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haha it’s from the onion, but ironicallly it could be not far off.
http://www.theonion.com/article/girlfriend-changes-man-into-someone-shes-not-inter-1507
CHARLOTTE, NC–After two and a half years of subtle prodding and manipulation, Jill Nickles has finally molded boyfriend Brendan Eiler into the sort of man in whom she’s not interested.
Jill Nickles and Brendan Eiler.
“When I first met Brendan, he was a guitarist for [local rock band] The Heavy Petters, and I couldn’t take my eyes off him,” said Nickles, 28. “I used to go to Tramp’s every Thursday night just to watch him play. He wasn’t even the most handsome guy in the world, but he just had this mystique, this air of danger about him. He was really exciting. It’s too bad he’s not like that anymore.”After several months of watching him from the crowd, Nickles finally introduced herself to Eiler after a show in September 1998. They soon began dating.
“Brendan was everything I wanted in a man,” Nickles said. “He was unpredictable, smart, and passionate. I knew he wasn’t perfect, but he was really fun to be around–which is more than I can say for him now.”
Just weeks into the relationship, Nickles began to notice changes.
“It started pretty early,” Nickles said. “Instead of being the wild man he’d been, more and more he’d just stay home like a lump, even on nights I told him it was okay if he went out.”
Four months to the day after their first date, Nickles moved into Eiler’s one-bedroom apartment. The move only accelerated the changes in him.
“Jill and I weren’t living together long before she started getting irritated by how small the apartment was,” Eiler said. “She was always complaining about how she didn’t have space anymore. Then, she got this idea to get a bigger place, but I couldn’t really afford it, since I was just barely scraping by with what I earned bartending at Mickey’s. I really liked bartending, and it allowed me flexible hours for band practice and gigs. But, like Jill said, I was 25 now and shouldn’t be living hand-to-mouth.”
At Nickles’ urging, Eiler quit his job at Mickey’s and landed a position at SFR Solutions, a Charlotte-area web-design firm. The job paid nearly $4,000 a year more than bartending, enabling the couple to move into a larger apartment.
With a full-time job and a live-in girlfriend, Eiler’s relationship with his bandmates soon began to deteriorate.
“They kept wanting to play more and more gigs, and I felt like if we wanted to land a record deal, what I needed to do was stay home and write some strong new material,” Eiler said. “Even Jill had stopped going to see us because she said she was getting sick of hearing the same songs–and she was our number-one fan. Finally, they said I had to make more time for shows or they’d get a new guitarist. I was like, ‘Screw you guys,’ and left. Jill pointed out that the band wasn’t really going anywhere anyway, and that I was better off in no band at all than one made up of a bunch of unambitious losers.”
Upon quitting the band, Eiler’s lifestyle changes accelerated. In September 2000, he cut his long mane of hair in an effort to land a promotion to associate design director at SFR Solutions. Nickles also convinced him to become a vegetarian and sell his customized leather jacket to put a down payment on a new Toyota Camry.
“When we first started dating, Jill loved how I looked in that jacket,” Eiler said. “But then, a few months later, she said I was getting too old to wear something like that. Plus, it didn’t really gibe with my new vegetarian beliefs. So, with Jill’s full support, I decided it was time to put my old ways to rest.”
Now a self-described homebody, Eiler said he finds his domestic lifestyle “really satisfying.”
“If you told me two years ago that I’d be thinking of marriage, a house with a picket fence, and kids, I would have said you were nuts,” Eiler said. “All I used to care about was hanging with my friends and having a good time. I guess it’s true that the love of a good woman can really change you for the better.”
Despite Nickles’ success in sculpting Eiler into “husband material,” she found her attraction for him beginning to wane.
“The reason I fell so hard for Brendan was that he was totally different from the guys I used to date,” Nickles said. “He had beautiful long hair, and he was really smart and cynical. Now he reminds me of my boring ex-boyfriend Kevin, who’s an accountant in Raleigh.”
Even though Nickles’ nights of going out to see The Heavy Petters are long over, she still enjoys going out on occasion.
