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Good day, pals!
I was born it Soviet Union, the most feminized country of the past, I’ll write about it if anyone would want to here, so my English isn’t my mother language.
That’s why, plase, don’t hestate to mock my when I write something wrong. I’ll be grateful.
But what I was going to write two things and both of them aren’t an introduction about me directly.
FirstL I was reading mgtow quite for a while and have thought: well, well, well. That’s interesting. Maybe I can find some interesting stuff to translate into russian and vica versa.
The more I read, the WTF I became!
The is in NO reason to translate anything.
tldr: Same s~~~ exactly!
And the second moment, I really want to discuss is the “starting point” or “point of view”.
I try to explain, but I think it needs an article level of description.
Whenever I read something about the place or fate of a men in nowadays world, all these stories, marriages, divorces, dating, living, “losers”.
There is one in common: they a female oriented.
The point of view stays on women, even if we discuss men. Like, women is bad for man here, this sucks up there.
Okay! That’s very important “first aid” stuff, like never marry (Come on, there are a lot of people who cant’ into difference between etc).But the idea of mgtow is great. It centers on men and our needs.
Anonymous42Hey Ivan, your English doesn’t matter here Tovarage! we’ll read and interpret (understand) your words.
You’re very valuable here, your insight on Soviet Union failures, and our failures and how we are similar. Don’t worry about writing, you’ll learn it as you go along. Welcome to MGTOW my RED brother!
Hi!
Well, I am not RED at all, I assure you. Quite an opposite, to tell the truth.
Also, my name is Konstantin, sorry for not mentioning it before.Frankly, speaking about MG stuff, we are 120% in he same boat, I assure you.
Maybe I can be useful to community and bring some information to both sides.
To our Mgtow for your and back, unlike I stated in post upward.The situation is damn same, but valuable information and experience are priceless!
Anonymous0Hi Master Cat,
welcome. No need to tell us your real name, go on with your Nickname, that’s what they are for. Also, no excuses necessary here, we are all men, talking free and true. Because of this fact there will be no affronts against each other, just plain talking.
I am Germany based, so english is also not my native tongue, you see you are not alone, but we are the minority in this case. Hope we will have more guys from this continent here in the future.
MG-Tower is one of the Power MGTOW’s here, so with the “Ivan” he joked a little bit, and the RED has a double meaning, can be seen as RED and/or Red -Pillar, hope the last is your thing. Hehe…I like MG-Tower and his posts.
CHEERS!!!!
@ MG-Tower
My name is neither Karl nor Hans…HAHAHAHA.
Hello again, this is the translation of small article of Dmitrii Seleznev “ВАМ НЕ ПОВЕЗЛО С ЖЕНЩИНОЙ”.
This is one NAWALT variants.
Every editorial help is highly appreciated! I left my notes in text, marked (NOTE:).
I translated it as “You failed to meet right woman.” (NOTE: word to word translation: You were out of luck with (to get proper) woman), but maybe we can find better variant. Because I am sure, there is a variant for this in US!
“You failed to meet right woman.”
Have you ever heard this phrase from a woman? Sure you are, not even once. I have wanted to explore this typical woe-mans’ phrase, and uncover the true sources of it:
Source one: Woman has NOTHING to argue IN ESSENCE, so her fists aspiration is to change a topic of discussion. It is the basic rule of demagogy. For sure woman wouldn’t be able to explain – How does imaginable “fail” of a man is related to, for example, to notorious discrimination of men in Russia (NOTE: for US variant we can delete in Russia, because it is our common problem, lol).
Source two: Woman didn’t like what she heard, and she want to humiliate you (‘failed’ = ‘loser’).
The humiliation of opponent is as victory by score (NOTE: word to word translation: moral victory) and means her rightness in dispute, in women’s understanding.
Source three: Woman ALWAYS tries to hook opponent emotionally and provoke him to lose temper. You have to blush, sweat, forget your arguments, the topic of a dispute and prove that dogs don’t climb trees. These women are used to talk with ATM doormats (NOTE: I choose this word. It is a bit complicate topic, but in Russia we have men who live as wife’s servant and LOVE it! They have special slang word, that needs explanation, if you bother.) for whom the fact of having a woman nearby is the status indicator.
