Happily Married Man

[hadenough1969Participant 539]

It occurred to me yesterday that I have never 1 time in over 4 decades of life heard anyone say, “I am a happily married man”.

Clearly the males species is believing a lie propagandized by agents of darkness.

[AutoliteParticipant]

I’ve never heard a mangina claim to be unhappily married. I guess it just depends on who you’re asking…

[Truthseeker82Participant 6406]

Even if they “say” their happy – are they telling the truth? Just stare into their eyes – the blank look should tell you all you need to know.

[Point Of No ReturnParticipant 4074]

Oh sure, he may be happily married alright. The question is can he repeat the sentence after the honeymoon is over. Marriage = not worth the exit tax.

Know when it is your duty to give them zero explanations for your actions.

[AutoliteParticipant]

Truthseeker82 wrote:

Even if they “say” their happy – are they telling the truth? Just stare into their eyes – the blank look should tell you all you need to know.

Well just do the math. We know that first time divorce rates are somewhere around 50%. It would also be reasonable to assume that the man cannot be in a ‘happy’ marriage even when the the woman initiates the big D.

Now consider that it takes some real fortitude to get a divorce started. It is more or less the ‘last straw’ in a marriage. You know that there’s gotta be a huge percentage of men still trapped in marriage who just haven’t (yet) been able to work up the courage to initiate the divorce.

I knew one guy who suffered 15 years in a loveless, sexless marriage before going for a divorce and I’m willing to bet that there are many other guys who go much longer…

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

Autolite wrote:

I knew one guy who suffered 15 years in a loveless, sexless marriage before going for a divorce and I’m willing to bet that there are many other guys who go much longer…

This is the social reality I always saw.

“It’s cheaper to keep her”

They keep hanging on because they know that the “exit tax” will ruin them and take away everything they worked for. These are the men that claim to be happily married not to offend their “queen c~~~” and then seconds later they call their own wife “the government” (German saying for compulsive controlling wives)

Among my 4000 customers,

…and I have met and worked for all of them in those 18 years because I entered their entire personal data in my Shop PC system when they ordered something…

…I have ONLY SEEN a handful of happily married couples.

There is no such thing as a happy marriage.

Or what do you expect from loveless, vile and self-centered monsters, aka women?

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[AutoliteParticipant]

hadenough1969 wrote:

“I am a happily married man”.

IIRC, that a line Michael Douglas’ character says in the movie “War Of The Roses”…

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

Well that unhappiness is programmed into women.

During all of my short lived relations~~~s I always asked my girlfriends that if I ever get married I want to be happily married or I bail out and leave.

I closely watched them while I said that…

And instead of sympathizing with me like: “Oh, I’m glad to have met a friendly man with a positive attitude…”

They looked at me like I wanted something completely un-achievable…

I could have told them that I want to be as successful as Michael Jackson and they would have agreed… But happy marriage? Are you serious? Are you a fool?

What…?

This is what their eyes and their body language told me.

Women are not in the game to make you happy. It’s easier to have an AT 40 hit than to have a happy marriage.

Women only look for the provider (aka slave) in you. And anything else they say is “acted”, lied and “just for show”. To keep you in the dark about you real purpose FOR HER. And to fool you into thinking that she loves you. So you do not “smell the betrayal” and bail out of the relations~~~ before signing the stranglehold contract, aka marriage.

Getting you upset, sad and frustrated will make it easier for them to control you.

That’s why women always saw with suspicion that I am happy without any drugs or alcohol. I am harder to control, actually uncontrollable because I never needed a woman to fix my life. (As a child, I had to do the part of the household and life is definitely easier “c~~~-free”!)

Once they get “p~~~ed off” and try to control me with their bad temper… I show them what I can do (like 200 km/h on a normal road, routine for me, death fear for them), they never try to control me again.

I give them the choice which of the 3 doors out of my place they want to take…

Today, my will to invest any effort in meeting up with a woman is gone. The truth has conquered my last “little dreams” and I found an even higher state of peace.

Women are not worth it. Give them cats so they can torture them instead of me.

