Hello from Western Australia

[logicalmayhemParticipant 15]

Welcome brother!
/Brohug
Great to see that you have found the truth, im sorry to hear that it took you so long.

I have been heavily into the youtube community for a while now, if your looking for anything particular or have any questions hit me up 🙂

[Dirtydog73Participant 232]

Hi All,,Update to the current situation.

So ,after being called a loony by her and most of her friends(drinking buddies) ,I have decided on a few things.
She has been definitely rooting around with this 28 year old f~~~boy ,and plenty of sexting going on also.
I got the phone off her that I provided for her,she now has her own ,and the silly cow forgot to wipe it didn’t she. Wonderful stuff in there . I was almost back to taking the blue pill ,where she has had everyone convinced that she hasn’t been doing the things I’ve accused her of,yet secret hotel bookings,lots of sexting memes,pics of her with this guy ,her sending selfies blowing him kisses ,that sort of s~~~.
I have taken the car from her that I was paying for ,she can sort out her own transport ,or her new bloke can run her around everywhere……good luck with that.
She has gone to the courthouse and raised a Violence restraining order against me,but it is yet to be filed.I have, or had, a mancve for me and my boys that had our playstations all setup ,and i have been collecting viking axes and swords etc over a period of time.Apparently shes in danger because of these “weapons”I have an axe out the back that I chop wood with as well,does that make me dangerous also?
I have spent the night going through all the paperwork ,separating into hers and mine ,and dumping all hers in the bedroom she is using.As well as all the girly s~~~ she has had around over the years.
Real estate agent is on the way at 9am to value the house.I have told her she can either buy me out to get rid of me,or I will just hang around doing nothing until the house is in default and possibly look at claiming bankruptcy.It looks to be the only real course ,unless we sell the house,but then I still have the two cars to pay for.As stated above,she is a grown ass woman who can sort her own s~~~ out.I dont care anymore.In fact that was the response i got when I asked her what it would be like if the roles were reversed,If I was an alcoholic who was sponging off her and going out and partying every weekend with my drinking buddies, who I have found are at least 15 years younger than her,hence the 29 year old f~~~boy (who i really want to cut his fingers off but i know I cant)I really hope he drops her like a hot potato when he doesn’t like the “relationship”side of things instead of sexual trysts with a woman 15 years his senior.I would laugh my arse off if she got pregnant !!!!My oldest son who is twenty ,is contemplating moving to Perth ,but he still has to finish his apprenticeship.I told her f~~~boy that he will have to look after her and my son and provide for them both as I will be moving on soon.,(I sure he can handle it)
Red pill is definitely being swallowed,I am packing up my stuff,and will be asking my folks if I can store some stuff at their house for a bit ,or maybe getting a small storage unit.The more I can sell off the better.I have my ute which i paid cash for,and will keep up on my Harley payments as best as possible for now.If I leave with just my ute and my dignity ,well so be it.
She can have half the stuff,I will just sell my half .And she doesn’t get any of my super,we weren’t married,only defacto for 21 years,so she gets bugger all of that.Nice little nest egg for me ,and she has nothing in her super.There is a thing her called spousal support,but she needs to prove she cant work for me to have to pay it to her,but there is no jail here for not paying that kind of support.I would just flat out refuse and provide for my sons whatever they need the best I can.
All services are being shut down that are in my name as much as possible.I have locked her out of my computer,closed down the email inbox I was paying for ,and she has now got to use a pre paid phone which she cant afford as she has no money coming in.Shes trying hard to get a job ,but for me its too little too late ,and no coming back from the direction I am heading.
Have a great Saturday all.See you on the flipside.

Fed, Fucked, Appreciated. The three simple things men want, but women will never grasp.

[Anonymous 3]

That is what a MAN does: the hard stuff that is necessary.

When men do it they have a good reasons (unlike women that only consider how they feel).

It is hard, because we actually have feelings (unlike women, that feel only for themselves).

And we do only the necessary (unlike women that want to crush a guy when they leave).

I wish you strength and I hope you find peace in the end of this process (unlike women that love drama and conflict).

[ByronParticipant 465]

Hey Dirtydog73, nice to see an update on the situation. Although it’s my first comment here, I’ve been following the the thread closely since the beginning.

The nerve she has to try to play it all innocent.. but that’s a standard woman for you – AWALT. Women are much better liars than men, it’s a trait they HAD to evolve. Evolutionary speaking, lying is something they had to rely on for their survival since the beginning of time. Lying properly was a question of life or death for them since they lack other viable survival tools. All they had was manipulation. Even back then, it was a fairly decent evolutionary weapon but it has grown in power compared to ours in the modernized world.

Reswallowing the blue pill will be a costly mistake, try to remember that when you feel “this time will be different”, or “maybe it was my fault”. All relationships go sour eventually, hardly any known exceptions. It’s not your fault (except for not predicting it), it is just how things are. Try to clear your mind and swallow the whole bitter truth of how things work. It is better to see things clearly than to be affected by cloudy judgement leading to costly mistakes.