Source four: Woman is allegedly the top prize for a man, his utmost stroke of luck ever. She is The Achievement and living beacon of happiness for him. It means that man may win or lose getting a woman. It is classical woe-mans’ vaginacentrism. Woman can’t even imagine that for sane man her place is on the back burner.
Source five: This phrase is so frequently used and stereotyped by modern women, so it indirectly lampshades that literally quite a few ‘win’ at all.
It followed by the imaginary idea that man doesn’t control his fate. He is submitted to destiny and his “win or lose” is on Fortune or based on a will of women, who decides to make him ‘fortunate’ or ‘unfortunate’.
Source six: Allegedly, the man’s life goals, ideas, mood and whole life are tied to women. The lacks of a woman (the one you ostensibly have unluckily ‘failed’ to get nice one) have to make you miserable. It is gonna turn your inner self upside-down, make you to “hate all women”.
“Hate all women” is rather distinctive phrase, usually used with “you failed…”.
Women think that quarrel with a chick can really hurt men’s sagacity and disturb his objective perception of the world. They REALLY believe in this, judging on their own.
Source seven: Please note, it is usually said ‘You fail with a womAn’, not ‘You fail with womEn’. Chicks unostentatiously hint you that man may have only ONE woman, the one he married to, read: she has a governmental license to plunder him. Man has to devote his whole life, waste all energy and money to “The his Only One Precious Cupcake”.
hi! Hollowmile!
Oh my. I didn’t get a joke about red at first.
OMG, my sides. That’s hilarious of me!
Anonymous42dogs don’t climb trees.
Hey Master Cat “RED PILL” or just MCat, I agree with you except; I had a poodle that climbed a tree (sapling) to retrieve a ball, the only bitch I ever really liked!
They go higher for a CAT!
What? weren’t ussr supposed to be bad ass country? never seen any feminized of it (maybe propaganda).
Or maybe Russia today is the feminized one?
Welcome. I am Ukrainian, my great grandparents came off the boat. I also lived with the Ukrainians and some guys who came from the USSR.
The only verbal Ukrainian words I know are how to say are swear words and “thank you”. I was told by a man from the old USSR, that those are the only words I would need to know if I worked in the “fields”.
With that being said, Russia had feminism back in the early 1900s if I am correct. You had it close for a hundred years at least. If I am correct it was instilled to help break down the power of the Tzars and replace their power with that of the communists. Feminism was about changing the political order.
Hi, John Doe! Your grandparents did the great job leaving this place, I assure you. 😉
But back to your and Blushire question.
Well. It wasn’t named feminism, of course. but if you read the basics of soviet ideas and the basis of USSR, then you will be surprised to find out that ideas of women emancipation, equality were one of the cornerstones of socialistic state.
This great, not BS, idea slowly transformer into stuff we have nowdays.
Welcome Master Cat glad to have you on board. I am from the U.S. but I am really grateful to be able to associate with so many people from all over the world, and to be able to learn from them. As you may know the U.S. media does not really provide any information to U.S. citizens which is why so many of us look to media sources from outside the U.S. so any insight you have is extremely valuable.
Willfully turning aside from the truth is treason to one's self. -Terry Goodkind
Welcome Master Cat, I am from Australia (in case my nickname didn’t already give it away), It’s great to be able to get another country’s perspective on feminism and the damage it has caused across the globe.
The more time I spend on this site the more (and less) astonished I am at the pervasiveness of vile female attitudes to men.
I look forward to your contributions.
The harder the fight the sweeter the victory
Anonymous5Hi Master Cat, it’s terrific to have you here. I’ll definitely be following anything you have to say
The arguing tactics women have used on us all our lives were never realised till we saw YouTube clips by Bill Burr etc, and read MGTOW articles like the one you’ve translated. As you’ve shown, they’re universal, simple and devastatingly effective.
There’s still a large number of blue-pill MGTOWs who think it’s just “Western Women”
It’s ironic that one of the most devastating tactics used on western men was made mainstream by Russian women on guys who were trying to avoid western women.
The scam is, Russian women play the idealistic angel NAWALT.
As soon as they arrive they get informed by other Russian Women Help, Assistance committees and groups.
They get informed of every single gender biased loophole in the system (while still acting out as the “Angel NAWALT”)As soon as they have legal partnership/ownership and official residence status, they call the cops, and make allegations of domestic abuse.
