Hello, Me. It's Me again.

[TheSpiceParticipant 2644]

I’m not sure what’s expected in these intros, but let me start by saying, I’m new to MGTOW. I found this site by googling MGTOW after watching some “MGTOW is Freedom” videos on YouTube. When his channel got removed I wanted to learn more and now I’m finally here after some lurking.

I was married for about 4 years to a real piece of work. She came from a lot of money and always wanted more… more more more. We had a beautiful new home in the suburbs, two new cars, etc. but it just wasn’t ever enough. She was always looking for a fight, but I never really gave her one, which seemed to p~~~ her off more. Long story short, we “mutually” decided on a divorce and then I found out she’d been seeing her boss on the side. She wanted OUR house, but I told her to f~~~ off. We sold it. The divorce was financially okish, minus the huge debt racked up from married life, which we split.

After a few months of being apart, she needed some paperwork. We met for dinner and handled it. She then told me how she thought about me still and wondered what it would be like to start seeing each other again. In my strongest moment of my entire life, I told her “You know it’s too late for that.” And that was it. She was off to make another guy miserable… and she did.

I had friends that worked in her company that told me everything. Apparently she and he had a child and then she promptly divorced his ass. Based on his salary at the time, I’m sure she’s still being paid handsomely. The kid is probably about 16ish now.

Bah… I’ve tried to make it work with women since, but just end up beating my head against the wall. What happened to the woman who loves her man no matter what? Through thick and thin. For better or worse.

Women these days seem to be only about “girl power”. They hate men (except for our dicks and money) and can’t seem to figure out why guys like me say “f~~~ it, I’m done.”

I’m not going to lie… I spent a lot of my life as a blue pill mangina… trying to please women… trying to be the “nice guy”… trying to be the “understanding” guy… After watching a great video on this site “On Alpha Males” I get why I was frustrated and why the women I was attracting were straying. I’m not an alpha, nor do I give a s~~~ about becoming one. I just want to live my damn life my way… it looks like it will be without a woman.

"I've been thinking about what it would be like if we got back together."
"You know it's too late for that."

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

TheSpice wrote:

I found this site by googling MGTOW after watching some “MGTOW is Freedom” videos on YouTube. When his channel got removed I wanted to learn more and now I’m finally here after some lurking.

Welcome to MGTOW, brother.

The “ghost” of John’s old channel is here.

Big John – “MGTOW is Freedom” Video archive – all of his 416 videos available!

And the “Society for men’s freedom” is his new channel on YouTube.

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[Anonymous 3]

Thanks for intro.
I was blue pill, white knight, good guy, nice guy, understanding guy until I found myself on a Psych ward wondering what went wrong.
All that stuff does not work in todays gynocentric man hating society.
There is a war against masculinity. They want to deconstruct the masculine & then reconstruct it into pussy puppy dog simps.
And f~~~ all that Alpha male s~~~. Its just another trap.
Stick with the winners.
Stick with MGTOW

[Anonymous 0]

Good intro, TheSpice. Welcome.

My story is pretty much the same as yours, but it took me two marriages and two divorces to wise up. So you’re one up on me. 🙂

[Anonymous 54]

Welcome, The Spice!

Big John has now got his Society for Mens Freedom SMF, thing going on now, if that interests you.

[TheSpiceParticipant 2644]

Thanks, guys.

Gargamel wrote:

Welcome to MGTOW, brother.

The “ghost” of John’s old channel is here.

And the “Society for men’s freedom” is his new channel on YouTube.

Yeah, I found Big John’s archive. There are a ton of videos and I hope to watch them all. A lot of things he says resonate with me and my experiences. I didn’t know about his new channel. Do we know why the s~~~ was removed?

Anonymous wrote:

Thanks for intro.
I was blue pill, white knight, good guy, nice guy, understanding guy until I found myself on a Psych ward wondering what went wrong.

I can absolutely identify with this… as I thought I was losing my mind on many occasions. I’m glad you found your way through.

Anonymous wrote:

And f~~~ all that Alpha male s~~~. Its just another trap.

I’m sure it is, in its own way.

Anonymous wrote:

Good intro, TheSpice. Welcome.

My story is pretty much the same as yours, but it took me two marriages and two divorces to wise up. So you’re one up on me.

