe I was right in just focusing on work and getting my net worth up. Thank you MGTOW! From a young man lacking direction.

It sounds like you are already looking in healthy directions. I would say “net worth” is not just financial, its the sum of the whole man and it certainly includes self worth. In challenging yourself don’t be hard on yourself. It can be very easy to feel down but look at yourself like your own coach or like your own son or nephew. You are challenging yourself because you love yourself not because you are a hateful maggot you want to transform. Only ask yourself to do what is just outside your present comfort zone and the envelope of “safe” will rapidly expand. You will also learn a bit about danger. Danger and risk take many forms -from falling off a cliff to getting hurt by the wrong woman but it is often the case that the ability to assess risk in a dynamic situation is to a degree a transferable skill. One you get an idea of what danger and imminent failure feel like, it will help you to relax when you are safe and get the heck out when you are not.
Just relax about the women thing. The rest of your life seems very bleak when you are feeling down on yourself. It won’t be like that if you take yourself in hand. Some men do navigate women successfully, some get burnt, others stay away. You don’t have to decide on all that yet as you are not getting women aiming themselves in your direction right now and it would not be the best choice to make yourself a pussy beggar and start chasing the low value ones. Just work on having a happy successful life where you know and love yourself and the whole women thing is the next chapter but if you lay the ground right first, it can be one where you are the author not a character in a farce or tragedy. Review it all at 30 and it should feel so different if you have got it right. If not, there is still plenty of time left at 30 for a healthy man.

Thank you for this insight. A perspective to take in.

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