Finally MTGOW and Free

[ronnyquestParticipant 156]

Greetings! I, like so many others, have finally found MGTOW. Unfortunately, like so many others, I found it later than I might have liked.

Also, like so many other men, I was indoctrinated from birth into “chivalry” and that overwhelming sense of duty to women. Regardless of how they treat us, we are supposed to be “gentlemen,” and we are never to raise our voices, nor our hands, to one of them. I never did. We are taught that it is our duty to care for and support women, come Hell or high water, despite and in spite of all the stupid s~~~ they do and demand. I did.

I married young, went to college, then joined the Army. We had been high school sweethearts and it seemed right. Isn’t it amazing how dramatically they change after that ring is on their finger? I was stationed overseas, but they wife decided that she didn’t want to be an Army wife; never mind that she had never actually tried it. Her mother told her so. Eventually, she demanded a divorce. During that process, she became pregnant by the security guard at work. I was overseas and lost everything, including our daughter, due to poor representation in court and a system that caters to women over men. Oh well, five years lost.

Having not learned my lesson and convinced that I had finally stumbled upon the right one, I married again. About three years into that marriage, and after we’d made two children, I discovered all of the medication she had been hiding from me, which took daily because of her mental issues. That explained the crazy. Real crazy, not this “I feel bad, so I need a Xanax” crazy. Fifteen years this marriage lasted because through most of it I still felt that overwhelming sense of duty to family and “chivalry.”

Fortunately, I had grown immensely wiser during the latter part of that fifteen years. She told me at some point that she wanted a divorce. She also told me about this plan she had where it would be uncontested and we would share the kids and part equitably, just like her boyfriend had with his wife.

Well, long story shorter, I let her believe that immense load of bulls~~~ while I prepared. I took notes, copied papers and receipts, recorded her screaming fits, and took pictures. I documented everything. Then, I called every lawyer I could find and asked which lawyer they recommended for a divorce; then I called him and retained him. Then, the kids and I moved out and we had her served at work.

All that preparation paid off. The kids hated her, so that worked to my advantage. Her attorney wanted to appoint a GAL for the kids, so my attorney suggested a well-known local family law practice. That paid off. We had the venue changed to the next county over, where the judge was a very conservative woman with nine children, who didn’t hold with married women pretending they are 22 and single. Then, the best part happened: true to form, my lying, cheating, soon-to-be-ex-wife lied in court and withheld evidence the judge demanded. She was censured, which in this state allowed my attorney what amounted to free reign; she wasn’t even allowed to speak during the final hearing.

I got the kids and the ex-wife pays ME child support. She is also responsible for half of all expenses incurred on behalf of the kids, from education to medical. She gets supervised visits once per week–supervised by me. I have full physical and legal custody. Finally, all her debts and the debts she incurred in my name were officially made her responsibility. I was lucky: I had a good attorney, kids who despised their mother and wanted to live with me, an excellent GAL, and a sympathetic judge. However, the best part was that my wife screwed herself and demonstrated in court judge what a piece of s~~~ she had become. As I explained to my attorney early on, divorce is no different from any other conflict and I had read Sun Tzu.

Glad to be here.

Do not wait to strike till the iron is hot; but make it hot by striking! -- William Butler Yeats

[reconveteranParticipant 72]

Excellent intro. Cheers to a fellow Army veteran. The Macallan 18 is on the bar, help yourself to a dram or three.

[LionOnTheLooseParticipant 1315]

Welcome, brother. Man, that’s some story, and it’s terrific to hear a guy managing to get a decent outcome from the court through all the preparation you put into it. You became a prepper of sorts during your second marriage.

You’re home now, grab a beer. Plenty of us have realised how badly screwed we’ve been for believing in “chivalry”: it’s one of many myths that serves gynocentric society. But you can at least be proud of all that you did to be a decent human being. That’s more than these women can ever do.

I hope you’re going to avoid a third marriage!!

Again, welcome.

There aren't holes in your pockets. It's called marriage.

[Solo MAN’S WisdomParticipant]

Strong work, Ronny. Women will always think they are the smartest in the room . . . until a MAN proves them wrong.

When women lead, destruction is the destination. -- Me.

[ronnyquestParticipant 156]

LionOnTheLoose wrote:

I hope you’re going to avoid a third marriage!!

Never again. Never.

Do not wait to strike till the iron is hot; but make it hot by striking! -- William Butler Yeats

[CarnageParticipant 22113]

Wow… is this even possible?

To those following me, be careful, I just farted. Men those beans are killers.