Under different circumstances, I might have tried again… thankfully, I didn’t.

"I've been thinking about what it would be like if we got back together."
"You know it's too late for that."

[Handsome VicParticipant 1613]

Welcome TheSpice. Liked your intro. You drank the Water of Life… and what has been seen cannot be unseen. As you say, the sleeper must awaken. We who were awakened to the schemes of the Sisterhood of Witches live lives of freedom.

I'm going my own way. Maybe I'll see you there.

[TheSpiceParticipant 2644]

Handsome Vic wrote:

Welcome TheSpice. Liked your intro. You drank the Water of Life… and what has been seen cannot be unseen. As you say, the sleeper must awaken. We who were awakened to the schemes of the Sisterhood of Witches live lives of freedom.

Haha! Exactly! It’s interesting how MGTOW-esque themes play out in certain movies (the better ones, I might add).

There is no going back to sleep. We are awake.

"I've been thinking about what it would be like if we got back together."
"You know it's too late for that."

[CombatRollParticipant 2594]

Welcome and an inspirational intro- you saw how fked up marriage is and made a quick exit, not losing your ass and you didn’t make any “sex trophies” aka snot nosed brats to be used against you in the court of law.

You’re a WINNER.

[Anonymous 0]

Welcome home, The spice
Beer’s in the fridge
Looking forward to your posts

[TheSpiceParticipant 2644]

CombatRoll wrote:

Welcome and an inspirational intro- you saw how fked up marriage is and made a quick exit, not losing your ass and you didn’t make any “sex trophies” aka snot nosed brats to be used against you in the court of law.

You’re a WINNER.

I sure didn’t feel like a winner at the time, but based on a lot of stories I’m reading here, I made out pretty damn well. This was also many years ago, so things weren’t QUITE as bad as today.

"I've been thinking about what it would be like if we got back together."
"You know it's too late for that."

[The Manipulated ManParticipant 1856]

Hello TS,

TheSpice wrote:

….I’m not going to lie… I spent a lot of my life as a blue pill mangina… trying to please women… trying to be the “nice guy”… trying to be the “understanding” guy…

Most of us who have spent time in Blue Pill Hell have done shameful things, myself included.

There is no point in dwelling on the past as a Blue Pill Slave. Now it is time to move on as a free man.

TheSpice wrote:

…I’m not sure what’s expected in these intros…..

So far, your Introduction has sent up some Red Flags.

Yes, your Red pill description is good and you have definitely learned some valuable lessons.

I wish I had NEVER went the Chad/ Alpha route after my divorce. What a waste of my time and youth!

That being said, and with all due respect, you have not written anything about what your life looks like on the MGTOW Road or your life when you are NOT dealing with women.

Here is a link that mansplains what to add to your Introduction. And ignore the Trolls:

/forums/topic/troll-troubles/

What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?

[TheSpiceParticipant 2644]

The Manipulated Man wrote:

That being said, and with all due respect, you have not written anything about what your life looks like on the MGTOW Road or your life when you are NOT dealing with women.

I’m a Database Admin who loves his job. My strengths have always revolved around math and coding. I spend all day putting out whatever metaphorical fires we have at work. Our IT department is small, so I get to learn all kinds of systems. The guys I work with are generally upstanding, competent, and fun to be around. I love learning new things, and with my job, it’s nearly every day.

Outside of work, I spend my time playing poker, video games, researching investment strategies, and watching TV. I’m sure it sounds boring to a lot of people, but I like it. I’m very minimalist. I rent a single bedroom from a friend of mine in his townhouse because it’s all I really need and it’s cheap. It allows me to save tons of money to invest every month.

Eventually, I want to be free of working entirely and living off of my investments. I haven’t figured out where I want to be living at that point, but I’m imagining it won’t be in the city anymore. I’m hoping I can get some ideas here on that.

"I've been thinking about what it would be like if we got back together."
"You know it's too late for that."

[MACHOParticipant]

Welcome TheSpice, Enjoy the forums. .

TheSpice wrote:

Bah… I’ve tried to make it work with women since, but just end up beating my head against the wall. What happened to the woman who loves her man no matter what? Through thick and thin. For better or worse.

Women these days seem to be only about “girl power”. They hate men (except for our dicks and money) and can’t seem to figure out why guys like me say “f~~~ it, I’m done.”