The guy finds himself locked out of his own house with not a shred of evidence of any type.
He’s instantly homeless and it’s all downhill from there with him having someone in his house with no written residency agreement.
It’s a legal nightmare to get her out, while all the time he’s still liable for the rent or mortgage because his names on the lease or title.
Furthermore, she’s also got the usual partnership laws if she’s been clever enough to wait it out long enough, and she’s nailed him firmly to a cross if she’s managed to have kids.
Google any site or article regarding getting a foreign bride and you’ll find the practice is extremely common, played out countless times, and still played out now.
This scam was around before they arrived, but it was Russian women who made it famous.Thank you for your insight and perspective,
and your quote says it all when you referred to men’s desire to treat women fairly:“This great, not BS, idea slowly transformer into stuff we have nowdays.”
2Lazarus Long. You right, I have buddies all over the world, we exchange news from time to time a laugh about official propaganda. Well. it is a bitter laugh, usually.
2MG-Tower You see. There was idiom in original that shouldn’t be translated word to word. I have to select from “dogs don’t climb, rain isn’t dry, 2+2 != 5” etc. I have ended with dogs idiom, but okay, I’ll change it.
Also, I mentioned, the more I learn, the more I understand we aren’t in a look a like situation. It a damn mirror.
So, I really want to learn idioms to make my translations better.
So, what’s the difference between mangina, White Knight or Blue pill guy? Of course, I have my thought, but want to be sure.20rdinaryguy heh. I have seen a lot comments like “OMG! WTF? Cupcake turned into wicked witch in a moment she gets a ring!”. The poor block doesn’t get it, there was no cupcake, but wicked witch in disguise all the time.
We name this stuff “Demo-version”. It is nowadays maxima, you meet your soulmate, true buddy in woman form? It is a “Demo-Version”. Trial is gonna end when you sign demonic pact or when the she gets, you aren’t going to do it. The change is always abrupt and frustrating for anyone who doesn’t know the drill.And about infamous “russian brides”. You can’t imagine the bloody tripple facepalm we, red-pilled guys, have when see happy US or European guy taking a “Demo-Version X3 Multiplier US edition” hag in disguise with him. It is like “Fuuuuu…. Whyyy!!!!??? No! pal, wait.. ohhhh.. Shiiii.”!
There are a lot of forums when women share “wisdom”of fraudulent activity, the ways to evict a husband and get halve or assets + extra or how to make to die
and get all.
It is wise to have such collection for pill seeking guys. Very refreshing, I assure you.2AussieBloke Great. I’ll try to exchange knowledge both ways.
If you don’t mind I’ll translate or write some more stuff. As i mentioned, any editorial help is highly appreciated.здравствуйте Master Cat.
That’s the extent of my Russian but I pronounce it perfectly.
My 8th grade teacher taught me how to say “hello” in Russian, and he said to say: “Does your ass fit ya” really fast.
“zdravstvuyte”
I never forgot it. But even still, your English is still better than my Russian. Thank you for making an excellent intro and welcome to MGTOW.
About people (and women) describing unmarried men as “losers”. Let’s translate “loser” from woman speak into Man-glish. “Loser” in woman-speak simply means a man who is smart enough to do things that are in HIS best interest.
• You don’t spend your hard-earned money on women – you are a loser
• You expect regular sex – you are a loser
• You are not interested in marriage – you are a loser
• You don’t want to be stuck with kids – you are a loser
• You don’t want to slave away 60 hours a week so a woman can buy a new SUV every year – you are a loser
• You prefer South American women who treat you better – you are a HUUGE LOOOSERThe alternative to “loser” is a pussyfied man, or simply a pussy. A pussyfied man does what a woman wants – he is a docile schmuck who slaves away at work, never questions anything, quietly pays for everything, and does not pester her for sex. In other words, he is the “ideal husband”.
As real men… we a PROUD when women call us “losers”.
You should be too.” Loser ” в женщину- говорить просто означает человека, который является достаточно умны, чтобы делать то, что в его интересах .