“A couple of weeks ago, I was at the bar Brendan and I used to go to all the time,” Nickles said. “I ran into Rob, the bassist for Brendan’s old band and, I have to tell you, he looked really good. We hung out and talked for hours and just had a great time. Drinking and laughing with him really reminded me of the way it used to be with Brendan. I think I’m developing a little crush on Rob.”
I can see Keymaster’s reply in my head now…
“It’s only funny because it’s TRUE.” Well, maybe funny to normal blue-pillers at this point. This stuff isn’t even funny to me anymore for many reasons.
"To be yourself in a world that is constantly trying to make you into something else is the greatest accomplishment." -Ralph Waldo Emerson
LOL Clint, I thought the same damn thing; it’s really not funny anymore.

Anonymous12I spent some time on Female Led Relationship sites and Cuckold sites to try and understand women more which is always a frighting experiment. Anyway, many of these big tough Female badasses who were with submissive husbands would often see other men, and when they did see other men what type do you think they would go for?
Yes, they picked Alpha types who didn’t give a s~~~ about their self perceived dominance or anything else. What women say they want and what they really want are two very different things.
Not only this is not funny, but I’m quite fed up of this whole “women-are-s~~~” thing. We know what they are. WE KNOW. Then a new guy comes and brings with him an “interesting” story. We tell him AWALT and encourage him to keep taking his pills.
But after so many new guys, I’ve just had it. Maybe the new guys should go through the old threads instead of creating new ones like this^.
This seems like a wastage of space to me.@LordVats
I’m quite fed up of this whole “women-are-s~~~” thing
Nobody said “women are s~~~” here and there would be PUSHBACK from other members if anyone did. But women actually DO attempt to change men and we have proof of it in the archives – with testimony written by women called: “how to train your man like a dog”.
So is it satire, REALLY?????
“Women are s~~~” is a completely different statement from “women are women“. And that’s what they really do. Then, you get further testimony written by a man not even an hour ago (and brought by Clint) who’s wife blamed him ‘Because he changed”.
True story.
So if you have a *problem* that women are seen here and talked about EXACTLY FOR WHAT THEY ARE and according to their own behavior. Then you can LEAVE. Because we will point out to other men exactly what women actually do – with zero apology – and vigorously call them out on their s~~~. We will emphasize for the benefit of other men with great big f~~~ off capital letters.
Those letters spell….
MGTOW
and they will understand exactly where it comes from and why it exists.
/forums/topic/man-finds-out-his-wife-has-been-cheating-for-10-years/
There will be no apology for that.
Don’t worry about the space. This post takes up no space at all.
But it’s relevant to the content and a subject we were talking about 10 minutes ago.If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.I was just talking about the loss of empathy. When a new member comes in, and reads all about hypergamy and Briffault’s law, and gets all excited about it. We just approvingly smile and ask him to take the red pills. We even offer some more insight into the female psyche. But by the time a 100th guy does that, then please forgive me if I find it redundant.
We know women are women, and this has been discussed at a very long length here on many threads. I’m just asking that new members do due diligence and search the forums. Because after a point of time, it becomes painfully redundant.But by the time a 100th guy does that, then please forgive me if I find it redundant.
No forgiveness required. I suppose I should find it redundant then too. After all, I have done my bit. I saved a few guys a few million dollars. Stopped a few weddings. Saved a few lives. Maybe you’re right. Maybe it’s getting redundant.
It’s also redundant that I have to perform a shoulder check every time I need to change lanes …..
even though I ALREADY KNOW there is no car there and saw it in the side view mirror.If I’m gonna turn my head and double check anyway, it seems like a real waste of a mirror. Right?
This article from the onion was never posted before.
So that’s not your REAL issue.Get down to the REAL issue and stop wasting my time.
Because that bulls~~~ accusation of “misogyny” gets pretty f~~~ing redundant when you should already KNOW.But I will explain it again to you anyway. If I look up at the sky and observe the moon for exactly what it is, and I say “look at that lifeless rock. It doesn’t even have any atmosphere! Useless!” Does that mean I hate the moon? Am I a moon-sogynist???? Did I just say the moon is S~~~???? Am I even implying the moon is S~~~???
Explaining this over and over again to people who should already know is f~~~ing redundant.
