Happy marriages are a fantasy

[ghostParticipant]

Monogamy is not in our nature. Happy marriages are just another fantasy. I know of NO married men among my circle who I would rather be. The one’s who are honest tell me they may have the best situation among their other married friends, but I am still better off being single. I think we can find contentment by forcing ourselves to remain single and not depend on women for anything. It’s such a powerful feeling.

[bstoffParticipant 4865]

Monogamy among humans has probably never truly been in our nature. I think church and government got that program started in order to control their income of public resources by establishing easily-manageable families. Now government and even churches seem to be discreetly doing just the opposite, so I guess the pendulum is swinging the other way now? Not really sure that’s a good thing.

[joetechParticipant]

I read a comment tonight at a youtube video about a guy with 5 brothers and 5 sisters. All but two are divorced, and one of the brothers still married is miserable. That’s a 10% success rate. More proof that the CDC study is probably right. 93% of all marriages end within the first ten years. That sounds more accurate than the 50% number that’s been bandied about since the 60’s.

"Don't follow in my footsteps...I stepped in something."

[ghostParticipant]

joetech wrote:

I read a comment tonight at a youtube video about a guy with 5 brothers and 5 sisters. All but two are divorced, and one of the brothers still married is miserable. That’s a 10% success rate. More proof that the CDC study is probably right. 93% of all marriages end within the first ten years. That sounds more accurate than the 50% number that’s been bandied about since the 60’s.

The CDC study is spot on and it will only get worse I think. We should look at Japan to get an idea of where we are headed.

[ghostParticipant]

bstoff wrote:

Monogamy among humans has probably never truly been in our nature. I think church and government got that program started in order to control their income of public resources by establishing easily-manageable families. Now government and even churches seem to be discreetly doing just the opposite, so I guess the pendulum is swinging the other way now? Not really sure that’s a good thing.

You’re absolutely right. We will continue to evolve and nature will do it’s thing. I don’t see us going extinct anytime soon.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

Here is an excellent example of this.
“Happily Married Dreaming of divorce”.

Imagine being her husband of 16 years after busting your ass to make her “happy” , and your wife goes on in a mile-long diatribe about you to Oprah and CNN…… about how much she resents the s~~~ out of you because you still greet her miserable & ungrateful ass with SMILE in the morning – while she would rather behave like a complete bitch before 10AM.

Goddam right it’s a fantasy. Even when it “didn’t fail”, it doesn’t mean it “worked”. Just because you didn’t crash your car on the way to Vegas doesn’t mean you had a good time.

Are they ALL™ that way? Who can say. But even the outwardly “happy marriages” I have seen are built on a foundation of lies and mutually-accepted delusion.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[ghostParticipant]

Keymaster wrote:

Here is an excellent example of this.
“Happily Married Dreaming of divorce”.

Imagine being her husband of 16 years after busting your ass to make her “happy” , and your wife goes on in a mile-long diatribe about you to Oprah and CNN…… about how much she resents the s~~~ out of you because you still greet her miserable & ungrateful ass with SMILE in the morning – while she would rather behave like a complete bitch before 10AM.

Goddam right it’s a fantasy. Even when it “didn’t fail”, it doesn’t mean it “worked”. Just because you didn’t crash your car on the way to Vegas doesn’t mean you had a good time.

That was so painful to read. I feel terrible for that guy. I have had enough experiences with LTRs while observing the lives of married friends and parents and to know it’s a fantasy. I cannot swallow the pill even if I tried. I have come very close but somehow it always broke off at the last minute. The women just could not accept the fact that I would never accept being controlled in any way. They ended up finding a beta simp or are still single. Female nature never changes. My mom is an amazing woman and has supported by Dad through everything. I would still not want to be in his shoes. I will not accept monogamy because it is not in our nature. I have very high testosterone and do not do any drugs to suppress it. The future for myself will be polygamy or eternal bachelorhood. The latter is more likely though given where I live and how I earn a living.

[ghostParticipant]

Are they ALL™ that way? Who can say. But even the outwardly “happy marriages” I have seen are built on a foundation of lies and mutually-accepted delusion.

That’s true. You can swallow the blue pill and find “happiness” but you know in the back of your mind that you’re living on a “foundation of lies and mutually-accepted delusion”. It’s no different than believing in and/or participating in organized religion. I will nod my head around religious people but I know I don’t want to be part of it.

[AttonParticipant]

I think we can find contentment by forcing ourselves to remain single and not depend on women for anything. It’s such a powerful feeling.

Its like feeling that you are going to lift off the ground.

A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!

[ForeverDoneParticipant 2928]

Love this quote:

as one friend’s husband put it, “I’m essentially a checkbook and a sperm bank — but I’m okay with that!