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[hadenough1969Participant 539]

Looking in the eyes is the key…there is no joy there regardless of what they may say out of habit or compulsion.

They are dead.

For those who remember my former posts, I continue my walk through hell also known as divorce.

Every day a trial, another punch to the stomach, another hit across the face. I dread opening my mail or email. There are always more demands, more bills from the lawyer more things that “might” happen to further ruin me. After months of living in limbo I just received a court date for mediation. Now I am to spend days filling out reports of why we can’t come to an agreement and why mediation is necessary and what items we can’t agree on. This after countless hours of answering other interrogatories. They force you to relive it over and over. Day and night it is always there, you are always in “fight mode” trying to think of another angle or example you might be able to use in the court battle. It is absolutely exhausting.

Unable to gain any peace, any resolution, or even any brief relief from the endless emotional and mental turmoil the nightmares now continue when I try to sleep. I find myself staying up far too late, afraid of what awaits me in my dreams.

You live in a constant state of loss. Every week having to sell another source of happiness that I worked so long and hard to pay for, now turned into pennies on the dollar that I must give to her. While she is as close to an example of Satan as I have ever met in human form, the government that allows…no…. FORCES this upon a man is surely ultimate evil personified. The government and law makes slaves of all men. Alas I am too weak and beaten down now to fight either.

I used to think that just surviving would be victory. Now I wonder if there is even a point to surviving. Stripped of everything, with only a few years left of life, encased with sickness and disease from the unrelenting stress of this darkness and yet compelled by this evil empire to labor on for HER until my breath stops….what is the point of surviving?

In the depths of my soul I have began to seriously wonder if this planet is not truly hell and that perhaps I did something in a former life, a former time, or perhaps a former dimension that resulted in my banishment to this existence.

[KeymasterKeymaster]

hadenough1969 wrote:

It occurred to me yesterday that I have never 1 time in over 4 decades of life heard anyone say, “I am a happily married man”.

Excellent observation. My father included.

People have NO PROBLEM recommending a good restaurant or a great movie, but no man will tell you “being married is great”. In The Untouchables, Kevin Costner said “It’s nice to be married, huh”, and that was the only time I ever heard it. In a scripted movie line.

Even if you did hear a man say it, he would be lying. This woman is “Happily Married Dreaming of Divorce” – and miserable likening marriage to a “period of high irritation” – because her “Happily Married” husband still greets her ungrateful ass with a SMILE in the morning after 16 years of busting his ass to make her “happy”.

Even if he THINKS he’s “happily married”, he’s deceiving himself.

Because WORLDWIDE, we know – even in lesbian relationships which divorce 165% more often – when women have their own means (including collecting a payout), they initiate divorce like gangbusters. They don’t even WANT to be there. So the “happily married” man is living a lie.

If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.

[Point Of No ReturnParticipant 4074]

hadenough1969 wrote:

Looking in the eyes is the key…there is no joy there regardless of what they may say out of habit or compulsion.

They are dead.

For those who remember my former posts, I continue my walk through hell also known as divorce.

Every day a trial, another punch to the stomach, another hit across the face. I dread opening my mail or email. There are always more demands, more bills from the lawyer more things that “might” happen to further ruin me. After months of living in limbo I just received a court date for mediation. Now I am to spend days filling out reports of why we can’t come to an agreement and why mediation is necessary and what items we can’t agree on. This after countless hours of answering other interrogatories. They force you to relive it over and over. Day and night it is always there, you are always in “fight mode” trying to think of another angle or example you might be able to use in the court battle. It is absolutely exhausting.

Unable to gain any peace, any resolution, or even any brief relief from the endless emotional and mental turmoil the nightmares now continue when I try to sleep. I find myself staying up far too late, afraid of what awaits me in my dreams.

You live in a constant state of loss. Every week having to sell another source of happiness that I worked so long and hard to pay for, now turned into pennies on the dollar that I must give to her. While she is as close to an example of Satan as I have ever met in human form, the government that allows…no…. FORCES this upon a man is surely ultimate evil personified. The government and law makes slaves of all men. Alas I am too weak and beaten down now to fight either.

