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He just got back to us again. He’s in Puerto Rico. He was clear he wasn’t asking for money or anything, but mostly guidance, advice and support – and a lawyer or someone to legally be in his corner. I suggested he try AVFM (or some such entity) and explained the difference between MRAs and MGTOW is the MGTOW will assume his own agency and never even PERMIT himself to be in a situation like this.
I have forwarded Sidecar’s reply to him too.
(thanks)Men who accept abuse are complicit in their situation. There’s the door. Use it.
Exactly what I told him.
I have concerns that MRA end up getting fed up with MGTOW not joining on board with all they are doing, so they end up being against MGTOW. Same happens with the PUA. If MRA can help here, that would be beneficial, but it seems like they are far more into changing laws than actually doing real support without government involvement. I could be wrong here, but that is my take on it.
"I am my own thang. Any questions?" - Davis S Pumpkins.
I have concerns that MRA end up getting fed up with MGTOW not joining on board with all they are doing, so they end up being against MGTOW.
Of course they are against MGTOW.
MRA:
• Man meets girl
• Man dates girl
• Man moves in with girl
• Man marries girl
• Man gets f~~~ing destroyed, charged with false allegations of abuse and life is made a living hell, gets threaten with prison, character assassinations, and children are used as ransom and leverage against him.
• Men becomes “MRA” to try and fix the situation.MGTOW
“No”.
Problem solved.
Don’t like MGTOW? Appreciate the compliment. MRA is a “men’s rights activist”. Now try being your own agent for a change and that’s how s~~~ gets done. That’s why MGTOW is skyrocketing and AVFM has gone into cardiac arrest. MRAs are like weight watchers or Jenny Craig. Take the fork out of your mouth , hit the gym and you never have to call them ONCE.
You know why no woman ever filed a false “abuse” accusation against me? Because I wouldn’t even permit her to bring me to the point of raising my voice at her. If she is not a warm blanket to you, and greets you with a smile, soft touch and lovely demeanour…. DUMP. THAT. BITCH. And you will never need an MRA in your life. They shouldn’t even exist!!!
Women who want to deliberately destroy you – while living with you – shouldn’t even exist either, But good luck expecting them to know right from wrong. I don’t expect any other men to fix the problem when a woman is a bitch to me.
MGTOW saves lives too. We just do it another way.
MRAs hate MGTOW because MGTOW make them obsolete.When you are on a aeroplane and they give the safety information they tell you that if there is an emergency the oxygen masks will drop. They tell you that you need to put on your own oxygen mask before seeing to your child.
A million % yes.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
Anonymous5In my experience when I was involved with a girl I thought “was the one” 3 years ago – as blind as a bat I was pouring money into our relationship without any return. It had me at the point I was afraid to ask for some finical pitch, than out of the bloom she literally took 500$ out of my wallet and disappeared later to have her dad who I got along quite well give me the money (am not sure it was even the bills she took they were in 20’s he give them to me in hundreds) I still never had the chance to tell her off – but ultimately I got lucky with such brief ending to 4 year relationship of me being a bitch. Reading this further more aids to my view point of getting involved with a women. I mean that occurrence made me bitter – But that along with other events lead me to search for a place like this and now I feel i got a laser fence around me. With auto turrets. To think from this poor mans experience!- Well I got to be careful.
Anonymous11If she is not a warm blanket to you, and greets you with a smile, soft touch and lovely demeanour…. DUMP. THAT. BITCH.
Key, that single sentence contains some serious sagacity. We’ve still got to lookout for being manipulated, but she can only suppress the hidden bitch for a very short time.
Key, that single sentence contains some serious sagacity. We’ve still got to lookout for being manipulated, but she can only suppress the hidden bitch for a very short time.
An excellent point. There’s also alot of that “we just had sex a few times so we’re in a “relationship” now” nonsense out there. But why anyone would even tHINK about being in a relationship before at least 9-12 months (of having plenty of good times with her) is beyond any comprehension. And letting her move in until you’ve known her for at least 2 years? STOOPID!
Women can’t keep that s~~~ up for that long.
I was dating a girl maybe 10 times in 3 weeks. Over breakfast she says “so I guess that means we’re in a relationship now”.
WTF?
So I asked her “what’s my middle name?”. She never asked. She never asked anything about me . Where I went to school. How many brothers and sisters I have. Who my friends are. And she thinks we’re in a RELATIONSHIP now? So I pointed this out and she gets all nervous like “um gee ooh aah….. ” like she doesn’t give a S~~~ about the guy… just as long as she can change her “relationship status” on Facebook. F~~~ed.
Men need to be ALOT more discerning and the guy I mentioned above was living with her for 4 years and KNEW the kids weren’t his putting up with all kinds of psycho behavior.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
Anonymous11And letting her move in until you’ve known her for at least 2 years? STOOPID!
