Hello MGTOW brothers. What a biatch…

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JVB wrote:

Great story DaveV. You got lucky bro. Good to hear your doing fine and happy. Welcome sir.

Thanks JVB. It’s good to be here.

I was damn damn lucky. Alot of my friends who got married after me and where it hasn’t worked out, sadly haven’t been as lucky. Hence I am here to spread the news, red pill, and MGTOW !

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Anonymous wrote:

Welcome home, DaveV
Beer’s in the fridge

Thanks M52.

Cheers !

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[Anonymous 54]

So she couldnt really love you without a maid.

Nice intro.

Welcome Dave V!!!

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Anonymous wrote:

So she couldnt really love you without a maid.

Nice intro.

Welcome Dave V!!!

Thanks Old Sage !

Yep, so true. I wouldn’t have minded having the maid, but the ex didn’t want a threesome lol

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[Anonymous 1]

Awesome Introduction.

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Anonymous wrote:

How come I never hear happy stories about women? Always run run run! I guess there isn’t any happy stories outside of RUN RUN RUN!

MG, from my perspective, it was a happy ending ! I got out without being asset stripped by the State and by a woman who contributed nothing other than her pus*y (and even that was begrudgingly). I am free of debt now. I live a simple enjoyable life. Most of the best things in life are however free. I have travelled to many places. I am not really lonely but I do miss some things. I have great mates to hang out with. The only people that don’t like hanging out with me, are married men with kids, they seem to keep trying to get me to marry again – whilst they are endlessly complaining about their debts, their wives, their declining sex lives, not being to able to enjoy simple pleasures such as going for weekends away, or just having an afternoon off chilling with the mates. Life has its ups and downs – you can’t have happiness without something unhappy being there, and control of things is just an illusion – what you can decide though is which path (that are available to you) you wish to go down. The road of marriage in the UK is paved with many many hazards which you cannot avoid – the odds are stacked against you and you are at the mercy of a woman’s character (when hateful and angry) and the legal system who are out to asset strip you the first chance they get. The stats say 65-70% of women initiate the divorce, with 42% of all UK marriages ending in divorce……would you bet your life savings, your sanity, your assets, your future earnings, your pension, your career and access to your kids on those odds ????……so yes I consider myself one of the very very lucky ones who got out relatively unscathed….and I want to save as many decent blokes from that fate…or at least they go in with their eyes open.

I have no issue with feminism, if they want equality between men and women on ALL issues. But in the UK, in this day and age, women have access to the same things a man has. Education, work, freedom of movement, freedom to not have kids or not, freedom to marry or not. So why does the family courts and legal system punish the guy disproportionately ?

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[Anonymous 54]

DaveV wrote:

The only people that don’t like hanging out with me, are married men with kids, they seem to keep trying to get me to marry again – whilst they are endlessly complaining about their debts, their wives, their declining sex lives, not being to able to enjoy simple pleasures such as going for weekends away, or just having an afternoon off chilling with the mates.

Why do they do this.They’ll spend an hour bitching about their misrable wives, then without even takeing a breath tell you not to give up on finding “the right one”Well that would make me an idiot wouldnt it.

[Can’t Stump TrumpParticipant]

Wow, I just have to say, the plot twist in your story made me breathe a sigh of relief.

Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.

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Anonymous wrote:

They’ll spend an hour bitching about their misrable wives, then without even takeing a breath tell you not to give up on finding “the right one”

Misery loves company I’m told.

Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.

[Anonymous 54]

Can’t Stump Trump wrote:

Old Sage wrote:

They’ll spend an hour bitching about their misrable wives, then without even takeing a breath tell you not to give up on finding “the right one”

Misery loves company I’m told.

Well misery is going to be lonley! Hahah

[~BSParticipant 3266]

For the next 3 months, her mother, father, brothers would harass me almost daily to take her back. I didn’t reply. I changed my phone, changed the door locks, put up a security camera and alarm.’

And do you know why the happiest day of the bride’s family life is when she gets married? Because you take her away, and they don’t need to deal with her BS anymore! And now she got dropped back in their laps again.