I used to think that just surviving would be victory. Now I wonder if there is even a point to surviving. Stripped of everything, with only a few years left of life, encased with sickness and disease from the unrelenting stress of this darkness and yet compelled by this evil empire to labor on for HER until my breath stops….what is the point of surviving?

In the depths of my soul I have began to seriously wonder if this planet is not truly hell and that perhaps I did something in a former life, a former time, or perhaps a former dimension that resulted in my banishment to this existence.

I’m not going through what seems to me as pure hell in your case. I am however ‘in trouble’ because of divorce proceedings and find it hard nowadays to keep a semblance of a normal life. I also now dread the mailbox and my emails never knowing if my lawyers plans are actually going to help defend my case. I can’t imagine what you must be feeling. The legal system is abusive and unfair and I have little respect for their elements now.

Know when it is your duty to give them zero explanations for your actions.

[Anonymous 42]

hadenough1969 wrote:

It occurred to me yesterday that I have never 1 time in over 4 decades of life heard anyone say, “I am a happily married man”.

Clearly the males species is believing a lie propagandized by agents of darkness.

I’ve heard it said on TV shows back when I used to flip through channels like a one-arm-bandit!

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

Hadenough, I read your previous threads and your story makes me sad. But you are not alone. What you go through is just “standard divorce rape procedure”.

But you put it in the right words and we thank you for sharing your story. Every man on this earth should read up on it and surely your posts will help saving brother’s lives.

I have never been married so I can only give “theoretical advice” but women “got me” starting as a child. And for me it was 23 years of swallowing c~~~ insults, shaming, yelling, aggression outbursts and – as you say – “Being in constant fight mode”.

I grew up in constant fight mode because of “the weaker sex” (hahahahaha)

I just predict that at some point in the future there will come a time when men will not swallow legal s~~~ from women peacefully anymore. But before I would throw myself off of a bridge, I would give it a try to make her go first…

If my sister – 8-years older than me – (like an adult against a toddler) would have attacked me just “a little more” fiercely than she did, I would have stopped it somehow. I guess she wouldn’t be pretty anymore…

But it was that critical. One time, years ago I even said out loud: “Good that I didn’t ruin her face so she got a boyfriend that took her away…”

So good that I didn’t defend myself too effectively. An ugly sister with scars in her face would have been here way longer and so I am glad she is gone since 1979.

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[hadenough1969Participant 539]

Gargamel,

You reminded me of something I had forgotten. As she is a narc and at some point, after she has taken all she can from me, she will find another victim to drain the life from. They must constantly feed. If she wins eternal alimony from me and my health collapses to the point I can no longer work, what then will she do?

Does anyone know if you can you be put in prison for failing to pay alimony?

[hadenough1969Participant 539]

Surprise, surprise…I looked it up. Failure to pay alimony will put you in contempt of court and can result in your incarceration.

[GargamelSpectator 29101]

hadenough1969 wrote:

Surprise, surprise…I looked it up. Failure to pay alimony will put you in contempt of court and can result in your incarceration.

Yes, but if you are “sick enough” and have a doctors statement (sick leave or permanent disability) then they can’t hurt you. Depending on what illness you have, their hands will be tied. If you can’t work, then you can’t pay and then all goes to welfare.

Punish the hell out of the system if you can.

So if your marriage was so traumatic that you came down with “depression” (Diagnosis WHO ICD Code F 32.2) then you are unable to work and they can’t jail you as a sick man.

Find the right psycho doctor that will officially attest this for you and “depression” is not a “2 week illness”. It will give you years “of time to recover” from your trauma.

F 32.2 is total “invalidity” so they can’t hold you accountable.

And I guess you won’t have to “simulate”…

She made you sick, I guess. And now the horse needs a vet. And this horse will not run races for her anymore…

Smile and turn in your “sick notice”… She will go bonkers… but no chance against an official doctor’s attestation.

In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

[PuniShredderParticipant 2268]

hadenough1969 wrote:

Looking in the eyes is the key…there is no joy there regardless of what they may say out of habit or compulsion.