Women have been corrupted. Lust for power, Lust for sex and money! Yes it’s more and more about girl power. You nailed it! Welcome to Mgtow.com

TheSpice wrote:

I’m not sure what’s expected in these intros,

Thank you for the Great intro!

You must own a better Crystal ball than I

[The Manipulated ManParticipant 1856]

TheSpice wrote:

I spend my time ….., video games…

My youngest brother just got me hooked on World of Tanks.

About fifteen years ago, my son and I use to go to our University computer center and play Starcraft with the guys in the lab.

TheSpice wrote:

…..I spend my time ……., and watching TV….

What is with the avalanche of “Poz” in all of these movies these days?

I have been putting my blinders on for Science Fiction, but now it is almost impossible.

Thankfully, Dune is still good to read and watch.

Perhaps my BS meter has gotten too sensitive.

Here is a link to a Post which attempts to discuss how Red Pills effect the enjoyment of Science Fiction Books:

/forums/topic/david-webers-honor-harrington-sci-fi-series-and-mgtow/

What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?

[NoMoreParticipant 1233]

Welcome home brother! No beer in the fridge, but I have rum.

A co-worker recently told me, "If you want to see who someone really is, divorce them." I have found out how true this is. When your wife drops the façade of being the caring partner, you will witness all of the greed, hate, and spite that she has masked. It is truly breathtaking!

[TheSpiceParticipant 2644]

The Manipulated Man wrote:

About fifteen years ago, my son and I use to go to our University computer center and play Starcraft with the guys in the lab.

I had a couple of friends really hooked on that game back in the day. Back then my obsession was Age of Empires (II, I think). There were 3 of us that would play that s~~~ almost every night. Good times!

The Manipulated Man wrote:

What is with the avalanche of “Poz” in all of these movies these days?

I have been putting my blinders on for Science Fiction, but now it is almost impossible.

Thankfully, Dune is still good to read and watch.

Perhaps my BS meter has gotten too sensitive.

What is meant by “Poz”?

I think I get your meaning based on context if you mean just lots of vagina everywhere. I have to admit that as I take more red pills, I’m finding myself turning off shows I used to kind of like when I see the subtle (or sometimes not so subtle) messaging in them. It has become suddenly so crystal clear after finding MGTOW. There are still some good ones out there, but you have to be picky. I never liked the Rom-Com’s and I think it’s because I knew from the beginning how bogus they were. Sci-Fi is a mixed bag. The older shows are generally good. It might be interesting to put together a rating system here for TV and movies. I’m definitely more sensitive to female propaganda in these shows and movies than I used to be. I’m kind of afraid to look back through my catalog of s~~~ and see what stuff I really enjoyed turn out to be brainwashing crap.

When I was young, I thought women belonged on a pedestal. After my divorce, I wanted to believe NAWALT. After my last several “romances” (where I loved them and they loved money, a place to live, free gifts, etc.) it is clear that AWALT. The last one I was incredibly picky and even she turned out to be… just like the rest in the places it counts. She was good at masking her true colors, but they eventually wore through her skin.

NoMore wrote:

Welcome home brother! No beer in the fridge, but I have rum.

Thanks! Rum works!

"I've been thinking about what it would be like if we got back together."
"You know it's too late for that."

[Anonymous 1]

Welcome. I don’t think anything’s expected in an intro – your’s certainly hits the spot.

I’m not going to lie… I spent a lot of my life as a blue pill mangina… trying to please women… trying to be the “nice guy”… trying to be the “understanding” guy… After watching a great video on this site “On Alpha Males” I get why I was frustrated and why the women I was attracting were straying. I’m not an alpha, nor do I give a s~~~ about becoming one. I just want to live my damn life my way… it looks like it will be without a woman.

I, and many others here I think, can identify with almost all of this.

The last sentence pretty much sums it up for me, too.

[Jack HarperParticipant 2863]

Welcome. Speaking of Dune remember:

I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.

[TheSpiceParticipant 2644]

Jack Harper wrote:

Welcome. Speaking of Dune remember:

I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.

And also…

He who controls the Spice… controls the Universe!

"I've been thinking about what it would be like if we got back together."
"You know it's too late for that."

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