But I’m really happy for you that your ex was too dumb and lazy to make sure that you guys were married in the eyes of your home country and that you guys would get a fat settlement. If she was smarter, she would have retained a lawyer and had him check all that crap out before walking out.

"He didn't marry until now, so he won't ever do it. Think about it, why would a man like him ever marry? It's too late to catch him. " ~some cunt

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Anonymous wrote:

DaveV wrote:

The only people that don’t like hanging out with me, are married men with kids, they seem to keep trying to get me to marry again – whilst they are endlessly complaining about their debts, their wives, their declining sex lives, not being to able to enjoy simple pleasures such as going for weekends away, or just having an afternoon off chilling with the mates.

Why do they do this.They’ll spend an hour bitching about their misrable wives, then without even takeing a breath tell you not to give up on finding “the right one”Well that would make me an idiot wouldnt it.

Spot on Sage.

My only reply to them was that, ‘I would only consider marrying if I could have a prenup that was legally binding that any assets I have now, stay mine, whatever happens. Whatever she brings into the marriage that is her’s, stay’s her’s. That’s equality. If we had kids, we share the costs, 50/50, share the looking after 50/50, and if it goes wrong, we share custody 50/50. Also she and I cannot claim any assets or income that we accumulate after the divorce’. They look at me, get angry (I speak to them respectfully), and tell me ‘that’s crazy !, that will never happen’…I ask ‘why is that crazy? Isn’t that equality ? Isn’t that what feminist’s/women want ? Surely to not do otherwise would be prejudice and bias towards one gender ? All I am asking for is equality in all things. Otherwise we are saying the man is the breadwinner and resource provider, the woman looks after the family and home. Surely feminists and women are fighting against this gender bias ?- at least that is what I am constantly been told by women at work. They can’t have their cake and eat it, IMO.

The question I wonder is , why do they get so angry at me for saying this ? Then when I tell them I am buying this computer, or going away on holiday for 2 weeks in Japan, they sigh and say ‘its easy for you to do these things, you don’t understand, I have kids, I have commitments’. It is unbelievable how many times they say it to me, and how often they end with that statement. I don’t reply, but I wonder, its not my f**king fault you didn’t use a condom. No one put a gun to your head to have the kids. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t hate kids, and I think with a good wife, they can be a source of joy, but these days, it’s too expensive to have kids unless you are on welfare (and I think the intention of the government here is to dumb down the population to make them compliant). Its the reason that population growth in Japan, Korea, Singapore, Hong Kong etc has declined dramatically, because it’s too expensive to bring up a child. That is where the UK is heading.

In summary, the married blokes were my mates from college for a long time, but I don’t have a go at them constantly for their lifestyle choices – all I ask is they respect my choices and reasons..even if they don’t agree with them….for now 😉 – i did however get one to admit recently, he said, ‘why should you be the only one not suffering’. Their wives however hate me or at least dislike me spending too much time with their husbands because I am seen as ‘bad influence’

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prenups don’t really work…. they’re routinely thrown out of divorce court. They should be seen as more of a strong request rather than an enforceable contract. I fixed your statement below. In effect, by marrying in a foreign country, and not getting the paperwork done in your home country, that is what you did.

I would only consider marrying if we had the ceremony (as a formality), but there was no legal marriage documents involved so that any assets I have now, stay mine, whatever happens.

"He didn't marry until now, so he won't ever do it. Think about it, why would a man like him ever marry? It's too late to catch him. " ~some cunt

[Anonymous 54]

Dave V. After their wives hear about your little talk, they wont be allowed to hang out with you anyways! Hah Married men are never allowed to hang out with me. And I dont even say anything. They just adopt some of my Manlyness and thats just not allowed. I cant be around that s~~~ anyways.

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~BS wrote:

For the next 3 months, her mother, father, brothers would harass me almost daily to take her back. I didn’t reply. I changed my phone, changed the door locks, put up a security camera and alarm.’

And do you know why the happiest day of the bride’s family life is when she gets married? Because you take her away, and they don’t need to deal with her BS anymore! And now she got dropped back in their laps again.

But I’m really happy for you that your ex was too dumb and lazy to make sure that you guys were married in the eyes of your home country and that you guys would get a fat settlement. If she was smarter, she would have retained a lawyer and had him check all that crap out before walking out.

