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Hello MGTOW,
I’ve been lurking the forums for about 2 months now and finally decided to join. I’m gonna be fully honest with you: I have NOT given up completely on women yet, so I’m a “low level” MGTOW or smt. Anyway, please hear me out.
First of all, I’m from Brazil, 29 y/o, never married. I have a pretty good job as a lawyer, upper-middle class lifestyle, fulfilling hobbies…life is good, men. I’ve been out of the dating pool for about 2 years now, but not really by choice.
On one hand I believe MGTOW is more of a first world thing…? Or so I thought. In 2017 I saw the divorce rape BOMBS dropping really close. My cousin got cheated on (at the age of 50 something…) and divorce-raped and a friend of the family ALSO got the same rough deal. They didn’t become homeless, but their C~~~S stole half their s~~~. Legally. Despite being treacherous WHORES.
OTOH…I have never been PERSONALLY burned really hard by women. I thought my ex was terrible, but what she did to me (breaking up after I took care of her during her long stay at the Hospital) is NOTHING compared to the viciousness I’ve read on these very forums. And she was otherwise a pretty nice girl…up until the point where she wasn’t. She probably would’ve f~~~ed me over had we been married, tho. I dunno.
Anyways…I’m at a crossroad in my life. I’m only certain that I should follow the “don’t marry, don’t cohabit” rules. But I’m still into the dating game and I’ve no intention of abandoning it for now. I’m also not very open to prostitution, so that limits my choices…
I came to this site because I’m tired of hearing bulls~~~ about how NAWLT and how I’m a f~~~ing loser if I don’t have some nice arm candy to parade around, yadda yadda. But then again, I’m not sure my “I want pussy, but I’m NOT paying more than what’s worth” (current) attitude has a place here…
anyway, that’s my intro. Sorry for spamming your contact. đ
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Welcome brother.
I have NOT given up completely on women yet, so Iâm a âlow levelâ MGTOW or smt.
Nothing wrong with that. Don’t worry about labelling yourself and putting yourself into a level/category. Remember, MGTOW has nothing to do with competition.
I thought my ex was terrible, but what she did to me (breaking up after I took care of her during her long stay at the Hospital) is NOTHING compared to the viciousness Iâve read on these very forums
No matter what you experience, as you can clearly see, there will always be some other poor bastard who has had it worse. We listen to them, learn from them and be grateful for the learning experience.
She probably wouldâve f~~~ed me over had we been married, tho. I dunno.
If she can ditch you right after you cared for her, chances are she will ditch you at any time during a marriage.
But Iâm still into the dating game and Iâve no intention of abandoning it for now
That’s cool, but always plan ahead on what can happen. The last thing you want is to date a chick and end up being tagged as the baby daddy for some other Chad’s kid.
I came to this site because Iâm tired of hearing bulls~~~ about how NAWLT and how Iâm a f~~~ing loser if I donât have some nice arm candy to parade around, yadda yadda. But then again, Iâm not sure my âI want pussy, but Iâm NOT paying more than whatâs worthâ (current) attitude has a place hereâŠ
I myself have been celibate for my entire life and plan to for the remainder of my life, even though I am sexually attracted to women. I have no hate towards women and truly see them for their nature. It is a nature that men CANNOT change. Whether you want pussy or not does not determine whether or not you have a “place here”. All men who are seeking a better quality life and want to help other men, have a place here.
A tranquil mind is neither happy nor sad, it is uninfluenced by external conditions.
Welcome Viva, great real intro. It’s refreshing to read someone like you. Enjoy the forums!
It’s great that you did not need to go bankrupt to learn the truth about modern women.
Iâve been lurking the forums for about 2 months now and finally decided to join. Iâm gonna be fully honest with you: I have NOT given up completely on women yet, so Iâm a âlow levelâ MGTOW or smt. Anyway, please hear me out
AnywaysâŠIâm at a crossroad in my life. Iâm only certain that I should follow the âdonât marry, donât cohabitâ rules
You must own a better Crystal ball than IBem-vindo rapaz!
I was about your age when my “starter wife” threw at me a proverbial grenede, and left me to pick up the pieces of myself and what was left of my life.
