FREEDOM comes at a price

[The_reality_factorParticipant 211]

In 2009 after years of contemplation, I split from my alcoholic, sexless, smoking, fat, unfit, lazy, money spending pig of a women, my so called…… wife.

I have a couple of kids, they were quite young at the time. However, the thought of staying with this pathetic creature for the rest of my life was a thought that just made me want to shoot myself, or worse. Special thanks goes to my father, who stayed with his wife (my mother) right up to the day he died, because he couldn’t “afford” to leave her. This women suffered from bipolar and a few other mental health issues that were off the chart – in short, she was a complete and utter useless individual – a parasite. This women made my father’s life a living Hell. Generally, a good lesson of what not to do….

I accepted the fact, that I was going to lose significant money and assets, only see my kids part time and pay ongoing child support. To cut a long story short, the financial raping from the courts and child support agency was/is hard, nasty  and heavy. I ultimately paid  the price, for staying in a relationship too long (courts will punish men for not getting out earlier…this is a fact ). As a matter of fact, I paid the price for making an extremely poor life choice.

On the positive side of all this:

• I’ve managed to purchase a few investment properties
• I’m traveling to foreign countries on holidays each year
• I’ve got more cash, even though I’m paying child support and debt off from my “settlement”
• I do whatever and whenever I please
• I surf as many times a week and for hours on end, without a bitch constantly nagging me
• I’m completely free
• Living by myself, in my bachelor’s pad 🙂
• I’m in financial rebuilt mode, which is totally awesome and cool
• Did I mention, I’m complete and utterly free ? LOL

I did meet a hot female that I thought was not like all woman aka “special” (NAWALT). Unfortunately, after living with her for 12 months, she revealed her true self and it basically felt like I was just in the same old marriage but with a different person. I could see myself enslaving me….and repeating history! LESSON LEARNT 🙂

For you men out there contemplating divorcing your parasite of a partner/wife. I’d recommend doing it and not use the excuse of “not being able to afford it”. Chances are she will out live you and when you get older (retirement) you’ll have to support her financially, this is not to mention her ongoing expense medical problems. Either way, you’re going to pay.

The biggest lesson I’ve learnt so far. Many, if not most women will want commitment, they will try and control you, change you, trap you and take your freedom and manhood away from you. They do this in a very slow and passive aggressive manner…sex or lack of it, is a control mechanism, along with shaming language and making you jealous (flirting or mentioning other men). Manipulation is a womens strength and a man weakness – avoid it (manipulation) at all costs…do not engage the enemy!

Couple of books and information that have helped me

• Get the edge – Tony Robbins
• The manipulated man
• Dr Love – the system (dating dictionary)
• No more Mr nice guy
• The Predatory female – Lawrence Shannon

A guy in prison and a guy in a bad marriage have so much in common: all they do is think about freedom, and wonder how they got themselves into this predicament

[BeerParticipant 11832]

Smart move man.  I’ve witnessed my dad stuck with a crazy wife…and I can’t figure out why he never bailed.  He’s always said cheaper to keep her.  Even if he waited until my brother and I were out of high school to make the split like a lot of guys seem to set for their exit point, he would have had less assets to split and more time to rebuild.

Since then, he put in another 13 years of working and saving…which has been 13 of the highest paying years of his career, plus minus the two dependents living at home with him, setting him up for a period of his life where he could save the most.  If he splits now he’s got a lot more to split, and if he wants to retire by 65 a couple years at best to rebuild…meaning, not enough time.

[ILiveAgainParticipant]

What price freedom?

Freedom of mind, body, soul and spirit.

Freedom to think, feel, love and laugh.

Freedom to dream, create, advance and experience.

What price freedom?

[The_reality_factorParticipant 211]

It is surprising how many men in unhappy married lives just stick out it. Some stay for the kids and you can’t fault them for that. However, it has been widely shown by many experts in the field of child psychology, that children are far better of having parents split than live in a house full of tension.  It is sad and a very unfortunate state, that many men live lives of quite desperation.