Keep us updated on this. I’m fairly certain everything will go your way from now on.

[Dirtydog73Participant 232]

More on the situation.
So ,she went out on Friday night with the “girls”. I allowed her the use of the car,because she said she was going to see her girlfriends,mistake on my part there.More lies .
I found out where she was across town through a little legwork ,and took the car back.As it was,she was with the girls but also with her f~~~boy as well,getting drunk again.
Saturday came and no word or anything from her,which was to be expected.
I finally found out where her f~~~boys house was.I packed bag with some stuff for her and went around there to drop it off,telling her to not come back, she was not welcome there anymore.Her f~~~boy hid inside while she played the hard nosed bitch. He Wouldn’t even come out and talk to me.She carried on that half the house was hers,which I stated ,yes,it is on paper but you are no longer welcome there.
I made the decision to get her out of my life and the house completely then and there,and told her i would be back in about an hour with all her s~~~.
My son helped me pack the car with all her clothes,girl products from the bathroom , perfumes,handbags ,shoes etc ,as much as we could fit in boxes that I had and then took it to the house.She has really hit a winner with this one.i could understand if she left me for a decent guy ,maybe around her age,who had a decent house and job ,could provide for her and somewhere nice to live.Well, he rents a small unit ,under the front deck of a house ,that is rented by some friends. What a s~~~hole. If he makes her happy ,then so be it.(i am reckoning about 6-12 months until its done-I May be wrong and they may have a long , happy relationship together.For her sake ,I hope they do)
I reversed up the driveway to his unit ,and started dumping all the stuff in the driveway.She came out and started trying to put in back in the car,saying how ridiculous it was . I kept dumping it out.She said she didn’t want it all and to dump it down the road,she didn’t care about it.I dumped as much as I could ,.She jumped in my car and tried to grab a baseball bat I had in there in case things got ugly ,which i took of her and then dragged her out of my car.I got in and went to leave,she reached in and tied to rip the keys out of the ignition.She grabbed a heap of keys I had for other things,which I managed to grab her and get back of her,She is only 45 kilos due to me paying for her gastric sleeve operation a few years ago so she could lose a heap of weight after the kids were born and she could not get rid of.After several attempts at her trying to get the ignition key ,her f~~~boy and his mate eventually came outside and tried to calm her down.I got the car going with all my keys and took off.He is welcome to the c*%t of a thing and all her drama and alcoholism.
So in the end,she has no car,no job ,I have pretty much kicked her out ,albeit her name is on the deed so I will have to let her in at some point ,but she is not welcome to stay here. I am now a MGTOW with my boys.

First step is downsizing some stuff around here.Looking at selling some stuff off.I have been told by her mum that half the stuff is hers,to which I replied,yes ,but whatever I sell , her half of the money will be used to make the house payment and half the utility bills that she was part of when she was here, unless she comes up with it in another fashion ,which i highly doubt.
So ,next step is to start sorting the house to be put on the market.House valuation came in good,which will cover what we owe on it ,plus some left over.It will take a while to sort out and get sold ,but it is something i have to do.Having two dogs will be a problem ,finding a rental which will allow me to have them.A lot of work to be done regarding this.20+ years of accumulating stuff and furniture etc,and I will have to minimise the best I can.A massive shed full of tools and other stuff to sort out. Garage sale I am thinking ,to start getting rid of things that are tying me to this place and holding me back.If a decent job comes my way ,I may be able to hold out long enough ,with a bit of juggling here and there,on getting money coming in ,getting this place sorted and sold ,and be able to possibly get a new loan in my own name for a smaller place somewhere nearby that will allow me to provide stability for my boys until they are off doing their own thing..All my own then and I can go wherever I want.
Today will be to finish packing the rest of her stuff to drop off at f~~~boys place.She can decide what she wants to do with it from there,its not my problem. Enjoy your Sunday all.

Fed, Fucked, Appreciated. The three simple things men want, but women will never grasp.

[Enjoy The DeclineParticipant 1719]

I guess your way of fixing your problem with your woman is one way of fixing your problem. I think I learned a lot on how to deal with females in your situation with just your story in this thread alone. I realize that in life, there is no reason to be politically correct anymore with the type of world that we live in, especially with the type of female you are/were with at least.

"Question everything" - Albert Einstein

[PhilbyParticipant 26]

I was reading this saga yesterday. Any updates?
I know what you mean, seems we have to appreciate every little thing they do for us, but us slaving our life away for them is expected / a privilege.
Taking a Long-Term view on most Relationships seems to make them a Bad idea, from what i can tell.
Seems most the things i dislike about life become more pronounced / become a larger problem & a bunch of the things i like become scarcer / a rarity or prohibited.

