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Many of us are having issues with posting in the forums. Sometimes our posts take a long time to appear, and other times they don’t appear at all. I say “many of us”, because I have had these problems and have also seen other people complaining about them. It’s pretty aggravating to spend 30 minutes typing up a response to a post including links, videos, etc and then have that time simply erased by never having it appear. It makes one have to assume that they are being censored. Why does a post even need approval? Why does a post have to be evaluated on an individual level instead of the actual person posting it? If there is an individual trolling and spamming, can’t that person be dealt with and banned rather than forcing everyone with a URL in their post to have to wait for approval? We don’t need censorship. Last time I checked, we’re all men here, and if we’re not, it should be easier to kick the poster out than to evaluate every single thing being posted.
there’s a filter for topics and replies. this is shown on the sidebar, scroll down.
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If you know this could happen, why don’t you copy and paste to a word file if its that important?
Nobody is being f~~~ing censored, and not everything is being evaluated. YouTube has the same system. Its easier to do that when you have 12k plus members.
Its already been stated quite clearly that the s~~~ doesn’t just “disappear”. It’ll be posted soon if it doesn’t appear right then.
The only reason you can say “last time I checked, we all men”, if because these forums are very well moderated and garbage is thrown out IMMEDIATELY upon discovery. If you’ve been paying attention, some of us AREN’T. There are women, manginas, and trolls trying to hack this forum, and fill this forum up with bulls~~~ every chance they get. So I’m sure you’d understand a little precaution being taken.
are you a chia pet in man drag If you know this could happen, why don’t you copy and paste to a word file if its that important?
Nobody is being f~~~ing censored, and not everything is being evaluated. YouTube has the same system. Its easier to do that when you have 12k plus members.
Its already been stated quite clearly that the s~~~ doesn’t just “disappear”. It’ll be posted soon if it doesn’t appear right then.
The only reason you can say “last time I checked, we all men”, if because these forums are very well moderated and garbage is thrown out IMMEDIATELY upon discovery. If you’ve been paying attention, some of us AREN’T. There are women, manginas, and trolls trying to hack this forum, and fill this forum up with bulls~~~ every chance they get. So I’m sure you’d understand a little precaution being taken.
That’s an excellent idea; and I will start doing that from now on. Clearly, “s~~~” DOES disappear or mine wouldn’t have. Mine has even disappeared during an edit, never to return. The possibility of censorship cannot be ruled out, since it can’t be proven one way or the other. However, it is also reasonable to believe it could possibly be a bug. Either way, this type of thing should be reported so that it can be dealt with properly. Bugs need to be fixed, and censorship is the absolute last thing any of us need around here. There is no point in participating in discussions if the points a person have to make just disappear at random.
If you know this could happen, why don’t you copy and paste to a word file if its that important?
Nobody is being f~~~ing censored, and not everything is being evaluated. YouTube has the same system. Its easier to do that when you have 12k plus members.
Its already been stated quite clearly that the s~~~ doesn’t just “disappear”. It’ll be posted soon if it doesn’t appear right then.
The only reason you can say “last time I checked, we all men”, if because these forums are very well moderated and garbage is thrown out IMMEDIATELY upon discovery. If you’ve been paying attention, some of us AREN’T. There are women, manginas, and trolls trying to hack this forum, and fill this forum up with bulls~~~ every chance they get. So I’m sure you’d understand a little precaution being taken.
That’s an excellent idea; and I will start doing that from now on. Clearly, “s~~~” DOES disappear or mine wouldn’t have. Mine has even disappeared during an edit, never to return. The possibility of censorship cannot be ruled out, since it can’t be proven one way or the other. However, it is also reasonable to believe it could possibly be a bug. Either way, this type of thing should be reported so that it can be dealt with properly. Bugs need to be fixed, and censorship is the absolute last thing any of us need around here. There is no point in participating in discussions if the points a person have to make just disappear at random.
Oooooooh. Sorry, I misunderstood. I didn’t know you meant it was erased.
are you a chia pet in man drag No problem! I had one disappear during an edit, never to return, and another I typed up just never showed up, even days later. Mind you, I’m not pointing my finger at the administration; I’m aware that they have been hacked previously and it’s possible that things like this may be the result of that. Maybe they aren’t, I don’t know but I can at least inform them that it’s happening.
We understand this. But there are also things you need to understand.
Why does a post have to be evaluated on an individual level instead of the actual person posting it?We don’t need censorship.
NOTHING is being evaluated for “approval”. Nothing. We’re not screening anything. We’re not censoring anything. In fact when we go in to check “pending” …… all we care about is “do we know the member?” and then we don’t even read it – and click publish.
