Grandparents Sued For Child Support(WTF!?)

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  • #702896
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    Prophet Micah
    Prophet Micah
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    1972

    Don’t recall seeing this posted so here it is. I was listening to a Misandry Today podcast and he mentioned this case and it spun me into a world of p~~~ed off I’ve never been in before.
    The thought of my brothers 2 bitches being able to go after my parents for child support if something happens to him. This will start a f~~~ing war.

    https://ca.news.yahoo.com/north-bay-grandparents-being-sued-100100321.html

    Two North Bay grandparents are being sued for child support in a case that could be precedent-setting.

    Denise Deforge and Conrad Hunter will be in court Friday to fight a claim that they should pay $760 a month to the mother of their 10-year-old granddaughter.

    She is also seeking $47,000 going back to when the girl’s father, Deforge and Hunter’s son, died in an accident in 2013.

    “We love her to pieces, and we’d do anything for her. But she’s not our child. It’s not our job to pay child support payments,” says Deforge.

    ‘Never ever should a grandparent be obligated to pay child support because they want to do what’s best for their grandchild.”

    The lawyer of the mother wouldn’t comment on the specifics of the case before the trial, but did say he plans to argue that Deforge and Hunter have been more than grandparents to this girl and should pay child support.

    Toronto-based family lawyer John Schuman says the case could set a precedent because of the expanding rights of grandparents in custody matters and the grey area that currently exists.

    ‘Open up the floodgate’

    Grandparents are very occasionally required by court to make child support payments when they are determined to “stand in for a parent,” which in most cases occurs because they have custody of the child.

    No Wife - No Strife

    #702898
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    Nomad82
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    Holy. S~~~.

    As a payer myself, I couldn’t even imagine my father being slapped with some BS like this if anything ever happened to me. He has been through enough, and fulfilled his title as father raising me.

    I am going to watch this closely. Thank you for the share, this is really important.

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    #702908
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    Romulus
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    Well let’s see….they have successfully extended this to make men pay child support for children that are not even theirs. They have made step-fathers pay child support for long after the marriage has ended. They have made serious inroads in to making men who cohabitate with a woman pay child support for kids that are not theirs…..once the relationships ends. I’m not so surprised Grandparents would be next.

    A modest proposal….let’s just save everyone the time and money of going through all the rigged legal motions, which just clogs up our court and cut to the chase.

    Levy a gender tax on all males 18 or older that then can be collected in to a pool……..and doled out to women of child bearing years. You’re male you pay, you’re female, you get paid. That’s where this is all heading anyway.

    How can a woman be expected to be happy with a man who insists on treating her as if she were a perfectly normal human being.

    #702911
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    OldBill
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    It was posted before but disappeared in the Christmas lull. It’s worth posting again.

    The grandparents had custody of the child for several months while both their s~~~head son and the c~~~ he knocked up were unable to care for her. “Unable to care for” apparently meaning “too busy finding, buying, and ingesting drugs”.

    Now, because they were caring human beings for a period of time, the c~~~’s lawyer thinks she can pin child support on them. Not just continuing support, but also the tens of thousands their s~~~head son was in arrears for before dying.

    It’s Canada, so who knows what is going to happen.

    Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

    #702912
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    Prophet Micah
    Prophet Micah
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    1972

    I am going to watch this closely. Thank you for the share, this is really important.

    Every man in this country should be sweating b~~~~. How does this even GET to trial!? This is a new kind of FUBAR. The feminist entitled mindset unleashed.

    No Wife - No Strife

    #702913
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    Foghornleghorn
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    Never underestimate a woman’s greed.

    #702915
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    OldBill
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    Every man in this country should be sweating b~~~~.

    Do you live in Canada?

    Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

    #702921
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    Ranger One
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    2 logical solutions for this sort of problem occur to me:

    #1) Ice the scummy mother that is the problem.

    #2) Ice the scummy politicians and judges perpetuating the injustices.

    My philosophy on life is “give me liberty or give me death”.

    Concurrent with this, is “death to those who enslave others”.

    In another note, I feel sorry for Canadian military vets that sacrificed anything for a country that is not worth defending.

    All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

    #702930
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    Faust For Science
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    Every man in this country should be sweating b~~~~. How does this even GET to trial!? This is a new kind of FUBAR. The feminist entitled mindset unleashed.

    I am not worried. This like the metoo movement is destroying what little respect men have left of women.

    No respect lead to no authority.

    At this rate the women will soon start to claim childsupport on the rich man for the bastard children of the rich man’s brother or cousin. This will not last. This will collapse the whole childsupport and alimony system.

    If the collapse hits hard enough might end up that abortion might be made illegal but being a single mother will get a woman jailed for child abuse, with the children she birthed becoming wards of the state to be adopted by couples.

    #702931
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    Ranger One
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    Every man in this country should be sweating b~~~~.

    Do you live in Canada?

    If that s~~~ ends up passing muster in Canada, it will probably only be a matter of time before a libtard, socialist gynocentric state like California or Massachussetts follows suit.

    All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

    #702932
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    Prophet Micah
    Prophet Micah
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    1972

    Do you live in Canada?

    NOPE, but if it happens up there it will soon be seen here in the U.S. That’s the way it’s always been.

    No Wife - No Strife

    #702934
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    Faust For Science
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    In such a situation as this it is black men in the ghettos that need to worry the money. These black men might end if being declared slaves to the state to pay for the bastard children their mothers and sisters pump out.

