Hawaii: An MGTOW Success Story

[Be Her DaddyParticipant 410]

I haven’t been on here in a while after being led astray from the plantation.

So I met this girl at a restaurant while taking an avalanche safety training course in Flagstaff, Arizona. Met her grabbing a burger after day 2 of the course and scheduled a date with her after the last day of the class. She was a cool chick, I had a great time with her and although I wasn’t thinking she had potential, she kept up contact. I live in California, and went back out to Arizona a month later and we went to Phoenix, caught a spring training baseball game and fooled around in the hotel afterwards. It was fun…

So anyways, this girl kept up the contact and became increasingly clingy, but I fell for the trap, yet I always maintained my red-pill training. She would come out to CA and I would go out to AZ every other month to hang out… (Big mistake). Well eventually she said she was moving to Hawaii with her mommy. I am 30, she was 25. She had literally only held one job in her life, a retail job for a month or two when she was about 20 or so. She had graduated college 18 months prior and had never put in an application for a career type job, or any job and had lived with mommy ever since. She had a Speech Pathology degree which held promise for a good career. (My aunt does SLP in San Diego and she drives a baller $200K Porsche and does very well for herself with her husband or 40 years), so I thought this girl may have a promising future and was a UNICORN… LOL!!! I got stupid and started to fall for her.

So my dumbass actually started looking into moving to Hawaii and everything I read about living there said NO F~~~King way. My Red-Pill training was coming in handy here! Thank you MGTOW!

I own a business and a home in Orange County, Calif. in a very well-to-do neighborhood. She lived with her mommy with no job, and wanted to move 3,000 miles from her home to live on an island with no economy, and no job prospects with her mommy. I began to look at her job potential and a simple search on Monster for SLP jobs turned up a whopping total of 3 job postings, none of which she was qualified for. A search in Phoenix, Arizona turned up 462 job postings, as well as there were ACTIVELY HIRING jobs in Flagstaff, where she lived for her field. Hawaii had NO ACTIVELY HIRING JOBS for her field. Numerous other research reports showed California, Arizona and MANY MANY other states with better job prospects for her career path, with Hawaii turning up near the worst in the US, as well as the #1 most expensive state for cost of living index.

She chose to go to Hawaii with mommy, who racked out 70% of her 401K to buy a junker house in a ghetto neighborhood just to be able to live there. Her mom even told her she would need to subsidize mommy’s “retirement” in Hawaii if they wanted to be able to afford to live there.

Immediate red flags!!!! I knew instantly that once mommy’s 401K was completely shot (likely in 10 years or less by my calculations considering she only had left herself $1,000/month to live off of for 10 years at 60 years old, and was counting on social security of $2,000/month which wouldn’t be available for 7 years when she was 67), I realized that mommy would be coming to live at my house because she would have no other options after blowing her life savings in less than a decade of “retirement”… They even talked about how they were “entitled” to her ex husbands (this girls father’s) parents who, as her mommy put it, would “be dying soon”. I looked it up and even with the crazy divorce laws in America, no ex-spouse is entitled to or can possibly get half an inheritance from a divorce, many years later after the divorce. Especially not in a conservative state like Arizona. It wouldn’t even happen in a crazy liberal state with insane judges like California.

This chick literally thought I was going to relocate my business, sell my home and move to some island in the middle of nowhere because that is what her mom wanted. I even overheard her mom saying “Well when he moves out here with us….” LOL!!! Never asked me if I would LIKE to move there, or how this would affect her daughter and my relationship, just assumed I would blue pill it all the way to the airport with my life in-tow…

THANK YOU MGTOW for red-pilling me years ago. I saw this TRAP coming from a thousand miles away. I broke up with her right after my 30th birthday, told her it wasn’t her, but her mom was a batS~~t crazy man-hating feminist and it would never work.