Freedom……any price is worth paying. Soldiers have died and countries have fought for it and for others.

I’ve known men who have freed themselves from the slavery of marriage or worse – their ex-wife did it for them. They have had the financial raping happen to them, ONLY to go back for a second bite with their new little Miss NAWALT ….”surprisingly” they end up divorced for the 2nd time and their assets are halved again. Some real hardcore dudes actually go back for a 3rd spanking from a NAWALT 🙁

Insanity is an intelligent person doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting a different result

Some men or possibly most men just can’t  alone. Obviously the idea of being lonely, scares them more than giving their hard earn assets and money away to a person they end up hating….

Rant over! LOL

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[RoyDalParticipant]

@the_reality_factor
You are an inspiration. I hope other men see your opening post — especially those in the divorce meat grinder.

Society asks MGTOWs: Why are you not making more tax-slaves?

[The_reality_factorParticipant 211]

Thanks for the kind words RoyDal.

I’m hoping some guys will see this post and it helps them realise that there is light at the end of the the dark tunnel. That they have to do all the hard work, make tough decisions and face the realities of the cause and effect of their actions.

The single best thing a man can do, is when your “enemy” tries to smash you to little bits and is Hell bent on destroying you……is to rise from the ashes and make a complete and utter success out of yourself, while totally ignoring the evil troll that attempted to caused all the pain and chaos. Men need to focus on themselves and not external influences that side track them from their mission.

 

[BeerParticipant 11832]

@Reality Factor – I agree man.  I’ve seen plenty of guys do this same thing…now they’re in their 50’s with 2-3 ex wives under their belt and less than 50k net worth.  They’ll have fun never retiring because they got asset raped multiple times.  Had they just never married they could have had a paid off house and some money stashed in investment accounts at this point.

Its just straight up dumb that you could go into a marriage and bring assets while the woman brings debt, and you can be the higher earner every year of the marriage even if missed work due to children isn’t a factor, and you literally end up with 50% or less if things go sour.  Its ridiculous to put yourself in that situation when you could just stay unwed, and if you have a relationship that goes sour you walk away financially in tact.  The worst thing that can happen is child support, but even that is a lot less painful than your house and half your savings to go with it.

 

[The_reality_factorParticipant 211]

@beer

Would be cheaper to run a prostitute at the end of the day….and you can always upgrade to a younger model 😀

Once you commit to a woman, on average, sexual relations drop off in a linear manner. The sex starts off flat out, the man commits and as the years draw on – it ends up a sexless relationship. The man’s logic; if we live together, I’ll have sex on tap.  Well, the logical man just fell into the commitment trap and now the sex will die, eventually, and the female will try and emasculate her man. The so called couple, end up as room mates 🙁

Generally, cohabitation is high risk and a bad investment choice – for a male.

[clint englandParticipant 341]

So, so true boys!  I’ve seen this play out with my own parents and other couples close to me.

Such a shame women are the way they are but hey that’s life!

MGTOW Baby!!

[DarthWParticipant 70]

Thanks for the story reality_factor. It’s a great reminder to anyone here.  Up until a couple years ago I would never have called myself “MGTOW” but was definitely seeing a lot of these issues in other men’s marriages.  Most men I know, if they are truthful, are not happily married.  And their wives legs are closed while his wallet must be perpetually open to meet her needs.

I would venture a guess that women don’t really want “commitment”, however.  Ultimately, they want your finances, whether in marriage or divorce.   Hence their desire for “commitment”.

Just heard about a guy this weekend whose wife was a waitress at their restaurant.  She was likely hot in the day, and is still good looking, but soon to hit the wall.  She’s definitely got the crazies, and seems to drink vodka endlessly.  Well, he finally got sick of her cheating for the 4th time, and is divorcing her.  Of course, again she’s a waitress, living in their 750K home with an nice in ground pool, while he is living in a one bedroom apartment.  She brought nothing to the marriage, but she’ll leave with cash and prizes.  I hope he sees the freedom it will bring him, but wow all that money could have been better spent on him.

MGTOW!!