It is the default behavior of the built in filter that holds back potentially / questionable material in pending. Personally I haven’t released a post from “spam” in weeks.
We had a filter that was more strict on top of the built-in one, but everyone has been great about never posting crap so we removed it in late November. Once, someone tried to post naked pictures of Emma Watson but that was successfully held back. We cannot remove the filter to have no protection.
Now,,,,
Our site has been under attack. Twice on the 29th – alone …… twice yesterday …… and once again this morning. But guess what, they FAILED. We beat their asses. It has been the number one priority to avert this s~~~ and they are angry as hell. “Skankspanker” also spent 2 or 3 days assisting us with this on his own time.
If it’s not being outright attacked, there are posers being sent from the UK deliberately trying to demonize MGTOW. On the 29th some angry c~~~ from the UK wrote to us with all kinds of stupid demands and mild threats. We were like “honey, how about we just ban you and then you don’t have to get all worked up about it”…… and she says “on what grounds!!!”. (lol)
You want to be angry about something, take it out on them. We are accomplishing miracles here. For starters, when the the site goes down. we don’t just bring it back, we bring it back — AND — if any posts were made since the last full backup, one of us goes in there and MANUALLY adds your posts…. and goes through them again to assign each one to the author…. and even edits the publish time to exactly when you posted.
You think it’s a big deal to write and lose a post?
Try managing thousands of them and losing the entire archive.We could just come back and say “oops sorry tough luck everyone the last 8 hours of posts are gone., Too bad. So sad” —- but we don’t. We simply don’t have the resources or the time to do bring them back, but we do it anyway. Even on f~~~ing CHRISTMAS DAY.
We can’t keep doing this if this is going to be your response.
You’re TRAINING us not to care.Understand? If you don’t understand that posting is not a “right” but a privilege and the restoration of lost posts means nothing to you…. then there is really no point in us wasting our time doing it! We will use restore the site to the last backup and say “Oh well. Who cares.” But that would make us assholes wouldn’t it. Even though it wouldn’t.
We’re not ‘treating you badly” so please make sure that’s clear before you go off on us.
The last thing I “censored” was one suggestion of a violent retaliation. (small sentence stricken) …. and when someone posted a crazy idea that we don’t want other people to get ideas from. That’s it. In one recent thread, one member thought it was appropriate to insult and defame another member and they were deliberately testing our forum limits. And maybe a year ago, someone posted some vile pictures but he never did it again.
Otherwise everyone has been just excellent.
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In your particular case, more of your posts are held in pending because of the nature of what you post. Extremely long quotes are interpreted by the filter as questionable. So are lots of links. We even added a side bar feature that displays them LIVE so you know there is something held back.
We are actually as sick and tired of having to repeatedly explain all this s~~~.
It’s a waste of our time too.——
Our site works exactly as its suppose to. When it doesn’t, it’s 99.9% human error or vandalism – and 0.1% technical glitches like a freeze resulting in an automatic reboot because the site got hammered with hundreds of visitors at once.
We have been trying to avoid having a “terms and conditions” policy with a bunch of stupid rules you have to agree to in order to post, but we may now have to create one that says:
• If you post you agree to the post being lost (or deleted) within the first 3 hours.
• If your post sticks, you understand the post can still be lost (or deleted) but the risk is very minimal
• If your post is on the site for 24 hours, it will be permanent providing it breaks no guidelines.
• We are under no obligation to restore anything lost due to any technical failure.
• And reserve the right to delete anything at any time for any reason.These are VERY REASONABLE. We have been going above and beyond this.
Please recognize this. We do not want to be pushed to the point of not caring.Thank you.
I will move this thread into “questions and answers” later.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.PS…. occasionally this has happened. But it’s VERY rare.
Lets say you post something that goes in “pending”. (maybe you posted a questionable link)
Now an admin approves it.
If you go back and edit what you typed again it will go BACK in pending.
Then an admin will have to release it AGAIN.But it helps if you don’t think of your post as “disappeared”. the new sidebar on the right displays the number of topics and replies in pending for your convenience. Technically we could approve “everything” and none of this would be an issue, but we are sure you can understand why that’s just not a good idea.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.I have no complaints and I don’t want to see pics of Emma Watson naked. I don’t want any threats of physical violence.
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i have zero complaints
there are lots of feminists causing trouble on mgtow.com………..that’s the reason for lost poststhe admin team works hard to fix the mess that feminists hackers create
we should all thank them for their hard work.
MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.