She expected me to do everything. I probably would gotten round to it, if I wasn’t so busy working long hours. Thank God I didn’t ! An oversight that saved me !

I was told she married again several years later, she was actually stunning, kind of a Angelina Jolie look alike . However it didn’t last, and from what I was told, he didn’t have much to offer financially/she didn’t have much to offer. She ended up back at her parent’s again. I haven’t bothered finding out what happened after that – and I never will.

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~BS wrote:

prenups don’t really work…. they’re routinely thrown out of divorce court. They should be seen as more of a strong request rather than an enforceable contract. I fixed your statement below. In effect, by marrying in a foreign country, and not getting the paperwork done in your home country, that is what you did.

I would only consider marrying if we had the ceremony (as a formality), but there was no legal marriage documents involved so that any assets I have now, stay mine, whatever happens.

And that would remain so, until we had kids in the UK. Whether we had a legal marriage documents or not, I would lose some if not all my assets. It’s likely I would be kicked out of my own home. I know that Pre-nups are not legally binding in the UK family courts, if the courts deem them ‘unfair’. But they do not define ‘unfairness’, so you are at their mercy. I only said that because it’s impossible in the UK at this moment in time. So my condition on getting married is, I keep my assets that I had before the marriage, and the same for her. That is equality in my view.

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The Manipulated Man wrote:

Many thanks for your introduction Dave V,

You dodged a bullet, learned your lesson, and are living well.

What a fine example of how to do it!

I look forward to reading your contributions in the Forums.

Alas, it took more Red Pills for me to eventually get it.

And now my view of the biological strategy of “Woman’s Nature” is severer.

This video is only one of the many examples of this strategy found in nature:

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Absolutely hilarious ! But certainly truth in there !

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[Anonymous 13]

Welcome.

I’m so happy you escaped relatively unscathed.

Now for your punishment.

I want you to write on the board 100 times:

Never. F~~~ing. Again.

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DaveV wrote:

I am indifferent to women now, I don’t hate them, I don’t really care about feminism. All I want to do is to ensure decent honest blokes (from all walks of life) are not screwed and their lives destroyed. And sadly, as I see it, the best way under the present system in the UK, is to have nothing to do with them.

Welcome to the club. Doesn’t sound too different from the US. I have managed to miss the screw job 3 out of 4 times, but I actually had one LTR steal my house. I mean literally steal it from my property. I had a fairly nice mobile home. I was living out of state at the time. She stole the title, forged the signature, and hooked up to it a pulled it off to her property. And women try to make you think they don’t have b~~~~!

I don’t believe in female magic anymore. And will never again gut myself to make room for it. --Narwhal--

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SilverOne wrote:

DaveV wrote:

I am indifferent to women now, I don’t hate them, I don’t really care about feminism. All I want to do is to ensure decent honest blokes (from all walks of life) are not screwed and their lives destroyed. And sadly, as I see it, the best way under the present system in the UK, is to have nothing to do with them.

Welcome to the club. Doesn’t sound too different from the US. I have managed to miss the screw job 3 out of 4 times, but I actually had one LTR steal my house. I mean literally steal it from my property. I had a fairly nice mobile home. I was living out of state at the time. She stole the title, forged the signature, and hooked up to it a pulled it off to her property. And women try to make you think they don’t have b~~~~!

Thanks SilverOne.

Great profile pic, spock had it right. He never chased women, was indifferent to them. Honourable, loyal, logical, never stabbed anyone in the back…and ironically he got the biggest female fanbase of all the trek characters, and that includes Kirk.

In the UK however you aren’t imprisoned if you can’t afford court costs or alimony. The State/ex wife here doesn’t want to put you in prison, because if they do, you will become bankrupt, and have a criminal record. You will come out of prison with nothing, and with a criminal record, no one will hire you, so you will be totally reliant on the state/welfare. You may not get government housing, but the courts won’t go after you after that as you have nothing. That is unless you do find work, then they will go after anything you earn. So you have several choices, (a) leave the country (b) stay on welfare all your life (c) become a slave by working and giving everything you earn to the State and the ex , whilst you have even less money left at the end of the day than you would have if you stayed on welfare!

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