My mom said never to get seriously involved or even married with someone you’ve not known for two years. Just because, you’ve hooked up does not a relationship make. My mother’s generation would go on dates, and if it did not work out they’d introduce them to their friends if they were not creeps. I’m talking mid to late 1940s here.
This meet and f~~~ immediately hookup culture is at the root of a lot of this which I participated in though no longer as it led to nothing but trouble for me. Thanks feminists!!!!! There are women you meet and just f~~~. We call them prostitutes .
I was dating a girl maybe 10 times in 3 weeks. Over breakfast she says “so I guess that means we’re in a relationship now”.
WTF?
I heartily concur.
Now back to Stealthy MGTOW’s advice of spending time coding instead of wasting it on women.
How do you even let it GET there?
I think it’s a frog boiler. I’ve said before you never meet the real woman for the first time until after you sign on the dotted line, but I also don’t think you meet her all at once. She doesn’t let out her inner bitch all at once the moment you carry her over the threshold (do people still do that?) or the day the honeymoon is over. She only lets her real self show gradually.
With all the propaganda out there trying to fool men into getting married, it should be no surprise that young men still get tricked into signing on the dotted line. That’s changing as more and more men learn from other men’s mistakes, and MGTOW certainly do their part there, but it hasn’t reached every man yet, especially men in places like Puerto Rico. At first the marriage seems fine, nice and cool, but once the woman has her frog in her pot she starts to turn up the heat every so slowly that it takes him years to notice he’s being boiled alive, and many men don’t even notice then.
So I can understand how many men can find themselves in this situation a few years into a marriage.
What I don’t understand are the ones who, after escaping marriage, go back and get married AGAIN!
What the f~~~ is up with that? A naïve kid getting trapped into matrimony because he doesn’t know any better is one thing, but men who have been through that wringer damn well should know better. It really is a case of fool him once, shame on her; fool him twice, shame on him.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/SPY-CAMERA-HIDDEN-CAR-KEY/dp/B004APVJLA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1440424470&sr=8-1&keywords=key+fob+recorder
A million thanks. This looks almost ideal. It might be hard to get video with it always, but it will still get audio even if the camera is blocked, and the occasional video should be a bonus. I’m considering getting one just to play with it. The amazon page says it doesn’t ship to the U.S., though. I don’t know if Puerto Rico is included in that. However I don’t doubt that other vendors are available.
For God’s sake, these kinds of pleas for help are not a sign of feminism working! This is oppression. Get the hell out of that mess. It’s bad enough we’ve foolishly given women money, status, power and fame over men in the professional realm only for them to abuse it, but when this dominance hits the four walls of the home, it spells disaster. Women manipulate, twist, fold, turn, invert, freaking transmutate the truth of anything to fit their agenda and control you and the situation. My heart bleeds for this guy that it took him this long to realize how vindictive the female spirit can be. This is red pill overdose for me.
I have discovered a truly remarkable list of reasons why women are not necessary for a happy life, but alas this margin is too small to contain it.
Recorders
There are some off the self video recorders that you can buy.
nest.com has a video/audio recorder for $200.00. The problems is that you cannot save your streamed video without having a cloud account for $10.00/month for the first and $5.00/month thereafter.
Google bought it so I understand why they are scalping for cloud accounts.
However, there are other cameras that have good audio and video and save the recording to a local SD card.
If you are going to embark upon implicating a female in a domestic violence/abuse situation, video will be the nail in the coffin.
"I asked you a question. I didn't ask you to repeat what the voices in you head are telling you" ~ Me. ........Yes I'm still angry.
For God’s sake, these kinds of pleas for help are not a sign of feminism working! This is oppression.
So is any relationship with a female . Work, professional, “professional”…. they’re all the same. Don’t like the taste of kool-aid so you want to add some more flavor to the mix? Prepare for a wailing siren of bulls~~~ going off in your ear. That’s assault and that’s oppression. That’s a forced dictatorship through the forced threat of violence. That’s a marriage to any female. “Do this or else….” including withheld sex and affection – whether it’s applicable or not!
“Fix the bathroom tiles honey, or there will be no nookie for you tonight”.
A hostage in your own marriage to a terrorist. That’s what it is.If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
Anonymous1I have concerns that MRA end up getting fed up with MGTOW not joining on board with all they are doing, so they end up being against MGTOW.
We are already there. You see now several MRA’s that once made fun of Mgtow, now claiming to be one and trying to redefine what “going your own way” means. Pro tip: according to these people, whatever it is it should not exclude or be “suspicious” of women (because, NAWALT). Which in itself defies the whole purpose of minding your own life
Regardless, getting back to the point, usually, if it is just a couple, I tend not to feel that sorry. The thing that gets to me is when there are children involved and the women use them as shield. That is sick, and there is nothing anyone (not MRA or Mgtow) can do.
I have no absolute say for this man since I have never been in this kind of situation. However, I will say this. He needs to get the f~~~ out before it gets worse, because the longer he takes the abuse, the worse off he will be.