Thanks to current socio-political culture in the USA, I had to check the Arizona court system, Orange County (CA) court system and San Bernardino County (CA) court system just to see if she had tried to file rape, sexual assault, harassment or stalking charges JUST TO BE SURE…. This is what it is like to break up with a woman these days. You DO NOT know what they are capable of, and the courts will BELIEVE THEIR LIES if they choose to go that route. Relationships are scary these days.

Thank you MGTOW for saving me ONCE AGAIN. I’ve got plenty more good story about this mistake I made, but enough for now. Us younger dudes are at an age where after decades of crazy feminism, we aren’t only in danger of the women we choose to date, but ALSO their mothers. It is a strange new world out there…

This right here is an MGTOW SUCCESS STORY. You bros saved me from impending death by castration at the hands of a female.

[Anonymous 13]

Great story Bro and welcome back.

Once you have redpill vision then you can’t NOT see the bulls~~~ or the trap being set.

It is fully transparent.

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

Yes well done.

Passed sith flying colors… NOW DONT GET YOURSELF IN THAT POSITION EVER AGAIN.

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[MonkParticipant 17068]

The was one heck of a life changing disaster neatly sidestepped.

MGTOW saves lives.

[Be Her DaddyParticipant 410]

Monk wrote:

The was one heck of a life changing disaster neatly sidestepped.

MGTOW saves lives.

Yessir it was. From my research I read that many people move out there, can’t find work and can’t handle the isolation and then can’t afford to move back at the price of $5,000-$8,000+USD to ship their stuff back across the Pacific. It literally would have been a life-altering mistake.

[~BSParticipant 3266]

making it in hawaii is tough, even the locals struggle to make ends meet (ask me how I know).

To move to hawaii and make it, you pretty much need a job paying minimum $60k/year assuming you’re single. If you’re married or with kids, you’re looking at least at $100k/year combined. And even that will be a struggle. If you’re working the typical minimum wage tourism job and burning through assets with no way to replace it, you’ll end up in a lot of trouble.

9/10 people that move to hawaii move back to whereever they came from within 2 years, and their wallets a whole lot lighter. Uprooting something successful to move to hawaii and live like a pauper is beyond stupid. You’ll be far better off financially by making your $$$$$$ where you live and simply taking a 2 week hawaii vacation yearly. Or making your $$$$$, then retiring early in hawaii.

"He didn't marry until now, so he won't ever do it. Think about it, why would a man like him ever marry? It's too late to catch him. " ~some cunt

[Be Her DaddyParticipant 410]

~BS wrote:

making it in hawaii is tough, even the locals struggle to make ends meet (ask me how I know).

To move to hawaii and make it, you pretty much need a job paying minimum $60k/year assuming you’re single. If you’re married or with kids, you’re looking at least at $100k/year combined. And even that will be a struggle. If you’re working the typical minimum wage tourism job and burning through assets with no way to replace it, you’ll end up in a lot of trouble.

9/10 people that move to hawaii move back to whereever they came from within 2 years, and their wallets a whole lot lighter. Uprooting something successful to move to hawaii and live like a pauper is beyond stupid. You’ll be far better off financially by making your $$$$$$ where you live and simply taking a 2 week hawaii vacation yearly. Or making your $$$$$, then retiring early in hawaii.

Sounds like what I have read. I am trying to escape California where it is nearly as expensive to live. I do home inspections in California and HI gets about 4,000-5,000 sales per year on the Big Island and I would need to cover nearly 8-10% of those sales to live bare-bones minimum out there. In the greater LA Basin we do 20,000-30,000+ sales so you can see what I am working against going from a solid market to a market where they don’t want Haoles and then I would have to market business…. Never seemed good from a business standpoint and that would have been working Hilo to Kapaau to Ocean View, with a 3 hour round trip commute to a lot of places from Pahoa where her mommy was going to live…

Sounds like you may live in HI bro? I have two good friends who lived in Hawaii, both in Oahu stationed there in the Marines and Army. They both got out and now live in San Antonio and Dallas Texas and enjoy it much better. HI seems chill but like I said, I am trying to move away from California, not move to a state that is more expensive and difficult to live in than Cali. No offense to Hawaii.