I spent a month in Brazil which helped me begin a long healing process. I’ve been back several times since, but Brazil is very different today. Since my last trip last year I’ve noticed Brasileiras have really picked up some bad Western women habits.
I blame the Internet and the spectacular growth of social media.
I eventually married a non-Western woman (my inspiration was the samba “Amelia*” I think from my first trip) because long long before MGTOW was a thing I believed only Western women were like that. My mistake was exposing her to the West, but that’s another post.
*”Amelia nĂŁo tinha melhor rivalidade! AmĂ©lia que era uma mulher de verdade!” [Amelia had no better rival! Amelia was a true woman!] That’s the chorus I think, but my PortuguĂȘs is basic at best. I love the song because part of the lyrics describe the classic narcissistic and gold-digging, Western woman.
And she was otherwise a pretty nice girlâŠup until the point where she wasnât.
Put that above quote in a prominent place you can see it every single day, and you should avoid most of the mistakes I didn’t.
Go your own way. And remember, todas mulheres sĂŁo como assim, eventualmente. [all women are like that, eventually.]
"Love is the delusion that one woman differs from another" - H. L. Mencken
Welcome Viva. Don’t worry about the shaming language. He who laughs last, laughs best. Just wait till those guys are getting divorce raped, or comes home to find their cupcake stole all their s~~~ and disappeared without a trace(actually happened to a friend of mine back in the 80’s). You’ll be the one laughing when you’re 55 and retiring to Aruba!
"Don't follow in my footsteps...I stepped in something."
Welcome bro.
Getting married and then getting burned is not a prerequisite for going your own way.
There are many MGTOW (not all on this website) who have neither been married, nor have been in a relations~~~. Some have never even had sex.If you still want sex, that’s fine. It’s part of going YOUR own way. Just be careful, protect yourself and always plan a million steps ahead.
My brother make you no follow sheeple o. Look them and Go Your Way.Hello Viva.
Donât worry about the shaming language. He who laughs last, laughs best.
THIS!
Men of the Middle Age were not "oppressing" women. They were just SURVIVING.
He who laughs last, laughs best.
This relates to delayed gratification. Most men want instant gratification, thus tend to give in to their blue pill tendencies (i.e. find a girl, parade her around like a prise catch, go b~~~~ deep in her and get married to her). Then they try to validate their blue pill way of life by trying to coerce other men into following what they did.
For blue/purple pill men out there: Delay this gratification and you will see how s~~~ goes south for other men who “jumped the gun”.
A tranquil mind is neither happy nor sad, it is uninfluenced by external conditions.
Getting married and then getting burned is not a prerequisite for going your own way.
EXACTLY! Its like sticking your hand in a fire. You do not need to stick your hand in fire to realise it will burn you.
Sure, getting married and going through the meat grinder is the first hand experience, that many men have gone through. It is an experience that men, who have not gone through such, will NEVER truly know how it feels like. I raise my hand as one of those “inexperienced” men, however I truly appreciate whatever the burnt men share with us. Priceless information that will help men who are going through the same pain and men who are on the verge of making the same mistake.
A tranquil mind is neither happy nor sad, it is uninfluenced by external conditions.
I thought my ex was terrible, but what she did to me (breaking up after I took care of her during her long stay at the Hospital) is NOTHING compared to the viciousness Iâve read on these very forums.
I’m reminded of a guy I knew. He was hospitalized after (accidentally) getting whacked in the head with a baseball bat.
His wife filed for a divorce while he was still in the hospital. The guy was pretty shaken-up…
Anonymous13Welcome.
Iâve read on these very forums. And she was otherwise a pretty nice girlâŠup until the point where she wasnât. She probably wouldâve f~~~ed me over had we been married, tho. I dunno.
They’re ALWAYS pretty nice right up to the point they DECIDE to f~~~ you over.
If you were married, YES, she would have f~~~ed you over.
An ABSOLUTE certainty.
Read this thread about how they lie and
GET THE F~~~ AWAY WITH IT.
Anonymous3Society IS in a free fall the world over.
I have 3 acquaintances whose wives just ” walked out of ” their marriage. One on Christmas eve when the kids were getting ready to open their gifts. No reason. No excuse. Just left. They luv ya til they don’t.
The highest form of wisdom is to learn from other’s mistakes. Not make them yourself.
I’ve made all the mistakes & paid dearly for it.