Search the forums before you try that s~~~ again.Because after a point of time, it becomes painfully redundant.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Well okay here’s the real issue. Yes, the onion link has not been posted here before. But what purpose is bring served when it is posted via a thread that’ll be lost tomorrow.
If we want to create solid evidence of “women change men and then hate them for it” then maybe we should archive each and every link like the one above^. That way, when a new member (or any browser) reads “women change men”, he’ll have a boatload of links telling such a story. (< not sarcasm, a real suggestion)This link in question would be lost tomorrow after only a narrow exposure to members who are currently online. What possibly can a member say other than “AWALT”, after reading this link?
Ok that’s better.
The Manosphere repeats the same message over and over again: “Don’t sign a marriage contract for any f~~~ing reason you stupid f~~~”. But men are still doing it! And they are still killing themselves over a divorce. I even gave you a link to a thread showing another guy yesterday who asked for advice on what to do in his current situation… while his girlfriend is banging on the table for a wedding and babies. Do you think he’s gonna f~~~ing listen? Do you think there will be another suicide or he will set himself on fire like Thomas Ball? Because if he does, then what we are doing here is pretty f~~~ing redundant.
BUT lots of members come to the forum and don’t even visit the archives.
We can’t force them to visit the archives and search. FACT.We already have VIDEOS / AUDIOS / QUOTES / BOOKS / IMAGES / POSTS which have an independent search.
We also have FORUMS / TOPICS / AND REPLIES with an independent search.
We even separated them for the users convenience!
So we don’t have a links archive. REQUEST ONE! But don’t do it like this.
Because this guy brought the article, you can now search the forums for “woman changes man” and you will find it.
So if you would like to REQUEST AND ARCHIVE OF LINKS please summit a request using the contact form.
But post to members “I’m getting really tired of this women are s~~~ stuff” is just like what are you a CHICK???I expect that from a feminist.
Nagging because she has to break a nail to look for something twice.If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Done and Done. I had no idea one could do that. I thought the contact form was just for “contacting”.
I’m not worried about breaking a nail, just about the new cynics who are would bail at the first excuse and declare that MGTOW is illogical/stupid.
We HAVE to make it convenient for them because we can’t expect them to search the forums after reading about a principle.I think for us that have been here a bit …. things do keep recurring … a pattern as it were.
The same stories etc …. however … that’s because the problems and causes are the same.
I see us all here as man factory workers. A broken or disoriented guy comes in the front …. and with luck and some work ….. a new guys rolls out the back.
Until the production line stops ….. we have work to do. I consider this work unpaid and voluntary. My paying back to those who helped me, if you will.
You see … I was one of those going in the front door. I wasn’t charged for being ‘fixed’. So I put back in.
Sometimes factory work can get repetitive …. but when you see the fine product being produced ….. well one understands why it’s worth doing.
Maybe it’s the old age and wisdom thing …. or I take each day as new and forget yesterday …. dementia maybe 😃
Until the production line stops ….. we have work to do. I consider this work unpaid and voluntary. My paying back to those who helped me, if you will. You see … I was one of those going in the front door. I wasn’t charged for being ‘fixed’. So I put back in. Sometimes factory work can get repetitive …. but when you see the fine product being produced ….. well one understands why it’s worth doing.
I agree, we must give back. Well said.
Because in order to be able to think, you have to risk being offensive.
@LordVats Thanks for the request. Received. And Yes of course you can always send a request because that’s how the Forums came into existence. We never intended to create forums here because of all the variables associated with that. But look now!
We created this by request /recent/ A most recent 100 forums posts. Live filtered by topics and replies. This way if someone wants a quick overview of the last few hours (or whats’ going on right now) they can get it in one place really quick. We are going to be merging that into every forums page either on the side (or the bottom ) so that every member can see it at a glance.
But we also have a seclude to adhere to and this isn’t our full time job – yet. So we require patience. And we are working like single-mother-f~~~ers on everything I assure you until we get this bitch pregnant. (that’s a metaphor only) But its on the list. And we thank you for it.
At the moment you can use the top search (top right) to search for what’s archived. VIDEOS / AUDIOS / POSTS / IMAGES / QUOTES will show up. When the links archive is added, they will show up too. So when you search for “Briffault’s Law” or “Hypergamy” links for those will show too.
