Have you ever fallen in love with a woman before?

[narwhalParticipant]

I’ve said it many times before, but to women outside of my family, twice maybe at the most. The first might have been just really deep infatuation. The second, my ex-wife.

I couldn’t even really say that I was all that in love with her before we were married, but I have no doubt that I was while we were married. For much of that time we were married, I don’t even think I liked her very much, but I loved her. And when she was gone, it hurt like hell, more then anything I’ve ever felt before.

It wasn’t about I high of any sort, it’s just what I did, what I was about. I honestly think that my brainwaves changed to fit being with her. When it was over, it was like she died. Mentally, the woman I married isn’t the person I call my ex-wife now…my woman I married no longer exists.

Two things my ex-wife said to me when things were on the way out.

“Why don’t you love me anymore?”

“I don’t love you anymore”

I couldn’t respond to either statement because they didn’t make any sense to me. The first, not because of how I felt, but because of my resume. The second, because I knew she was talking about how she felt. I couldn’t understand how she based her decision on what she felt over what was real.

It’s been said that there are different kinds of love. romance, lust, liking a lot, whatever. I think there really is one though. It’s not different between your kids, your parents, and the people you let in your life. Not at the core anyway. It just varies in intensity.

As for that Celine Dion, although it is backwards, at the very least, she’s encouraging women who want to leave their husbands to stop and consider what you said you believed in. I agree though much of her music is pretty selfish and crappy. I used to appreciate her vocals…can’t really listen anymore. My favorite might be “with this tear”, but that’s actually a Prince tune.

Ok. Then do it.

[Anonymous 11]

Yes, more than once, and never again.

[DanceMyOwnWayParticipant 2097]

Many times BUT

You can either love women or you can understand them.

These days it’s door number 2

If you fall down 7 times, get up 8

[ScarberianMPTGLParticipant 3286]

Oh, yes, multiple times. I can even name them. Ahem..

Rias Gremory
Dark Magician Girl
Tohru Honda
Sekirei #88 Musubi
Asia Argento
Kallen Kozuki
C.C.

And the list goes on and on.

I, Lelouch Vi Britannia, command you, all of you, to Go Your Own Way!!

[AttonParticipant]

Yes and here she is equally as fake as a real NAWALT.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[MgtowWaveParticipant 4352]

The women I “loved” were a figment of my imagination.I ascribed to them virtues and personality traits that they never really had.

Traits like empathy , honesty,self control,humility,thrift,loyalty ,trustworthiness etc.

To be fair to myself , I trusted them and put faith in them in being who they said they are, instead of waiting to see if they really are who they say they are.

Peoples true colors eventually surface .

My fault.

Foolishly innocent and naive to paraphrase an ex of mine.

Women , almost all universally virtue signal .Meaning that that the personality traits that they project , at any one time , depend on who they are with and what they want at that moment.

http://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-who-lies-about-sex-more-men-or-women-20130528-story.html

Women lie to Virtue Signal and men lie to signal social competence .

So who really has virtues ??

Watch this video and think about it for a moment .

This PUA s~~~head btw , makes gynocentric excuses for them but I dont.

Women Are Trouble and I dont have time for it.

If I knew when I was a young man what I know now , I would have avoided a lot of the interactions with women that I participated in .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGEO6ig8WsM .

I ascribe it to human evolution .I can no more be bitter and angry about it than I can the behaviors of other living things the world over.From the smallest virus to the largest ocean going predator .Washing your hands is a smart way to avoid catching a cold.Being careful while swimming at the beach is a good way to avoid being stung or bitten.

Just like not getting married is a real good way to avoid divorce.

Only a tiny % of people who swim at the beach are ever bitten by a shark.While 50% of men who fall in “love” and marry are bitten by divorce.

frankly my dear i don't give a damn

[Anonymous 3]

I don’t think it’s possible for a man over 20 to fall in love, and I’m not sure girls can fall in love over 16.