Mele Kalikimaka from your Haole MGTOW bro, if you’re in Hawaii my MGTOW brotha

[AttonParticipant]

Hard as hell to ship things to Hawaii

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[~BSParticipant 3266]

^

Yup.

Certain areas of cali (and all of hawaii) are expensive to live, both high taxes. The difference is that there’s a lot more career opportunities in cali where you can make a lot of money. in hawaii, salaries are lower across the board for equivalent level work, and the vast majority of the jobs are s~~~ty. And the better jobs are gotten by “who you know” rather than what you know. Then you consider that you’re far away from your support network of friends and family, and the high cost of moving and travel to your home state, and it becomes even tougher.

Either military or a company that pays you to move + cost of living adjustment is the best way to move to hawaii.

Living Paycheck to Paycheck in Paradise

hawaii has a large exodus of younger people to the lower 48 looking for better opportunity. But has a net population gain yearly due to the micronesians and other south east asians coming over and making use of the wefare system and the large amounts of mainland transplants (of which 1/10 will end up staying).

"He didn't marry until now, so he won't ever do it. Think about it, why would a man like him ever marry? It's too late to catch him. " ~some cunt

[Mr. SpockParticipant 10934]

I feel sorry for the guy in Hawaii who thinks he hit the jackpot with this one.
She’ll soon be making plans of “accidentally” getting pregnant. It’s her only option if she wants to secure a wallet to subsidize her and Mommy dearest.
Well played sir.

Feminism isn't about equality with men, it's about leverage over men.

[Be Her DaddyParticipant 410]

Yeah I noticed that. The salary for her job was literally capped around $55,000 (with about 8-12 years experience) whereas the average salary in Calif. was starting around $80,000 and could go well into 6 figures.

Yep I understood that my Haole white boy a~s didn’t know anyone and wouldn’t get contacts very well. She didn’t pick up that though… Hell, my sister moved to Carolina and it took her 8 months to land a basic job at a shoe store because those people didn’t trust her, same like Hawaiian’s don’t trust Haoles because they know they leave after 2 years or less… Same deal, different part of the country.

Surprisingly the home inspector I recommended in Pahoa charged more that I would have by quite a lot and I wonder if that was desperation for lack of business or not. Who knows.

I’m trying to sell my home in California to “exodus” out of here and I have had a lot of interest in my place from Hawai’i residents looking to move to the mainland.

[Anonymous 42]

Avalanche safety is a must! The parables to MGTOW are striking!

1st. Check the avalanche safety index for the area you plan on visiting.

2nd. Ask the locals for their opinions and where common slides happen.

3rd. On site inspection of the snowpack, especially layers of sleet that cause slabs to break free.

4th. Never go back country without ABS (airbag)

5th. Stay off cornices and wind drift accumulations.

6th. Stay clear of your own duff.

I set three off myself, the most frightening was a slab that nearly caused my death! When in doubt, STRAIGHTEN OUT! stay on top of the snow and IGNORE THE SPEED!

I’ll never forget it! Turn, turn, turn, then NOTHING! I was so lucky that it broke after the last turn and not during, leaving me in the right direction for escape! Straight down the fall line!

Snow goes around the trees and filters out all the people and debris! That could have been me!

Women are the worst avalanche conditions that can happen at any given time and any given place! All the ingredients are there and awaiting any man that didn’t study avalanche safety!

I stay off women and go around on less steeper grades!

[NerevarParticipant 8040]

Why 3 topics?

"One of the best things internet exposed is just how insane women are." - Freeman_K

[AwakenedParticipant 35223]

You are VERY fortunate THAT you Escaped.

If She Chose, She could have went to her local police Department, and ACCUSE YOU of WHATEVER the hell she wanted to, and YOU WOULD BE LOCKED UP TODAY.