They are dead.

For those who remember my former posts, I continue my walk through hell also known as divorce.

Every day a trial, another punch to the stomach, another hit across the face. I dread opening my mail or email. There are always more demands, more bills from the lawyer more things that “might” happen to further ruin me. After months of living in limbo I just received a court date for mediation. Now I am to spend days filling out reports of why we can’t come to an agreement and why mediation is necessary and what items we can’t agree on. This after countless hours of answering other interrogatories. They force you to relive it over and over. Day and night it is always there, you are always in “fight mode” trying to think of another angle or example you might be able to use in the court battle. It is absolutely exhausting.

Unable to gain any peace, any resolution, or even any brief relief from the endless emotional and mental turmoil the nightmares now continue when I try to sleep. I find myself staying up far too late, afraid of what awaits me in my dreams.

You live in a constant state of loss. Every week having to sell another source of happiness that I worked so long and hard to pay for, now turned into pennies on the dollar that I must give to her. While she is as close to an example of Satan as I have ever met in human form, the government that allows…no…. FORCES this upon a man is surely ultimate evil personified. The government and law makes slaves of all men. Alas I am too weak and beaten down now to fight either.

I used to think that just surviving would be victory. Now I wonder if there is even a point to surviving. Stripped of everything, with only a few years left of life, encased with sickness and disease from the unrelenting stress of this darkness and yet compelled by this evil empire to labor on for HER until my breath stops….what is the point of surviving?

In the depths of my soul I have began to seriously wonder if this planet is not truly hell and that perhaps I did something in a former life, a former time, or perhaps a former dimension that resulted in my banishment to this existence.

Jesus Christ man why don’t you just sign everything over to her including custody and f~~~ing walk away? Let it go…f~~~ her let her wallow in her own self misery. If you have kids f~~~ em! write them off it’s not worth your life when I come back around later in life you could show the reality of what happened to you.

Be professional be polite but always have a plan to kill everyone you meet.

[Jack HarperParticipant 2863]

hadenough1969 wrote:

Gargamel,

You reminded me of something I had forgotten. As she is a narc and at some point, after she has taken all she can from me, she will find another victim to drain the life from. They must constantly feed. If she wins eternal alimony from me and my health collapses to the point I can no longer work, what then will she do?

Does anyone know if you can you be put in prison for failing to pay alimony?

Indeed she will move on to a new source of supply. My ex was also NPD as I believe I’ve mentioned before. Her new guy we knew before she had her affair with him. For the most part he seemed like a decent guy (other than f~~~ing a married woman – my ex) but my kids are complaining more and more. Now one thing I think I always saw clearly was it was her who engineered events. She is the one who got their affair going and seduced him. I was a little angry at him but I understood. And for the most part he has been decent to my kids but she takes her toll and my kids are starting to complain more and more that he is becoming angry and different and yelling and throwing things. It took her over a decade to break me but he isn’t holding in there as long. I don’t have to feel too bad though since, again he did have an affair with a married woman. Also if things get to bad my kids have a place to come to, I can provide a stable environment.

Gargamel wrote:

hadenough1969 wrote:

Surprise, surprise…I looked it up. Failure to pay alimony will put you in contempt of court and can result in your incarceration.

Yes, but if you are “sick enough” and have a doctors statement (sick leave or permanent disability) then they can’t hurt you. Depending on what illness you have, their hands will be tied. If you can’t work, then you can’t pay and then all goes to welfare.

Punish the hell out of the system if you can.

So if your marriage was so traumatic that you came down with “depression” (Diagnosis WHO ICD Code F 32.2) then you are unable to work and they can’t jail you as a sick man.

Find the right psycho doctor that will officially attest this for you and “depression” is not a “2 week illness”. It will give you years “of time to recover” from your trauma.

F 32.2 is total “invalidity” so they can’t hold you accountable.

And I guess you won’t have to “simulate”…

She made you sick, I guess. And now the horse needs a vet. And this horse will not run races for her anymore…

Smile and turn in your “sick notice”… She will go bonkers… but no chance against an official doctor’s attestation.