Anonymous29For f~~~s sake, I’m just glad we have been given such an excellent forum and lets not forget, these guys are not paid to do it.
I’ve had posts and replies go awol, and never complained or asked publicly or otherwise simply because
I know this MGTOW forum like others are constantly under siege from hackers,Fantastic job you are doing KM and team. My only complaint is, I wish da f~~~ I could get down and dirty
and help, even in some limited way considering I’m computer challenged.
Tx guy’s.So links are evaluated for questionablness. And long posts are questionable? Could you just give us the exact parameters that cause something to go into pending?
Well, that;s the problem. It’s not entirely consistent. We don’t KNOW what will be held back. — but — we have noticed when someone quotes another quote ( quote within a quote) we see this in pending often.
There is really no need to re-quote an entire post and comment with one or two lines underneath it when you can just say @username….. and direct your comment to that person. If someone wan’t to see the original comment they can scroll up.
“Normal” use like just typing doesn’t trigger any concern.
Alternatively…..
• Some youtube videos don’t like to be embedded in other sites. So instead of the video displaying, you will just see the link to it. This is controlled by the channel at youtube.
• Some remote images from “spammy” sites.
We could technically allow everything but that would be stupid.
If the site is under attack (or reboots) as a precaution you could lose it entirely.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.how does an automated filter decide a link is questionable? does it compare against a list of hate speech servers or something?
Until about a month ago… YES!
We had a filter in place that is constantly checking against a database of questionable sources. So let’s say “viagra”. When you post a mention of that,.. it would pass your post through that remote filter and then send a message back saying it’s OK, and then our forums would post it.
But this bloated the posts up by 300%. So our forum was getting FATTTTT. We removed this strict filter and all associated approval data and reduced the forum file size down to 25% of that. The built in filter is actually good enough.
There are also some users who end up in “pending” more than others. Crazy Canuck has a very cryptic looking username (he uses upside down characters) and we think that may have something to do with it, but I understand “Veniversum”‘s concerns because he ends up in pending often. Not really sure why. Maybe “Veniversum” means cum-swallowing whore in another language? I don’t know.
That was mostly a joke but you get my meaning.
( Don’t think I haven’t lost posts either. )
But as far as interpreting what you typed… no. Our filter is 100% local and has no outside dependencies anymore. you can type “c~~~ c~~~-whalloping whoremaster purple-headed yogurt thrower” and it won’t be filtered.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Do you see what happened just now? We didn’t do that. That was an automatic failsafe measure that kicked in to do a quick 180 second reboot. That means someone was trying to f~~~ with us.
Some people might think “gosh that sucks” but actually it’s GREAT because if something goes wrong, the system takes care automatically of it in a minimum amount of time.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.Its just odd you have a filter you can’t fully understand. Does a third party do the reviewing, and decide what goes into pending?
I answered that in detail above. We used to have a 3rd party filter until last month. But it’s a common filter used by hundreds of thousands of sites. We got rid of it because it fattened our forums up too much.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.as of now, the “quote” button doesn’t work for me. anyone else have this issue?
MGTOW is not a movement, it is a way of life.
Anonymous29Do you see what happened just now? We didn’t do that. That was an automatic failsafe measure that kicked in to do a quick 180 second reboot. That means someone was trying to f~~~ with us.
Some people might think “gosh that sucks” but actually it’s GREAT because if something goes wrong, the system takes care automatically of it in a minimum amount of time.
Yup,
Some of my posts have disappeared outright. It has always been associated with a major site crash.
Many of mine got pending or spam. I think it’s because of my habit of putting URLs in them. Or, maybe the filter sees “RoyDal”, expands it to Royal Dalliance, and tags me for lèse–majesté.
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Spammy sites.. is there a list of those that’s refereced?
Not required. If it’s a mainstream looking link that reads like english…. it will be fine….
But if it’s something from a clickbait site or looks like junk
http://somec~~~site/uyas187651y65$$&^%%$iuyoiutiu….. then it could probably be held back
I had a post that was just two links to mainstream news outlets. No other words. Do links without other words cause it to go into pending?
Yeah if you just drop a link and nothing else, the filter may say “WTF is this s~~~”?
But I wouldn’t over think it really. We also just discovered a communication error with twitter was causing other problems and certain forums features were mildly effected by this. Like the quotes button and even our log in screen.
If you keep doing what you've always done... you're gonna keep getting what you always got.as of now, the “quote” button doesn’t work for me. anyone else have this issue?
This should now be fixed. We just posted a note in the side bar. It was a side effect of our communication with twitter. I noticed the same thing and spotted the problem. All forum reply compose window buttons will display now.
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