I know that you looked into this, But have YOU REALLY THOUGHT ABOUT JUST HOW MUCH YOU RISKED ??

In a World of Justin Beibers Be a Johnny Cash

[Be Her DaddyParticipant 410]

Anonymous wrote:

Avalanche safety is a must! The parables to MGTOW are striking!

1st. Check the avalanche safety index for the area you plan on visiting.

2nd. Ask the locals for their opinions and where common slides happen.

3rd. On site inspection of the snowpack, especially layers of sleet that cause slabs to break free.

4th. Never go back country without ABS (airbag)

5th. Stay off cornices and wind drift accumulations.

6th. Stay clear of your own duff.

I set three off myself, the most frightening was a slab that nearly caused my death! When in doubt, STRAIGHTEN OUT! stay on top of the snow and IGNORE THE SPEED!

I’ll never forget it! Turn, turn, turn, then NOTHING! I was so lucky that it broke after the last turn and not during, leaving me in the right direction for escape! Straight down the fall line!

Snow goes around the trees and filters out all the people and debris! That could have been me!

Women are the worst avalanche conditions that can happen at any given time and any given place! All the ingredients are there and awaiting any man that didn’t study avalanche safety!

I stay off women and go around on less steeper grades!

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Hey bro you know your stuff. I am just curious where you’re from? You call it “Duff” and we call it “Sluff”. Nothing wrong with that man, I am just curious where they call it “Duff”?

[Be Her DaddyParticipant 410]

Nerevar wrote:

Why 3 topics?

Pabst Blue Ribbon….

My Grandfather just passed away at 93, WWII U.S. Navy Veteran. He was a Radio Technician on the U.S.S Pittsburgh. I was having a few too many last night.

[Can’t Stump TrumpParticipant]

Be Her Daddy wrote:

She chose to go to Hawaii with mommy, who racked out 70% of her 401K

Bad financial decisions run in the family. You can be sure if the mom’s that stupid, the daughter was never taught how to handle money. Bullet dodged. Now get off the shooting range!

Women are better at multitasking? Fucking up several things at once is not multitasking.

[Be Her DaddyParticipant 410]

Can’t Stump Trump wrote:

Be Her Daddy wrote:

She chose to go to Hawaii with mommy, who racked out 70% of her 401K

Bad financial decisions run in the family. You can be sure if the mom’s that stupid, the daughter was never taught how to handle money. Bullet dodged. Now get off the shooting range!

In my defense I found this out at the end of the Relations~~~. She was 25 and still got an allowance of $600 from daddy, he paid her health care insurance, car insurance and car payment, she lived at home with mommy and had access to her credit cards… No need to say more. She had a real nice Subaru Forester that she left at my place so it was easier for her to ship to Hawaii. Lets just say, daddy’s car got a workout on the 4×4 roads and was never the same…

[QuellParticipant 2538]

You made the right decision.

The other thing to consider about Hawaii is that it is only paradise if you have a ton of money and live amongst those who also have a ton of money.

If you don’t fit the Hawaiian culture and are basically a mainland wealthy person the locals will not accept you. They call rich people from the mainland “Haoles”. You will be looked down upon in every aspect of Hawaiian Society outside of the tourism industry. Getting a job, respect in social settings and dealing with any sort of civil or government services is a nightmare.

Hawaii is a dichotomy of extreme wealth and extreme poverty. The economy is mostly all tourist based since many of the major agriculture farming operations moved to South America 30 years ago. Lots of poverty and drug abuse over there.

[NerevarParticipant 8040]

Be Her Daddy wrote:

Nerevar wrote:

Why 3 topics?

Pabst Blue Ribbon….

My Grandfather just passed away at 93, WWII U.S. Navy Veteran. He was a Radio Technician on the U.S.S Pittsburgh. I was having a few too many last night.

My condolences, brother.

"One of the best things internet exposed is just how insane women are." - Freeman_K

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