Unfortunately, I can say from experience this may not be good advice. I have suffered from clinical depression since I was a teenager and it didn’t get me s~~~. Basically when I brought up the fact that I was devastated and suicidal the state psychologists ruled I could get a less stressful job but I was still obligated for the same amount of child support. Your state attorney general’s office is no friend to you, I assure you.

PuniShredder wrote:

hadenough1969 wrote:

Looking in the eyes is the key…there is no joy there regardless of what they may say out of habit or compulsion.

They are dead.

For those who remember my former posts, I continue my walk through hell also known as divorce.

Every day a trial, another punch to the stomach, another hit across the face. I dread opening my mail or email. There are always more demands, more bills from the lawyer more things that “might” happen to further ruin me. After months of living in limbo I just received a court date for mediation. Now I am to spend days filling out reports of why we can’t come to an agreement and why mediation is necessary and what items we can’t agree on. This after countless hours of answering other interrogatories. They force you to relive it over and over. Day and night it is always there, you are always in “fight mode” trying to think of another angle or example you might be able to use in the court battle. It is absolutely exhausting.

Unable to gain any peace, any resolution, or even any brief relief from the endless emotional and mental turmoil the nightmares now continue when I try to sleep. I find myself staying up far too late, afraid of what awaits me in my dreams.

You live in a constant state of loss. Every week having to sell another source of happiness that I worked so long and hard to pay for, now turned into pennies on the dollar that I must give to her. While she is as close to an example of Satan as I have ever met in human form, the government that allows…no…. FORCES this upon a man is surely ultimate evil personified. The government and law makes slaves of all men. Alas I am too weak and beaten down now to fight either.

I used to think that just surviving would be victory. Now I wonder if there is even a point to surviving. Stripped of everything, with only a few years left of life, encased with sickness and disease from the unrelenting stress of this darkness and yet compelled by this evil empire to labor on for HER until my breath stops….what is the point of surviving?

In the depths of my soul I have began to seriously wonder if this planet is not truly hell and that perhaps I did something in a former life, a former time, or perhaps a former dimension that resulted in my banishment to this existence.

Jesus Christ man why don’t you just sign everything over to her including custody and f~~~ing walk away? Let it go…f~~~ her let her wallow in her own self misery. If you have kids f~~~ em! write them off it’s not worth your life when I come back around later in life you could show the reality of what happened to you.

This is actually decent advice. If it’s too stressful you may have to walk away and hope that later your kids will understand. The immediate concern is you have to focus on yourself. You’re no good to your kids if your very soul is chipped away to the point that you can’t go on and become suicidal.

[Jack HarperParticipant 2863]

Like Gargamel said it’s generally ‘cheaper to keep her’ scenarios.

Which, honestly is still sad to me. I had really hoped when I was younger i’d find that special woman who’d love me for me and no matter what and we’d build a life together. Getting force fed the red pill (divorce rape) is not fun.

It seems like the only marriages that are always happy are in the movies.

I was thinking recently it’s interesting that women seem to so much want to have what those couples have who have a fiftieth weeding anniversary. The thing is those people are from a different generation with different social mores and in my experience the women accepted what most of us men realize early on. Those initial ‘i’m in love/romantic’ ‘feelings’ only last a few years and after that you have to dig in and build a partnership to build a life together and understand that it won’t always be easy. Women these days just do not understand.

[WallyParticipant]

During a meeting with another 30 men, all married, I was the only single man at a church I used to attend, none of the men admitted they were happy and sex was lacking in all. The speaker tried to sell the idea that marriage had little to do with sex. I broke up with my girlfriend of two months shortly there after, the only reason she first noticed me was that I was tall and thin, qualities she wanted.

Let me repeat, 30 Christian married men and none happy. There is no happiness in marriage, we have but one life gentlemen, do things your way. A happily married man is about as common as a female unicorn.

"what a waste of a life, to marry, give up your freedom, just for the hope of not dying alone. Don't get married Son."

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