Hello from Canada!

[Anonymous 0]

Good day folks,

I signed up on this site a few months ago and this is my first post. The first time I heard about MGTOW was on YouTube. I was frustrated at my girlfriend and it led me to watching videos on YouTube, which led me to MGTOW and that’s how I started my research into MGTOW, marital law, divorce statistics, family courts, etc.

During my daily commute to work, I peruse these forums and try to harness all the energy I can find here. It keeps me focused on my life’s goals and keeps me from making costly mistakes. What I have learned about myself is that I’ll never marry, never have kids, will get snipped and will never cohabitate. The red pill approach takes care of never having to pay alimony and child support.

Ever since I started reading these forums on this site, I feel like I’m home. I’ve finally found a group of men I can relate to.

Here’s what I have going for me — I’m a single, 32 years, average looking, work for Capital Markets, decent income, own my house, invest in appreciating assets and do not have any depreciating liabilities. In addition to working full-time, I take part-time courses whenever I can in order to have an edge when looking to climb up the corporate ladder. I get four weeks paid time-off work and I travel a couple of times each year for leisure. Just this past December, I spent a month in Italy traveling by myself. It was my dream trip and I had a fantastic time.

I’m a skeptic by nature and like to do thorough research before committing myself to anything. When I turned 30, my parents wanted to know what was going on with my dating life, if I was dating anyone and when I was going to marry. I’m the eldest of the two kids (sons) so naturally, there is pressure from parents and relatives to get married. I told them about my unwillingness to marry, that the chips are stacked against men in North America, that I do not want kids and the burden of raising them and paying for them. My dad understands and completely supports my decision. My mom, not so much, haha. I love my mom but I can see just how patient my dad has to be in order to deal with mom. She can be a royal pain in his ass. My parents have given me a perfect example of why I should never marry. I love my dad too but he got the shorter end of the stick for sure.

I sometimes go on cheap coffee dates if I’m looking for a ‘friends with benefits’ arrangement. I tell these women I meet, “My commitment is to my parents because I love them very much. My commitment is to constantly learning new things as it ensures continued growth in my line of work. My commitment is to having a fantastic time in life and travel to all corners of the world, eat excellent food and experience all cultures.”

None of my priorities involve having to deal with women. I have structured my life in such a way that women are no longer on my priority totem pole. What is it they bring to the table anyway? Absolutely nothing! Whatever they bring to the table isn’t worth me potentially losing all my wealth to them in divorce, alimony and child support. They are an afterthought to me. I mainly use them for my amusement and them toss them aside like a piece of used and worthless rag they are. Always remember friends, don’t think of what you can do for her but what SHE can do for you.

A BIG, BIG, BIG thank you to everyone here. This forum has educated my tremendously and saved me from making the mistake of marriage. Without this forum and all your posts to guide me, I would have been married off with kids and a life-long of pain and regret to look forward to.

Not having to worry about women, marriage and kids has allowed me to focus on my own life and working towards my goals. My goal is to retire by 45. At that point, I will sell my place in the city, buy a fully paid-off property on a five or ten acre parcel of land in the countryside, and put the remainder in investment properties and retirement fund.

Without women and children to worry about, freedom 45 is possible!

Thank you folks!

[Jan SobieskiParticipant 28791]

Welcome home brother!

Love is just alimony waiting to happen. Visit mgtow.com.

[MACHOParticipant]

Welcome joepoet5!

Indeed it’s been months since you Joined mgtow.com on August 11, 2016! It’s a Pretty well written post, and a very professional one!.. But you already mentioned that 🙂 I guess your main reason to finally manifest yourself after all this time is to repay all of us mgtow.com members.

Anonymous wrote:

None of my priorities involve having to deal with women. I have structured my life in such a way that women are no longer on my priority totem pole. What is it they bring to the table anyway? Absolutely nothing! Whatever they bring to the table isn’t worth me potentially losing all my wealth to them in divorce, alimony and child support. They are an afterthought to me. I mainly use them for my amusement and them toss them aside like a piece of used and worthless rag they are. Always remember friends, don’t think of what you can do for her but what SHE can do for you

Anonymous wrote:

A BIG, BIG, BIG thank you to everyone here. This forum has educated my tremendously and saved me from making the mistake of marriage. Without this forum and all your posts to guide me, I would have been married off with kids and a life-long of pain and regret to look forward to.