Profiles are WAY over due and we have 2 launches planned in the next two weeks but we will get to it. Thanks.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.When I first came here recently I didn’t search the archives. I found my way here from a PUA forum that I was lurking just for a couple cheap laughs. When I found my way here and started browsing around I instantly understood what this was about just from the subject matter of the recent forums. The understanding may have been helped by the fact that I have been MTGOW for years (just didn’t have a label for it till now); but, I think the basic idea of what was being discussed and what this place is about would be fairly obvious to most readers. That being said, the subject matter was interesting and relevant to me; but, that was not what made me sign up. I signed up for the humor and camaraderie that is displayed openly and obviously in most of the threads. If you pay attention to any forum over time you will find the same subjects most relevant to that forums members rehashed time and time again. On this one that just happens to be AWALT. What makes for a good forum is that they are rehashed in an entertaining and interesting way that both amuses us and has a good chance of snaring the attention of some poor sod about to make the worst mistake of his life.
"You have power over your mind - not outside events. Realize this, and you will find strength."
“The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.”
-- Marcus Aurelius, MeditationsWe created this by request /recent/ A most recent 100 forums posts. Live filtered by topics and replies. This way if someone wants a quick overview of the last few hours (or whats’ going on right now) they can get it in one place really quick. We are going to be merging that into every forums page either on the side (or the bottom ) so that every member can see it at a glance.
I like the recent page and dig the idea of incorporating it on every page. I say bottom but that’s just IMHO. Or it could even be incorporated into the navbar. K ill shut up and leave to the experts now lol
"You have power over your mind - not outside events. Realize this, and you will find strength."
“The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.”
-- Marcus Aurelius, MeditationsI feel also compelled to add (and I believe this is very important) that I have written out responses to concepts MANY times. But I don’t copy and paste it . I write it out AGAIN. And in writing it out AGAIN, I learn that I say it better than the last time. Almost like it trains me to have a BETTER understanding of it, and it continues to refine itself.
So where 5 years ago, I may have not quite known how to say it *best*, I understand something better now than then.
NAWLAT NAWALT NAWALT NAWALT. That’s all I ever heard from women. It drove me so crazy – that’s actually HOW I arrived at MGTOW. “how do I respond to NAWALT?” and now, it’s childsplay and every NAWALT I meet breaks into tears in 30 seconds.
I mention this because I often think “why am spelling it out AGAIN?” and then I realize I’m doing it for ME too.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.I like the recent page and dig the idea of incorporating it on every page. I say bottom but that’s just IMHO. Or it could even be incorporated into the navbar. K ill shut up and leave to the experts now lol
You just be an expert then, and bottom it will probably be , because we can’t stand clutter and it’s a secondary reference.
squishing everything inward is not a good idea.It will be at
• the bottom of your profile as soon as you log in
• the bottom of the main forms index
• The bottom of every forums page.In some capacity one way or another. This way the newest s~~~ is always in front of you.
It’s a custom solution and we want to do it right.If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.I signed up for the humor and camaraderie that is displayed openly and obviously in most of the threads.
Yes, I understand. Life would be dry without humor. But people rarely take humors seriously. Remember that the court jesters used to be wiser than kings, but were considered fools.
What makes for a good forum is that they are rehashed in an entertaining and interesting way that both amuses us and has a good chance of snaring the attention of some poor sod about to make the worst mistake of his life.
This is where I disagree. Humor is good in and of itself, but you can’t use to shove a red pill down a blue piller’s throat. Also, most of the humor here are inside jokes anyway, you’d have to be a pretty good red piller to get a good laugh.
I remember a new poster (@Won’tGetFooledAgain) getting enraged after he read @pascal‘s comment on this thread“I’m sorry if you’re not man enough to handle all that African femininity.”
He didn’t get that Pascal was being sarcastic. In response he said
“She is nasty! What next, are you going to try and convince us that fat women are actually Big Beautiful Women?”
” Nickles also convinced him to become a vegetarian”
what is it with the modern female being a veggie? They don’t want to eat poor little animals but have no problem walking round with a dead cow on their feet or a designer dead one on their arm
typical female logic
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