[BeerParticipant 11832]

Poor guy.  A lot of situations like the p~~~ me off so much.  He could have spent 10 years building up the business before he met her, she’s with him for 10 working as a waitress and walks away with half.  He did all the hard work before he met her…she was never any more valuable to the business than any of the other waitresses…she pretty much just went for a ride on his success.  Its the same for career guys.  You can spend 10 years educating yourself and getting established in your career, then settle down and marry an uneducated secretary for 10 years, and if you split she gets half..wtf?

I could see it if you were married while starting the business while both working at it, or married and splitting bills while you were in school, but to get married after the investments in your future have been made, then have to split the dividends simply because she was married at the time your business/career was paying you back is absurd.

[experiencedParticipant]

For: DarthW and Beer, this is our responsibility as MGTOW.  These guys are never told, “If you’re stupid enough to marry her, and she on a whim decides to take you down, she gets all that wealth, despite bringing nothing [c~~~ cancels pussy] to the table.”

It is a totally wrong set up, nevertheless it is the set up, and guys have to be warned.

"It seems like there's times a body gets struck down so low, there ain't a power on earth that can ever bring him up again. Seems like something inside dies so he don't even want to get up again. But he does."

[The_reality_factorParticipant 211]

@darthw

DarthW wrote:

I would venture a guess that women don’t really want “commitment”, however. Ultimately, they want your finances, whether in marriage or divorce. Hence their desire for “commitment”.

Awesome comment….it is access to all resources a man offers!

 

[Bright guyParticipant 156]

I got my get out of jail card. I just signed my divorce paperwork within the last month. Yes, as reality_factor states I will be paying a price for my freedom but the price is well worth it. I started to realize a few years back subconsciously this was were my life was going. Consciously I didn’t want to accept it

My subconscious mind started making the right moves to get me free without me know it a few years back. It came to a head with my job lose over 3 years ago. Yes I found part time jobs to make up some of the money but the bright light went off in my mind when the ex-wife decided that it was my responsibility to solely provide for the family. She said “her money was hers and my money was the households money”.  She is working full time making a little more than me at the time. This was at the time in which I had just about caught up with my back  mortgage payments. Funny how marriage is suppose to be a partnership but mine turned into a dictatorship.

Fast forward to last summer, she gets a small inheritance , tells me she wants a divorce and I should move out of my own house. I find my nuts and say hell no.. She spends her summer going out several nights a week. I found out about the unemployed BF ( I keep my mouth shut– hell I would love to shake the guys hand — maybe even buy him a beer…LOL). Yes her bats~~~ crazy side comes out and tries to make me do something stupid but I don’t take the bait.

My subconscious mind has made things fall right into place– no alimony, and  lower child support payments all because I have made very little money over the last few years. The house will be sold– her parents are the ones taking the big financial hit– they are stuck paying for another house along with the household expenses and  her legal fees.

I will rebuild my life quickly and will make sure my kids are taken care of financially and emotionally. Yes I will not see my kids everyday but it will be better for everyone in the long run. Having the kids living in  a toxic environment with all the bulls~~~ is not a life for a child to grow up in. I am seeing now that my life is improving in everyway with everyday.

The kids are slowly starting to see the light. I heard my daughter and ex-wife arguing. The ex-wife’s anger towards me is  now being directed towards the kids at time. The kids are not holding back on their feeling. The ex-wife is finally starting to realize that her life will be a struggle– she is starting to complain about money already–(not my problem– I am already paying more than my fair share). I loved the ex-wife speech” if you had a job I would not have be divorcing you– Its all your fault”. This just reinforced I was making the right decision

So for those guys that have the mentality its cheaper to kept her– all you are doing is keeping yourself locked inside a  prison cell of your own misery. Yes freedom comes at a cost but it’s well worth it. Stop complaining and start living a life you want.