Including stays in mental institutions on heavy duty anti- psychotic meds. How I survived intact can only b the result of divine intervention. My view of the world now fluctuates between pity & contempt. I live alone & love it. My saving Grace is self-examination, meditation & prayer. I pursue my own ends. I come & go as I please.
Thank you for your intro. Mgtow is a place to learn how to live & even thrive in verry distorted & sick times.Welcome Viva,
I’m a never married MGTOW and I’m 43. 29 is a great age to explore the world and find your place in it. Spend time on things that interest you and make you excited. I agree that dating is totally possible for MGTOW guys, but just put a limit on your time/effort spent on it. Ideally, you could try to find some FWBs nearby if that is an option for you, but in Brazil maybe not. So many guys (myself included) throw away the best years of our lives chasing/dating women. Don’t do it bro.
Brazil
Strike one
But Iâm still into the dating game and Iâve no intention of abandoning it for now.
I don’t live in Brazil but I know that it has more than its fair share of execution videos on Youtube. Forgive me but that sounds like an utterly terrible idea, I am however willing to accept that I am misinformed on the level of violence.
A MGTOW is a man who is not a woman's bitch!
As the years go by, more and more of my friends are getting married and I have less people to go to parties with. Coincidentally, I joined this forum a couple of days after being invited to a marriage. One of my best bros is marrying a fat, unattractive, annoying, FEMINIST hag. Another one already proposed and another one even has a kid. The one with the kid seems happy, so that might be an exception. For now, anyway. The rest look to me like lambs voluntarily walking towards the slaughterhouse.
The one who recently proposed flat out told me he is not really happy and would rather be on my shoes. He insisted I should hire an “expensive” hooker instead of bothering with dating, since I have the money to afford it. But then again, he himself has NEVER hired a hooker AFAIK, so that might be a case of “grass is always greener on the other side” thing.
Anyway, I got a party to go tonight with yet another one of my friends who is dating yet another ugly and annoying chick. At least I’ll be able to drink and (maybe) f~~~ some loose college slut. And, NO, one night stands don’t end in rape charges around here. Not for now, anyway.
Will share some personal red pill proving stories at some point.
Oh yeah, more tidbits about myself: I have a Law degree, I’m into scuba diving, gaming and body building, I am very, VERY right-wing (which is a big “no-no” within my stupid demographic) and I have zero trouble getting people laughing (somewhat charismatic?). Unless they are stuck up PC c~~~s, that is. Those end up hating me really fast. đ
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Anonymous3Hello Viva, Welcome!
I would only like to add one thing to the excellent comments you already have:
I believe MGTOW is more of a first world thing�
Not really. MGTOW is about sovereignty, the freedom of each one of us to live according to his ways. This right is challenged by modern society in developed countries, but even more by traditional cultures and every society in the past. It is just more blatant in developed countries.
âWe are on strike against martyrdomâand against the moral code that demands it. We are on strike against those who believe that one man must exist for the sake of another. We are on strike against the morality of cannibals, be it practiced in body or in spirit. We will not deal with men on any terms but oursâand our terms are a moral code which holds that man is an end in himself and not the means to any end of others.â
â Ayn Rand, Atlas ShruggedThis quote applies to the socially accepted concept that men have to “take care” of women, therefore imposing sacrifices over one to the benefit of the other. That the needs of one become demands over the capabilities of the other. And all without recognition or retribution of any kind, assigning value to sacrifice oneself to feed another (the canibalism).
Again, in the words of Ayn Rand:
“I rebelled against demands for an unearned wealth â but I thought it was my duty to grant an unearned love to a wife I despised, an unearned respect to a mother who hated me, an unearned support to a brother who plotted for my destruction.”
Meu amigo, MGTOW faz muito sentido na moderna sociedade ginocĂȘntrica. Mas os seus princĂpios sĂŁo intemporais e universais. SĂŁo os principios de liberdade individual em face da imposição de conformidade da sociedade, que normalmente Ă© orientada para o benefĂcio de alguns em prejuizo de outros.
O reconhecimento que nós próprios nos policiamos por regras incutidas desde nascença é a grande revelação de MGTOW.(My friend, MGTOW makes a lot of sense in the modern gynocentric society. But its principles are timeless and universal. They are the principles of individual freedom in the face of an imposition of conformity by society, usually to the benefit of some to the detriment of others.