To quote Machiavelli:
“In answer to your question about digital voice recorders, this is the one I use and it has been very good and reliable:Just keep it in your pocket. Batteries last ages and with a good size memory card you can record for ages. Just back it up to cloud storage regularly.
I’ve also used this (whilst the video is quite good quality the camera is not wide angle enough and usually doesnt catch what you’re trying to point it at”
I also personally own a small spy camera and it’s pretty reliable. It’s more expensive than the camera you listed, but it has very sharp 1080p video (the audio is acceptable, but not anything mind-blowing). It’s called a mobius camera, and it roughly only 2x1x1 inches in size which makes it ideal for recording hidden footage. It can even be used as a dashboard camera.
Mobius with wide angle lens
http://www.amazon.com/Angle-Mobius-ActionCam-Camera-Memory/dp/B00GPUIUAG/ref=sr_1_4?&ie=UTF8&qid=1440459086&sr=8-4&keywords=mobius+camera+lens+cAnother thing that is awesome with this camera is that it is highly mod-able. If you open the case, the camera will allow you to remove the lens screwed in the ccd housing and replace it with another lens. It will accept almost any cctv lens you can find online.
I have the voice recording app on the home screen of my iPhone. Top right corner so I can find it easily, or press it while its in my pocket. It’s included with the phone/ OS just like the camera. Ive been using it ever since a chick got difficult with me on a date once. She did something unacceptable and when I expressed my displeasure… she said “OK you’re really SCARING me right now”.
A good time to PUSH THAT BUTTON.
you know… “for quality assurance purposes”.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.
Anonymous29I she said “OK you’re really SCARING me right now”.
Funny that . . . . . I wonder how long before pubs, bars and nightclubs will be required by law to have safe spaces because of monsters like you.
Ive been using it ever since a chick got difficult with me on a date once. She did something unacceptable and when I expressed my displeasure… she said “OK you’re really SCARING me right now”.
C~~~s like these always do something out of line, but when they are called out on it, they try to deflect it on way or another. Deflect that s~~~ right back and leave with a smile on your face.
C~~~: “OK you’re really SCARING me right now”.
You: “Scared of what? Being exposed for the c~~~ you are?”And for s~~~s and giggles…
C~~~: “OK you’re really SCARING me right now”.
You: “The size of your stomach is scaring me.”I don’t have time to tell you the story, but she was absolutely DANGEROUS. I didn’t even give her a ride home. I was shaking with internal rage by the end of the evening which lasted about 90 minutes total. Im “scaring” her? OK….. so I sent her home in a $75 cab and gave THE DRIVER $20 to call me when he drops her off – with explicit instructions that it’s not to be used towards the fare. She was boiling mad in the back seat. Those words cost her $75.
“I m SCARING you? Then I’d better not give you a ride home, c~~~.”
I made it clear that I was PAYING HIM to phone me.
So I had a record of it that he dumped that toxic bitch off at her own curb,I made SURE she couldn’t nail me for anything.
After that evening.,…. the record button on my Phone is like a gun in my holster.If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.I don’t have time to tell you the story, but she was absolutely DANGEROUS. I didn’t even give her a ride home. I was shaking by the end of the evening which lasted about 90 minutes total. Im “scaring” her? OK….. so I sent her home in a $75 cab and gave THE DRIVER $20 to call me when he drops her off – with explicit instructions that it’s not to be used towards the fare. She was boiling mad in the back seat.
Holy s~~~ Keymaster, may the one from above have mercy on you! If you hadn’t punted the c~~~ on the spot, you can bet that you would’ve been writing this in prison! If I had to make so many precautions to avoid a false allegation like you, I probably would have a nasty scar on my soul. Lets just say you are very very lucky to make it out without a scratch.
It’s disgusting how women can do something so f~~~ing vile, but then have the court and law system side with her and throw you in prison. Just another great reason for me to sail my own way and remove myself from the “dating” pool.
Anonymous25I always stay away from women or around cctv. When I’m out I look for where the cctv is and stand in front of it. I was out with a friend a few years back and a group of girls were messing around and took a friends jacket. Eventually we wanted to leave but she refused to give it back. I asked her to give it back to him. She threatened to accuse me of touching her and call the police on me. I politely and calmly gave her the telling off of her life. I pointed out that we were in licensed premises being a bar and it’s a condition of their licence that they have cctv. I told her everything we are doing will be on cctv and to go ahead and call the police and when they get here I will ask them to view the footage. Then I plan to ask them to arrest her and charge her with making a false allegation and send her to jail. Then I told her that if you don’t phone the police I will unless you give the jacket back and I will count to 3 and if you haven’t given it back I’m calling the police. I counted to 3 and she still hadn’t given it back so I took out my phone and started dialling. The police didn’t even get chance to answer the phone before she quickly gave the jacket back. I doubt she will ever be making that mistake ever again.
Recording ideas: Watches anyone? You have it always at your arm ready to press the button, doesnt need to be placed beforehand like a keyholder or something like that 😉
Just an idea 😛
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