• Вы не тратите свои с трудом заработанные деньги на женщин – вынеудачник
• Вы ожидаете регулярный секс – вынеудачник
• Вы не заинтересованы в браке – вынеудачник
• Вы не хотите быть застрял с детьми – вынеудачник
• Вы не хотите , чтобы в поте лица 60 часав неделю , такженщина может купить новый внедорожник с каждым годом – вынеудачник
• Вы предпочитаете южноамериканских женщин , которые лечат вас лучше – выHUUGE LOOOSERАльтернативой «неудачником» являетсяpussyfied человек , или простокиска . Pussyfied человек делает то, чтохочет женщина – он непослушный чмо , кто рабы на работе , никогда не ставит под сомнение ничего , спокойно платит за все , и не приставать к ней для секса. Другими словами , он” идеальный муж ” .
Как настоящих мужчин … мыгорды, когда женщины называют нас ” проигравших” .
Вы должны быть тоже.If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.“Does your ass fit ya”.
My sides violated stratosphere! Oh, you, duuuuude! Don’t do it anymore! 😀2RoyDal. Wait a sec. I am working on really great article from the same author. Exactly about “loser list”.
As I promised, another article of the same author D. Seleznev.
I am not a prof in translation, so any help in translation from Engrish to English would be helpful!Women Fairy-tales: tale of a loser
Women’s understanding about “how everything should be” is straightforward and frustratingly simple.
The road to happiness, according to relationship with a man, is visualized by a woman in inexorable step-by-step progression:
Acquaintance followed by gallant courting from a man => woman agreement for “relationship” => roses and candy stage => ‘relationship’ and trial stage => marriage => childbirth => home joys.
We will omit in this article the grief end of 4 of every 5 marriages that consists of divorce, robbing man’s assets, taking away children and alimonies.
We want to see the women’s understanding of happiness in “man-woman” relationship.‘Loser’ or ‘Unhappy man’ is an every men, who stays ‘out of a box’ of women’s understanding about men’s happiness.
And the happiness of men, as it understood by women, consists of:
1. The cornerstone of man’s happiness is a “one, only and forever” beloved woman near a man. (However, it is quite an opposite nowadays. It is not a woman near men, but a man as an “appendix” and lackey for a woman)
“One, only and foreverness” should be fixed-solid in state Marriage Bureau. Remarkable place! A man who gets “marriage record” (NOTE: the name of paper about marriage) there should also be given a “Diploma of Retard”.2. The main purpose of men existence, the mark of his manhood, the fact he has ‘manned up’ is serving to so named ‘family interests’. Please mind that not his own, but ‘family’, read serving the needs and fulfilling the wish lists of woman and their offspring, whom he has zero rights for.
3. Man’s interests, hobbies, dreams, friends, ambitions, creative aspirations are insignificant minor stuff, unrelated to his happiness at all.
4. Men must have high income or have an aspiration to have high income. All his income he has to be spent on ‘family needs’.
The fact that man rejects the ‘happiness program’ listed above and has his own vision about his happiness is very dangerous to women’s interests.
The most effective way to prevent men’s “dissidence” and “freethinking” is to maligning the disadvantageous behaving of a men or system of values. Also, it is not only the maligning, but also developing complexes (NOTE: mb cranks) in men’s psychics’, so they are to be afraid of women’s mockery and “loser” stigma.Let’s see:
“Family guy”, who toils 25 h/day at two jobs, abused by his wife every day, fulfilling her wishlist, excruciated by home scandals, pushed around by mother-in-low, bereft of company of his friends and normal rest and comfort, lives on the edge of mental breakdown etc.
This man is ‘happy’ one in women’s believes, because he serves to his mistress and “lives for family”.Guy, who was dumb enough to stuck into marriage with divorcee with children, who needs fresh new White Knight walking ATM.
He is not a looser.Unlike the confirmed bachelor, who has well established everyday life, own house, other cool assets, interesting job, 2-3 pretty ‘affairs’. He is “loser”.
Of course, he wasn’t able to find “one, only and forever” woman. The fact that she has to be looked for is not for discussion. Man can’t be happy without a family, as woman thoughts.The Man, who enthusiastically doing his lifework: building rockets, writing books, fights and wins, oeuvres, travels, programs great code, but isn’t married and don’t have a ‘cupcake’ (NOTE: mb girlfriend) . He is a ‘petty loser’. He didn’t ‘manned up’, ‘didn’t establish his identity’, in their mind.
He isn’t enchained to THE ONLY ONE woman, his assets isn’t under her control.By the way – about asset.