The recognition that we have policed ourselves by rules instilled since birth is the greatest revelation of MGTOW.)Welcome mate.
I’ve only been on these forums for a few days now and I’ve already learned that there is no “one size fits all” approach to MGTOW. It’s totally individual. Everyone comes from a different place and wants different things – but the key points that bind us are a shared belief in preservation of our sovereignty, the freedom to choose life on our own terms and not be beholden to the whims or expectations of society.
Oh yeah, more tidbits about myself: I have a Law degree, Iâm into scuba diving, gaming and body building, I am very, VERY right-wing (which is a big âno-noâ within my stupid demographic) and I have zero trouble getting people laughing (somewhat charismatic?). Unless they are stuck up PC c~~~s, that is. Those end up hating me really fast.
With all that under your belt – you’ll fit right in!
Hello Viva Pinochet!
Nice to meet you. Indeed the bulls~~~ is quite strong from so called NAWALTâs but you are on the right tracks.
You can check if you want my youtube channel :https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWgtIpmVbpOfTMlkB3W3FwQ
I do there weekly videos for men and newcomers in MGTOWÂ :
I basically give to them their needed uprise.
Thanks and have a nice manly day !
LEO THE WISELeo the wise : Giving to all men their needed uprise My MGTOW YOUTUBE channel, first vid : https://youtu.be/Xt-tJgVUGuI
Hello VP,
Appreciate your introduction and the great replies that it has generated.
…….I have NOT given up completely on women yet, so Iâm a âlow levelâ MGTOW or smt…..
Natural Born MGTOWs (Heterosexual Men) who have lived free of the influences of women are only about one in 100,000.
Most of us on this web site are on the MGTOW Road. It is a journey and/ or process of awakening.
Some MGTOWs here still believe in a form of NAWALT, like White Tigers. Some are still married and planning their escape. Some are in Relations~~~s. Some are behind the lines in enemy territory.
Too many of us former Blue Pill Slaves have scars and we are undoing programming from our life on the Plantation.
We are improving ourselves as we progress down the MGTOW Road. For most men who have been in Blue Pill Hell, there are lot of bad habits that can only be undone with the help/ examples of other Free Men.
Before MGTOW, BM, was a time in Blue Pill Hell where my enslavement involved chasing Unicorns and believing in NAWALT.
…..No matter what you experience, as you can clearly see, there will always be some other poor bastard who has had it worse. We listen to them, learn from them and be grateful for the learning experience…..
Agreed.
This web site is a gold mine.
There are also many Natural Born MGTOWs here who provide fine examples and inspiration.
………, even though I am sexually attracted to women. I have no hate towards women and truly see them for their nature. It is a nature that men CANNOT change. Whether you want pussy or not does not determine whether or not you have a âplace hereâ. All men who are seeking a better quality life and want to help other men, have a place here.
Bravo MM!
And Well Said!!!
Having a place for men to compare notes and wisdom about Women’s Nature is valuable.
What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?
@Manfred
Yeah, I know this point (the fundamental nature of women) is a hot topic among MGTOW. I, for one, believe there is nothing fundamentally wrong with female nature. God created them perfect and gave them the noblest purpose of all: the continuation of our species. And that worked just fine for the last couple THOUSANDS of years.
Feminism, OTOH, has but one purpose: to corrupt and destroy female nature, turning it into an evil mockery of its former self. It’s no surprise that abortion is a the center of every single feminist movement’s agenda. By taking the noblest thing about women (their maternal instinct) and turning it into something twisted and utilitarian, feminism succeds in its goal of turning god’s perfection into walking and talking monsters.
However, I’m not naive to believe that we can somehow start our own MRA branch and soon everything will go back to the way it was in the 1950. These transformations are slow and even if every single women started giving the middle finger to feminism TODAY it would still take some 50 years until things started to look normal again.
In other words, we are stuck between broken women and our own natural impulses. Positive change is unlikely to happen during our lifetime. It’s up to us to find our own path as MGTOW, I guess.
My path is still unclear to me.
(oh yeah, I got no lays saturday. I DID get a nice reminder of how degenerate women in my city have become tho)
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