[ronnyquestParticipant 156]

Solo MAN’S Wisdom wrote:

Strong work, Ronny. Women will always think they are the smartest in the room . . . until a MAN proves them wrong.

As you can imagine, there is far more to the story, but I wanted to keep it down to novella size. Hell, I probably ought to write a book about it. It would be a page-turner.

Do not wait to strike till the iron is hot; but make it hot by striking! -- William Butler Yeats

[ArcturisParticipant 2819]

Welcome home Brother. Great Intro!

Life will get better and better everyday.

Protect Your Sovereignty. Women WILL TRY To Manipulate You. #NOCONTACT #ICETHEMOUT

[RomulusParticipant 4667]

Welcome ronnyquest, we’re glad you shared your story and that you have joined us.

How can a woman be expected to be happy with a man who insists on treating her as if she were a perfectly normal human being.

[Anonymous 7]

Welcome home.

[FrostByteParticipant 19005]

Great intro and thanks for taking the time to write it.
Welcome

If you rescue a damsel in distress, all you will get is a distressed damsel.

[MoreSkyParticipant 4865]

Welcome ronnyquest and thanks for sharing your story.

"...reinvent your life because you must; it is your life and its history and the present belong only to you.” It is Your Life, Charles Bukowski.

[Anonymous 13]

Welcome Ronny.

Bitches be crazy.

I’m glad you f~~~ed her over.
She’d only do it to you.

#SHOWNOMERCY

[Mr. SpockParticipant 10910]

Welcome sir and a story with a great outcome. Looking forward to reading more from you.

Feminism isn't about equality with men, it's about leverage over men.

[Mr LogicParticipant 625]

Welcome sir. Smoking a bowl for you tonight.

[ronnyquestParticipant 156]

While I summed it up as much as I could for you to get the gist of the story, there is so much more and I am happy to tell some of the anecdotes. The whole process took all of 2014 and 2015, finally ending officially in 2016.

Thanks, I appreciate the welcomes.

Do not wait to strike till the iron is hot; but make it hot by striking! -- William Butler Yeats

[MonkParticipant 16988]

ronnyquest wrote:

I was lucky: I had a good attorney, kids who despised their mother and wanted to live with me, an excellent GAL, and a sympathetic judge. However, the best part was that my wife screwed herself and demonstrated in court judge what a piece of s~~~ she had become.

True, but it was your PLANNING that really tipped the balance.

Note to lurkers: Once you realise it’s all going south, keep cool, keep your mouth shut and PREPARE. Then strike first and strike hard.

[The Manipulated ManParticipant 1856]

Greetings R,

Many Thanks for your great Introduction.

ronnyquest wrote:

…….. have finally found MGTOW ………I found it later than I might have liked.

In hind sight, me too.

However, I was too stubborn as a young fool and I ignored any Old Timer who tried to warn me about “Women’s Nature.”

Sadly, I was warned by bonafied MGTOWs as a young man.

ronnyquest wrote:

….there is far more to the story, but I wanted to keep it down to novella size. Hell, I probably ought to write a book about it. It would be a page-turner.

Kindly consider Posting your story in the “Marriage & Divorce” section of the Forums.

Here is a link to a Post intended to help newcomers. You will enjoy the books recommended at the end:

/forums/topic/list-of-unacceptable-blue-pill-baggage/

You and I have used our wits, training, and resources to avoid some fatal legal “bullets.”

But, with all do respect, we were both really lucky. Better men have tried to make their own luck and failed.

The evil forces aligned against men are overwhelming. It is one of the reasons men are just going our own way.

The following link is a Post about the final words of Thomas Ball who wrote the best description of these evil forces:

/forums/topic/thomas-ball-died-for-your-sins-too/

Here is an attempt to discuss the problems associated with working along with women. The last reply was from a Green Beret who explains what is happening to our Special Forces. Your feedback there is appreciated:

Women in the Trades & Blue Collar Jobs

What happens when a man finally comprehends the cold and calculating thoughts that are going through a woman's mind, while her eyes are brimming with tears?

[JB BooksParticipant 3182]

Welcome ronnyquest! Another satisfied MGHOW…

We just don't realize life's most significant events while they're happening. Back then, I thought, "Well, there'll be other days". I didn't realize that that was the only day. - "Moonlight" Graham

[Remove me!Participant]

Welcome, Ronny. A man getting child support. Good for you, brother.

Like a bird on the wire, like a drunk midnight choir, I have tried in my way to be free.

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