Women’s happiness is directly associated with hoarding assets and consumerism.
It means that woman values man basing on the size of his assets. All not rich, unsecured men are automatically marked as “losers”. “Promising men”, guy who don’t make a load of money right now, but show promises and have good chances to make skyrocket career stay in better list, but!
There is one crucial stipulation: they are “promising” only if they want to build up “serious relationships”, otherwise they are “losers”.
Every single man, who doesn’t live according to women’s interpretation of men’s happiness, is loser.
“Loserhood” stigma is given to everything that doesn’t fit small world of women’s outlook, not related to consumerism, hoarding stuff and riches or, at least, childbirth.The man who isn’t ‘tuned’ on “serious relationships” is a priory a ‘loser’, in their understanding.
The one, who doesn’t look for women’s company, doesn’t seek serious and permanent relationships, “love that develops into something greater” can’t be happy in women’s understanding.
He has no rights to be happy.It isn’t only come from danger of “other type of men’s happiness” for women.
The egocentrism of female nature doesn’t allow her even to understand and accept the idea of man’s happiness, OTHER the ‘relationship’ with one and only.And now few words about ‘and only’. Once upon a time author made a account on a dating site for pure fun. Here is the text:
“I want to find two – three girls for serious relationships”.
It was followed by immediate outraged reaction: “How can SERIOUSE relationship with two or three girls ever exist?”
Author: “and why not?”
Women: “Serious relationships can be only with one!”
Author: “but why?”
Women: (Statics and evil hissing).
So what, the one who dares to change a girl or have affair with more than one simultaneously is a “loser” too, because “he isn’t capable of love”.
Your homework: try to ask women and figure out: “Why can only one be loved?”.
The solution for the puzzle is unrelated to our traditional monogamy.
The solution is simple, relationships with many women means inability to control all man’s assets by single woman. It breaks up the paradigm of women’s happiness and because of this it has no right to exist. It should be discredited and stigmatized by different abusive world targeting man. The main one is “loser”.The tale about a “loser” wouldn’t be so successful, without active imprinting into the men’s mind from the childhood. Mother grows guilt complex and fear to inaptitude (discrepant) the image of ‘true man’, ‘manned up man’, ‘manful’.
The ‘true man’, as we remember should always be woman’s manservant or, at least, keep her wish list as his lifegoal.
Often the situation is even direr. Boy not just doesn’t have examples of masculine behavior, but has a visible “downhill” pattern: subjugated hen or the lack of the father and the demonization of his image.
The Distortion and perversion of true, masculine education, boy has to get at the family.
One of distinctive maternal reproaches with devastating “b~~~~-basting” effect: “You are just like your father!”;
The result of such education is easily predictable: millions of men living according to the women’s code of “happiness”. Men who scared to death to became ‘loser’ in women’s eyes.I call upon all men: Do not afraid to be a ‘loser’ in women’s eyes! Create, invent, fight, dream up, travel, fly into space, face the salty ocean wind – look for your Truth and do your Lifework!
World is thousand times larger, interesting and wide then primitive and materially-minded women’s stereotypes about “how you should live”.
True loser is women’s lackey who spent his whole life serving the vagina and her narrow-minded consumeristical wish lists.
True loser is one who doesn’t live by his own mind and will, who foreign his god-given destiny: Creativity, Search and Transformation of the world;I call upon all men: Do not afraid to be a ‘loser’ in women’s eyes! Create, invent, fight, dream up, travel, fly into space, face the salty ocean wind – look for your Truth and do your Lifework!
Now there is a clarion call to all men if EVER I heard it. well done.
The harder the fight the sweeter the victory
Anonymous42There are a lot of forums when women share “wisdom”of fraudulent activity, the ways to evict a husband and get halve or assets + extra or how to make to die and get all.
Hey Master Cat, Well DONE! I hate to tell children (boys) to beware of women’s tactics. Today’s little girls, (#3 wave of feminism) are little monsters that need spanking (discipline) they’re so self-centered they think the world and universe revolves around them. The boys are trained by the single mother to serve women and surrender free thinking, free will, to become woman’s SLAVE.
mother-in-low,
It’s mother in LAW, (entered into law)
He didn’t ‘manned up’,
“man-up” 1 single man, English is very contradictory or other way “He manned UP!”
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