You must own a better Crystal ball than I

[Greg HondaParticipant 6406]

Hi JoePoet5,

I know a lot of guys read the forum for a while before posting, which is a wise move IMO.

I’d be interested to know what inspired you to make your intro now after waiting so long? You seem like a pretty confident person in your description. I would assume that being from Canadastan, you would have had plenty of observations in the past year to share with us?

Just sayin’

It's Time to get Wise

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

Welcome

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[Blue SkiesParticipant 15665]

welcome dude.
i’m glad you found the path to freedom.
enjoy the forums and website.

speaking of Canada….

here’s a recent thread about Canadians.

Life is short, don't waste it.

MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.

[Blue SkiesParticipant 15665]

Anonymous wrote:

A BIG, BIG, BIG thank you to everyone here. This forum has educated my tremendously and saved me from making the mistake of marriage.

you’re welcome 😉

MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.

[The Manipulated ManParticipant 1856]

Greetings JP5,

Appreciate your introduction and your choices on the MGTOW Road.

At your age I was divorced and paying Alimony. A third of my income was automatically deducted for fifteen years.

The next twenty years after my divorce was spent being a Chad which turned out to be a complete waste of my time, looking back.

Back then, I thought that being a Chad or “Laying Pipe” was fun and I wouldn’t let anyone convince me otherwise.

Some of the best MGTOW content is buried in the Introductions. For example, Tower just wrote this gem in the following reply in someone else’s Introduction yesterday. In fact, all of Tower’s words ring true since I signed up on MGTOW and this reply does a fine job of describing the lessons I learned as a former Chad.

Anonymous wrote:

….Feminism and Gynocentrism has ended any happiness for a man seeking anything to do with a women.

They’re like wild boars (razorbacks),
they’re to be avoided or shot dead on the attack.

Make no concessions for this beast, it has no mercy and will never be domesticated,
it will kill all the fields and fruit trees you planted for your survival.

Then it will devour you at your most vulnerable and weakest moment…..

What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?

[Anonymous 3]

Thanks for your post. Be aware of coffee dates with women who carry banana knifes

[HitmanParticipant]

welcome!

[AttonParticipant]

Welcome boy.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[EyeswideopenParticipant 2930]

Welcome Joepoet5;

You are a smart man ditching the social and family expectation of marriage and children. I was not as wise – luckily, my marriage was short and without kids. I was divorced by mid 30s. I avoided the divorce raping. In European families, social programming is on high.

In the 3 some odd years since my divorce I have managed to pay off my home and contribute to retirement. I would like to be semi retired by 45 as well. I think your on a winning path.

Since you are so young, I don’t think you have to go total monk. Get your fix while travelling under an assumed name.

- Marriage is described as an institution. You would have to be crazy to be commited to it. -"If you want to live a happy life, tie it to a goal. Not people or things" Albert Einstein

[Anonymous 0]

Thank you everyone for the warm welcome and guidance. Much appreciated!

The Manipulated Man wrote:

Greetings JP5,

Appreciate your introduction and your choices on the MGTOW Road.

At your age I was divorced and paying Alimony. A third of my income was automatically deducted for fifteen years.

The next twenty years after my divorce was spent being a Chad which turned out to be a complete waste of my time, looking back.

Back then, I thought that being a Chad or “Laying Pipe” was fun and I wouldn’t let anyone convince me otherwise.

Some of the best MGTOW content is buried in the Introductions. For example, Tower just wrote this gem in the following reply in someone else’s Introduction yesterday. In fact, all of Tower’s words ring true since I signed up on MGTOW and this reply does a fine job of describing the lessons I learned as a former Chad.

MG-ɹǝʍo┴ wrote:

….Feminism and Gynocentrism has ended any happiness for a man seeking anything to do with a women.

They’re like wild boars (razorbacks),
they’re to be avoided or shot dead on the attack.

Make no concessions for this beast, it has no mercy and will never be domesticated,
it will kill all the fields and fruit trees you planted for your survival.

Then it will devour you at your most vulnerable and weakest moment…..