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[BeerParticipant 11832]

@Bright Guy – Congrats man.  I’ve seen the woman on the other end of your situation so many times moving in and out of the condo building I live in, there are 100+ units and a lot of them get rented out like apartments, so I’ve seen a lot of people in and out over the years.  It seems like immediately post divorce they are all happy, and all have new cars and money to go out every weekend, but fast forward a few years to when they blew through “their” half of the assets from the marriage and/or their child support payments end and you see them downgrading the car, not going out nearly as much, and in general becoming a much more bitter person as they get bitch slapped by reality.

Its like they all have that day they realize their marriage truly was more good than bad, and now that they are post wall with a ton of baggage the chances of finding a good catch are next to zero.  I’ve always kind of wondered how many times the first day of this realization is when they have a random run in with the ex and see he’s got his s~~~ in order financially and has a younger gf hanging off his arm.  I say gf because clearly the dude isn’t dumb enough to marry again lol.

[Bright guyParticipant 156]

@beer

She will probably not have a real money problem because she will always be running back to her parents for more money. I always loved the ” you have never really lived up to your full potential” speech. I say ” Yeah I am more disappointed in you too– you have a Masters and I only have a Bachelors degree but I was usually able to make more money than you”.

When the money well runs dry that’s when its going to get very interesting..lol

[The_reality_factorParticipant 211]

@ Bright Guy

Congrats on your freedom. Makes me happy to see a man escape the prison cell of marriage!

Men are seen by society and more specifically females, as pure human machines that just supply resources to women and children. Men are just drones to ensure the survival of the next generation, to grow GDP and be mental punching bags (sometimes physical) for their wife/partner or girlfriend. Once a man steps out of this role and stops supplying the resources, and rejects the whole social system and society’s expectations. He and others are labeled as losers, pathetic men, Peter Pans, selfish pricks, loners, retards and other shaming language. I see these words as compliments.

There’s pretty strong statistics, showing men re-partner within 2 years of a divorce. This just blows my mind, as many have been to Hell and back.

Lambs to the slaughter!

 

[Bright guyParticipant 156]

Here is a good story about being called names:

It was around Christmas time and the then wife said she wanted to get one of my kids an iPhone for Christmas and put them on my phone plan (which BTW I wanted to do). I said sure— we’ll go down to the store, you  pay for the phone and I would add it to my plan. I also wanted to upgrade one of the other kids phones at the same time. Apparently she got p~~~ed because the new phone should have been purchased first then the other phone was to be updated. I did it in the reverse order. So there she is ranting and raving how she is the one paying for the phone and how much of a man I wasn’t because she had to pay for the kids phone.  She storms out of the store screaming taking me home. ( should have taken 2 cars).The look on the other customers faces was priceless. ( I said she was “having issues” as I smiled walking out the store). The manger already new the story prior to me walking in..

I get into the car and get called every name in the book (ex: loser, asshole, sperm donor and the list goes on) I start busting out laughing. She screams ” what the f~~~ do you think is so f~~~n funny? ” I said ” Its you!! you are so pathetic!!! and I laughed for the ride home.

She was looking for fight and I didn’t give it to her. I said ” in your world you might think that’s true but if you haven’t figured it out yet I don’t care what you think. Its all about what I think is right and you are wrong dear”.

When you become indifferent about the situation, you possess all the power. STFU (Shut The F~~~ Up) is one of the most powerful tools that a MGTOW should have in his tool box of life. It saves a lot of headache and heartbreak in the long run ( plus it will keep you out of jail!!!)

Reason #354674 that I was making the move I the right direction..!!!

[The_reality_factorParticipant 211]

I refuse to argue with women anymore, I just smile, chuckle or laugh and walk off! I wont be drawn into their drama and games….

I get called a women hater, bitter and twisted or “you’ll get over it one day”!!!

The best one of all – you’ll end up lonely.

My response is; well, it is far better to die lonely, than to be nagged to death 🙂

Not being a religious person but there is a quote from the Bible I quite like…..

It is better to live in a desert land than with a quarrelsome and fretful woman.

How old is the Bible ? LOL

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Vector VikingParticipant 413]

I wonder why more men stuck in s~~~ty marriages haven’t cleaned out the bank account and f~~~ed off to Argentina?

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