[MGTOW KnightParticipant 7477]

Love is a fool’s errand. Why even bother?

Fuck bitches... literally and metaphorically

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

With college gf, with the gf after the college gf, with two women in 1995 (early 1995, then late 1995), my first wife, my second wife.

All illusion, I later realized last year after the 2nd one left. 50,000 pages of material later (love, sex, romance, marriage, dating, psychology, etc) I realize it is all illusion.

Since then I’ve had flings with one woman who turned out to be married (to former soldier, which really p~~~ed me off), one a single Mom who was ex-Army, and one who was a big-tittied blond. Then I started dating two women in late December that eventually both became girlfriends (one Asian, originally from Vietnam; and the other white). I broke up with the Vietnamese one since I sensed a hidden volatility and aggressiveness. I saw little-to-none actually surface, though.

But with all 5 women, I can not say I felt a single emotion that was any different than what I got from my 8-lb Nina Chan fake pussy. The sex was a little better, like maybe an 8 compared to a 7 (the fake pussy) or a 6 (fleshlight).

Since I know that romantic love is not real and is just an illusion now, I cannot fall in love anymore.

It is like that scene near the end of “Star Trek: Generations” where Captain Kirk leaps the gap with his horse and said to Picard that: “I must have made this jump fifty times. And every time, it scared the hell out of me. But not this time… Because. It’s not real.”

I can’t fall in love when I know its not real.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[RennieParticipant]

I thought I did when I was 13.

It was one of those things where you put too much faith in something that is unproven and untested. I genuinely believed she was a wonder of the world. I was a fool.

Needless to say, not only did she promptly throw me in the trash, she completely failed to be what I hoped/imagined she was.

The revelation was so damning that I never looked at any of them the same way again. Changed the course of history and ultimately led me to MGTOW.

[MgtowWaveParticipant 4352]

Maybe a better question could be “Do women fall in love the same way men do?”

TFM made a video about this.

My answer : I dont think so..

Example :

This (well known) mans wife.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T._D._Jakes

I saw her(on TV) talking about how she makes sure she takes good care of him BECAUSE he could go find someone else if she does not take good care of him.

With other women there nodding in
agreement .

Is that what you call love ?

Is that a real reason to show you “care” about someone because they might cheat on you?

Or is a real reason to show you care about someone because you really do care about them ?

A man on the other hand , wants a woman who who has the virtue and personal integrity back him up if he falls on hard times.

Looks to me like virtue and personal integrity are far less important to women than it is to men when it comes to choosing who to have a relationship with.

From what I have seen , women are far more likely to take a chance with and have a relationship with a man who has a high SMV and high status who might cheat or abuse than men .

Is that what love is?

“Love” someone for their status? AND/OR For the dead presidents in his bank account?

Or is that just sexual attraction ,little to no different than that of animals ?

The popularity of 50 Shades ring a bell anyone ?

How popular would the movie have been if Mr. Grey was a burger flipper in a fast food place ..

Does anyone understand what im trying to explain ?

I think the possibility of raising another mans kids(because she cheated) is a far greater turn off for men than it is for women to risk him fathering a child with another woman.

Unpleasant but if he can afford to keep her accommodated in the life style shes accustomed too..well…

A logical explanation as to why a womans sexual history, is of far greater importance to men than a mans sexual history is to women.

So who a man is , with regards to things like his virtues and the pro social aspects of his personality count for far less with women than it does for men .

“Emotional bonding ” for women, (with men) is far more rooted in things like looks , status and SMV than it is with men .

So is love such a shallow thing ?

Not from where Im standing and as far as I know, more men see it as i do than women .

I think a good definition of love is appropriate but I wont go into that here and now.

Except to say imo that it has a whole lot to do with how you treat someone .

After much hard thought I step away from that arena .

frankly my dear i don't give a damn

[Jim01Participant 6678]

Nope. I have the British stiff upper lip so don’t show or feel any of that sort of crap

That has probably saved me and MGTOW is the natural home for me

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