[Dirtydog73Participant 232]

Update.
She has had some discussions with our sons, about them moving into a house with her,she wont tell me anything ,no matter what I ask.She wants our 14 year old to live with her so she gets single parent pension.$750 a fortnight it pays here in West Oz.It would pay the rent on a house for her anyway.It goes down the more money you earn.She has told our kids she is looking for a rental in the same suburb as my youngest doesn’t want to change schools .I dont like her chances.She said she wanted to be the mom and also look after our two big dogs.i told her good luck trying to find a rental that will allow you to have the 2 dogs ,especially since they are inside dog .I have applied for the single parent pension myself ,and also Child support from her.I am not working yet she is so she can take a turn to pay for once.That was a major part of the bulls~~~,I asked her to get a job and help out .
She has found herself a job thanks to her mother helping her out.She is living across the road at her mums place at the moment.between There and her f~~~boys house.My son is concerned that if he has to live with her that her alco boyfriend will be there and it will turn into a s~~~ setting for him with drinking etc all weekend going on ,or that his mum will disappear all weekend like she used to ,drinking and carrying on..It concerns me greatly also.
I have made a start going through the house and packing up all the s~~~ that i dont want that she can have.I want it gone .Also asked her for a list of what furniture she wants.
Also started cleaning out the shed .Did a dump run with a heap of stuff that I no longer require.
In my shed is a 1958 FC Holden that belongs to her mum that I was in the process of restoring for her.I have pretty much packed up the entire thing (its in a s~~~load of pieces) and told her mum to sort out getting it out of here.I dont care any more.Its not my problem.Just get it gone asap.
The ex came back and asked me for money the other day.I did offer a couple of nights before,but she said No ,it would be just something I would hold against her.I threw that back at her and told her No,you had your opportunity and didn’t want it, so no second chance there.
Her name is on the trailer rego ,so all the stuff she has packed in boxes and been sitting in the spare room,I have spent the day putting in the trailer out the front for her to take away.Maybe her alco f~~~boy will come around and hook up the trailer and take it away.I highly doubt it. Its p~~~ing down with rain ,so I made a half arsed attempt at covering it with a tarp.I honestly dont care . She has the time to go out drinking all weekend with her friends,then she has the time to pack up her s~~~ and cart it away.Especially since she only needs to take it across the road to her mums.
Although her name is on the deed, she has made no attempt to make any payment towards the mortgage at all.i have asked her twice via text ,and screen shotted to keep for a later date if required.No answer from either texts.
So ,my plan is to get a new job asap.I have had a discussion with my sons about what it means if I get a new job where I am working away again.My 20 year old can stay here OK ,but my 14 year old ,I dont know.I dont want the bitch here in the house.My concern there is that her f~~~boy will be here while I am at work.Something that would end in a lot of blood loss if that were to happen.
Anyway ,kitchen is scrubbed,half the house is packed in boxes and in the trailer or the carport,kids and dogs fed,all the sheets on the beds have been washed,dogs are content ,fire is going.There is only so much cleaning you can do to keep busy.
I only need to hold out for a couple of years at the most, then the boys will be MGTOW themselves.One to Perth a he has said ,and the youngest wants to join the military..Taking one day at a time,going hard looking for a job,and keeping my boys sorted for school and work and a stable household.
Thanks for reading

Fed, Fucked, Appreciated. The three simple things men want, but women will never grasp.

[PhilbyParticipant 26]

Cheers for keeping us updated. Some light at the end of the Tunnel, yeah. Be able to get some peace & quiet in a couple of years 🙂
I’ve got 7 Brothers & 1 Sister, grew up in a fairly male dominated environment. Involved quite a lot of change for those who got married, 4 of my elder Brothers have been through a divorce, they generally seem to be quite messy, especially with kids involved & expensive.
Relationships look to be hard work if they last & a costly mistake if they don’t. Thinking i’ll pass. Those who have been through it mind you are either with another woman now (3) or looking around for one (1) Slow Learners? 🙂 Never say Never, they reckon.

[Dirtydog73Participant 232]

Morning Philby.
Your brothers divorces really do add to the fact that 50% or more of relations~~~s end in divorce and more.
The hard part for me is knowing that she is out there f~~~ing her loser f~~~boy. I keep telling myself its the only thing she has ,her snatch to get what it is she wants.She has hit the wall as I know,needs fair bit of makeup , push up bra otherwise they are just saggy husks of former glory,saggy skin after losing a lot of weight.S~~~ty skin from smoking and alcohol abuse.
I can understand she is chasing her happiness elsewhere. It makes me feel bad thinking that when you are with a women for so long ,and the amount of $$$ i have earned and provided over the past 20 years for her upkeep , and the family ,only to have her throw me aside for someone who is in a worse position than I am. I am in debt I know,but I can work through it to get to a better financial position.I am fighting to give her as least as possible.
Telling myself everyday that I am responsible for my happiness, yet its so easy for a woman to just throw you aside and head out to ride whatever c~~~ she wants. No wonder men look at self harm etc …the gut wrenching feeling that it seems that you are no longer good enough for them.I get she is chasing her own happiness,and it is something she needs to do for herself,but at the expense of everything I have worked hard to build for our family ,and it is all coming crashing down.
Faults on my behalf for not getting her off her lazy drunken arse sooner to get a proper career going.
She is fully responsible for her s~~~ty decisions though that has led us to this point.So f~~~ her.

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