Can’t believe I read that.. I had a double-take and had to read it again. Sad.

[John Woods 13Participant 2855]

Keymaster wrote:

Are they ALL™ that way? Who can say. But even the outwardly “happy marriages” I have seen are built on a foundation of lies and mutually-accepted delusion.

It has been my hobby for quite some time now to try and find the ever elusive “happy couple”. I always get the “ONLY 50% of marriages fail” line. So I wanted to see if the ones which don’t fail are actually any better.
I know and continue to meet a fair number of married couples and so far I have not seen ANY of them having a HAPPY MARRIAGE. Some of them are decent at best, but most are miserable, living with an endless stream of compromises and dissapointments. Some try to hide it better than others, but I’m very skilled at making people open up, and after a few drinks they start spilling the beans.
It’s a sad, sad state of affairs.

The answer is NO. “I could but I won’t”. Memini murum!

[Anonymous 18]

Marriage is complete surrender to a less intelligent and more emotional and irrational being.

With enough dosage of pussy drug a woman can exploit him and eventually discard him if he as much as voice his dissent at being treated like a tool.

Married men are pussy addicts and go around in a daze and ignoring their mistreatment in hopes of getting the next fix.

But she rather be f~~~ed by his cute single friend.

[Ranger OneParticipant 16836]

Keymaster wrote:

Here is an excellent example of this.
“Happily Married Dreaming of divorce”.

Imagine being her husband of 16 years after busting your ass to make her “happy” , and your wife goes on in a mile-long diatribe about you to Oprah and CNN…… about how much she resents the s~~~ out of you because you still greet her miserable & ungrateful ass with SMILE in the morning – while she would rather behave like a complete bitch before 10AM.

Goddam right it’s a fantasy. Even when it “didn’t fail”, it doesn’t mean it “worked”. Just because you didn’t crash your car on the way to Vegas doesn’t mean you had a good time.

Are they ALL™ that way? Who can say. But even the outwardly “happy marriages” I have seen are built on a foundation of lies and mutually-accepted delusion.

My parents are still married after 4 decades. I found out a while back that my dad was married before my mom: that ended when he walked in and found his first wife being humped by an NFL player in the living room. So, he is a little red-pilled: when I mentioned I had two girlfriends back in February both with the same first name, my mother made a bad face but my dad was amused and just silently laughed when she wasn’t looking.

I don’t think my mom understands how bad women have gotten, but what I said seemed to register with my dad.

My mom makes faces at him when his back is turned, and they mutter stuff behind each other’s back. They remind me of Kreecher, Sirius Black’s house elf in Harry Potter.

They are not divorced. But are they happy? I think they are just used to each other’s BS.

All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

[GnosticParticipant 2491]

John Woods 13 wrote:

It has been my hobby for quite some time now to try and find the ever elusive “happy couple”. I always get the “ONLY 50% of marriages fail” line. So I wanted to see if the ones which don’t fail are actually any better.

The 50% is a lie because they don’t take remarriage into the equation.

If you use remarriage, the first time marriage failure is 70% to 90%. If you are white, it is likely 90%.

CDC confirm marriage is dead

There is no magic in MGTOW, just recognition of the truth and logical decision how to avoid dangers. The red pill is but the truth, it is no magical potion. Do not think in this modern world men have no longer have natural enemies, men are prey to women and government.

[BeerParticipant 11832]

ghost wrote:

I think we can find contentment by forcing ourselves to remain single and not depend on women for anything.

Force myself to remain single? Its not forcing myself when I’ve yet to find a woman worthy of giving my single status up for. The few times I’ve tried I regretted it after a few months lol.

Keymaster wrote:

Are they ALL™ that way? Who can say. But even the outwardly “happy marriages” I have seen are built on a foundation of lies and mutually-accepted delusion.

It always seemed to me that the most outwardly happy marriages only seem that way because they try extra hard to put the show on. Its the same mentality people have when they go into massive debt to buy a BMW and a McMansion just to put forth the image they have money when they are really flat broke.

I’ve known people I thought were happily married who made it 40+ years til one of them died…and none of them ever had to put the show on for anyone. It wasn’t about putting the show on for others 5% of the time they were in public together…it was about how they treated each other the other 95% of the time.

Who knows, maybe they got along worse in their younger years and just learned to live with it because those women were pre-femminism and divorce wasn’t so popular back then, but I’ve known so few that were once married AND actually seemed happy that I’d never want to roll the dice regardless.

[OneTrueMisfitSpectator 2690]

I wish I could be happily married like others.. never argue.. *tries to hold in insane laughter* BWAHAHAHA!

Don't care

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