    Of course it will be the yankee leftist coastal states in New England and the West Coast support.

    It would be supreme irony if the south rose again to free black men from such yankee bondage.

    #702935
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    OldBill
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    NOPE, but if it happens up there it will soon be seen here in the U.S. That’s the way it’s always been.

    Not in my experience, but your opinions are your own.

    Do not date. Do not impregnate. Do not co-habitate. Above all, do not marry. Reclaim and never again surrender your personal sovereignty.

    #702986
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    Swimcat
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    Like everything else in this f~~~ed up legal system, its not who is at fault, its who can pay.

    #703017
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    Ranger One
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    Like everything else in this f~~~ed up legal system, its not who is at fault, its who can pay.

    People need to start saying “NO” to the system when it is unjust and out of control.

    If someone’s grandparent got imprisoned because of not paying child support for a grandkid (that someone’s neice or nephew), then that someone should impose justice on the judge responsible for that decision.

    If enough of them were made to take dirt naps, I suspect we would see judges wising up. Just a thought.

    In general, I think we are all brainwashed by society.

    It is considered honorable by society to defend “freedom” by putting a 5.56×45 round through the skull of some person from a 3rd world country that you never met before, but you are considered a monster if you do the same thing to a scumbag in your own country defending your own personal freedom from tyranny.

    Sounds to me like brainwashing.

    “There is no one so truly enslaved as someone that falsely believes that they are free” – Goethe.

    Warren Ferrell accurately pointed out that men are treated like the disposable sex. My response to a society that treats me like this is “F~~~ you”.

    All my life I've had doubts about who I am, where I belonged. Now I'm like the arrow that springs from the bow. No hesitation, no doubts. The path is clear. And what are you? Alive. Everything else is negotiable. Women have rights; men have responsibilities; MGTOW have freedom. Marriage is for chumps. If someone stands in the way of true justice, you simply walk up behind them and stab them in the heart-R'as al Ghul.

    #703030
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    Narwhal
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    The key fact here is not that they are Grandparents, but because they had custody of the child at one time. It’s the same rule that hooks men into paying support for kids that are not their own.

    It’s not even limited to child support. If you take partial responsibility for helping out your fellow man/woman, you run the risk of becoming financially responsible for everything. This happen when my father was dying in a nursing home. Even though I was not financially tied to him, I got sent bills. I was tempted to pay some just to improve his living conditions, but the reality is that I would have been overloaded with ALL bills and legally responsible for them if I paid a cent.

    Same goes if you attempt to give a stranger CPR. You run the risk of being sued. We have created a society where no one will risk helping anyone else.

    Ok. Then do it.

    #703036
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    Sidecar
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    Grandparents are very occasionally required by court to make child support payments when they are determined to “stand in for a parent,” which in most cases occurs because they have custody of the child.

    Wait a second.

    If they have custody, why the f~~~ would the be paying child support?

    Also notice how in this particular case, during the time when the grandparents were caring for their grandchild, the mother was never required to pay child support to them?

    Well let’s see….they have successfully extended this to make men pay child support for children that are not even theirs. They have made step-fathers pay child support for long after the marriage has ended. They have made serious inroads in to making men who cohabitate with a woman pay child support for kids that are not theirs…..once the relationships ends. I’m not so surprised Grandparents would be next.

    When my sister had her third child taken away from her they tried to place the baby with me. I straight up refused. A lot of people thought that was cold, but it was the right decision. My cousin and his then girlfriend took her on because she came with a monthly check from child services. And they raised her for almost three years until the courts awarded her back to my sister who finally managed to fake enough drug tests.

    Guess who’s paying child support now?

    #703043
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    Gargamel
    Gargamel
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    One more reason to never have children.

    In July of 2018, this honey pot forum was sold out to an unidentified NPC sock puppet and troll organization. Most independent thinkers and writers migrated to other MGTOW forums as a result of the never-ending infighting and deliberate trouble starting caused by members who were given "carte blanche" by the admin to do whatever they want. Before my departure, I only left a few thousand cat pics here to comfort and ridicule the feminist owners who now run this place. Their background agenda is to make MGTOW look like a club of losers the public eye. And during the course of 2019, they actually managed to destroy almost all other MGTOW venues as well. Here is the truth about "theindependentman.org" aka "TIM" which was created as an extended workbench to further divide the community. When you register, they install a spyware Zombie cookie on your browser that does all kinds of things the user does not know of: http://www.filedropper.com/essay-on-the-removal-of-malware-cookies-used-by-tim

    #703058
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    Puffin Stuff
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    The child support system functions like a Turkish mob. If they can’t get it from you because your dead, they come after your family.

    I blame it on the grandparents. Had they stuck to the role of “Grandparents”, they would live a nice quiet life not missing a girl that their boy made with some slut bag and gave her a baby.

    Their avarice at demanding to make the mother in any way compromise “her” child by letting them visit with “those” strangers.

    This woman just kept them on the hook until she thought it sunk deep in her prey.

    But there is some hope in sight. They seem to be aware that she is blackmailing them into not seeing their grandaughter.

    They may say f~~~ you.

    Lesson for men going their own way:

    Want to break your parents hearts? Give a woman your child.

    #icethemout; Remember Thomas Ball. He died for your children.

    #703087
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    Anonymous
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    The assumption is that someone else needs to pay in addition to the primary caretaker.

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