@ The Manipulated Man – Oh absolutely! Well said by Tower. Feminism and Gynocentrism is responsible for the decline in men willing to commit and a decline in marriage rates. These “liberated” women won’t find a man willing to put up with that kind of crazy, will hit the wall at 35, will have to work till their are 70 and will have their cats as friends.

Greg Honda wrote:

Hi JoePoet5,

I know a lot of guys read the forum for a while before posting, which is a wise move IMO.

I’d be interested to know what inspired you to make your intro now after waiting so long? You seem like a pretty confident person in your description. I would assume that being from Canadastan, you would have had plenty of observations in the past year to share with us?

Just sayin’

@ Greg Honda – You hit up on a couple of things that require a bit more explanation and I am more than happy to elaborate.

2016 was a busy year for me as I was working full-time and was pursuing a university certification at the same time. I joined this website in August 2016 (during my semester break) with the intention of introducing myself and contributing to the forums but work and school took up most of my free time. I was so enthralled by all the posts on this forum and decided to read them during my commute to work and from work.

In December, after finishing my certification, I traveled to Italy for a month. Upon arriving at a hostel in Genoa, I met a guy there and after chatting for a little bit I asked him if he knew about MGTOW. His eyes lit up and for next couple of days, we talked and talked. We have stayed in touch ever since and we encourage one another to contribute to MGTOW in a meaningful way.

So here I am, taking my first steps. I am thinking of starting a YouTube channel and it would be great to receive some input from the forum members on that.

If I come across as confident in my post, it is thanks to you all on this forum. I wasn’t always confident. In fact, I once was a white-knighting, beta-simping mangina a few years ago. I used to be that nice guy that lent my shoulder for women to cry on and let them rant about their alpha asshole. I used to be that guy that would buy them chocolates, stuffed animals and desserts. Just thinking about the things I did for women as a beta-male makes me cringe to this day. And what did I get in the end? A big fat nothing!

So one day I told my friend that I’ll temporarily approach women as an alpha asshole and see if that helped. Boy, what a revelation that was! I realized that women loved, worshiped and respected alpha-males. From then on, finding women and fooling around with them became too easy. Slowly but surely, that alpha-male attribute became a natural part of me and the beta-male in me was dead forever. It led me to realize how female psychology worked. If women are denied something, they want it more. Women enjoy drama in their life just to keep them on their toes. Women say they dislike uncertainty but in reality, that is what they enjoy as it keeps them guessing which keeps them from getting bored. I would always tell these women that I don’t want marriage or kids. Initially they would agree, just to start dating me but the inevitable would happen after a few months as they would start to work on changing my mind. The ticking of their biological clocks was deafening. So I would dump them and move on to another one until the cycle repeated itself.

A few years of fooling around started to get tiring. I didn’t feel like spending my hard-earned money on women so I started limiting my dates to $5 Timmies or Starbucks dates and I haven’t been on such a date in months. Lately, what brings me joy are the simple things in life – working, studying, cooking, watching ballgames, camping and having a few cold ones. Women, who once used to be a priority to me, now are an afterthought. Women will have to contend with waiting forever because for now, I’m focusing on enjoying my life. “Sweetie, you are not entitled to my money. You are entitled to your cats”.

My male co-workers are either married or engaged to be. They all seem so dazed, confused and robotic. The very life seems to have been sucked out of them. I see that everyday. I hear from my divorced friends how much they have to pay in child support and alimony after their wives beat them up with a no-fault-divorce hammer.

But one might ask, joepoet5, what if you fall in love? Aww, isn’t that puppies and rainbows?

I have always thought of myself as a logical person. Now that doesn’t mean that I am incapable of feeling emotions. It just means that when it comes to making important life choices and decisions, emotions have no place in it. Decisions that have life-long repercussions have to be logically. So logically speaking, marriage and children do not make sense to me in the North American society.

I owe you all a big thank you for sharing your stories, your challenges and triumphs. It helped me gain confidence and perspective.

Note – This is only my second post. I am still learning the nuances of posting on this forum. My apologies if the quotes and messages do not publish in their intended order.

[Anonymous 6]

Hello Joepoet5.
Only found this place a couple of weeks ago.
Went my own way long ago.
Good luck.

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